Taser used on Newton woman at an Apple Store in Nashua. There is, of course, an Apple Store right in Newton, where, however, they add the Mass. sales tax to your bill.
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Completely unnecessary
By jp_guy
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 9:44am
The officers did not need to use the Taser to control or arrest the individual. Using Tasers this way is non-judicial punishment, which is or should be illegal.
I assume, or hope, there is
By Bearwalker
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 10:13am
I assume, or hope, there is more to this story and is why the taser was used.
There are many dimensions to the story
By jp_guy
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:17am
Which ones did you have in mind?
as with most tazing incidents
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:18pm
as with most tazing incidents its because of white people over reacting
Always
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:51pm
With the white guilt on UHub
the point still stands, much
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 3:01pm
the point still stands, much to your chagrin
Right?
By Will LaTulippe
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 3:09pm
She's an (expletive) Chinese lady! She can't be bigger than, what, a buck twenty? No competent police officer should require anything more than a bear hug to control her at her wildest.
Might as well just turn in your badge and disappear for that stunt.
It would not shock me in the
By Anon Daughter o...
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 3:54pm
It would not shock me in the least if it later was found out that the woman bit the officer or something similar.
If I were the PR person for
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 4:06pm
If I were the PR person for the police, I'd sure as heck include a detail like that in any press reports.
That's
By John
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 6:30pm
Waycist
Yup
By vne
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 6:49pm
According to the nashua patch:
If she'd been kicking and punching, ok, but "twisting on the ground holding her other arm underneath her" really doesn't seem taser-worthy.
If you resist arrest you will
By anon
Fri, 12/14/2012 - 5:40am
If you resist arrest you will be tazed. Would you rather be hit with a billy club or have your arm broken?
Pretending to not understand = passive aggressive to the extreme
By Anon Daughter o...
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 9:45am
Disclaimer: I want to say that what I am describing *may* not actually have happened. This is my own interpretation of what happened *if* the lady in the video was a member of my family.
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I'm so deeply embarrassed to admit this about my own family. However, it is important for other people to know that this is likely a manipulation game in the extreme.
I'm the first generation born in the US. My mom (and many of my family members) pretends not to understand what people are saying as a manipulation tactic to get what she wants. She especially takes advantage of the fact that if someone says that she has been there previously, she can (and has done many many times) claim cultural insensitivity by accusing the shopkeeper that she thinks everyone of that national origin looks the same.
Mom (who also grew up in a communist country) knows VERY well that you should NOT mess with the police or resist arrest.... except that over here it gets you public sympathy.
I feel so bad for the daughter who has been put into the role of interpreter, real or not.
Have to agree
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:02am
I used to work at a community center in Chinatown, and I often had to correct people who were breaking the facility's rules. Many of the facility's rules were safety-oriented, and so people who broke the rules were endangering their or their child's life in doing so. These were serious rules set with injury prevention in mind.
Frequently, I would go tell people to stop doing something, and of course, they'd pretend to not speak English and continue to do not follow my orders. Then, I'd see them speaking English to someone else, clearly!
It was really frustrating, especially since I would have been the one responsible for not "enforcing the rules" when they were injured. I did not speak Chinese myself, and was at a complete loss.
Eventually, smartphones saturated the market, and one of my coworkers started using online translators, which sort of helped.
Exactly
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:56am
She was language savvy enough to know that there's no sales tax in NH.
Entitlement
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 5:56pm
Not that I am necessarily condoning the seemingly excessive use of force here, but I saw the woman and her daughter interviewed on Tv, and the women did seem to have a sense of entitlement.
I was picturing an adult daughter
By adamg
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 3:00pm
But she's in middle school, according to the Nashua Telegraph's account.
That woman deserved it.
By Anon Son of a W...
Fri, 12/28/2012 - 7:32pm
I am Chinese. I live in America. That woman deserved it. Its very common in China that men and women brawl with store staff over store rules or prices. They have no respect for rules. I grew up with those scenes. That woman thought she can do the same here. If you believe that being tased would teach her a lesson, think again. All it gave her was a story she can tell over and over to family and friends until the day she dies. This won't phase her. If and when that Apple store ever goes out of business, I can guarantee you she will BRAG that SHE was the one who brought them down. My own mother certainly would... and she's WAY WORSE than this lady.
The taser use is overkill
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 11:45am
That said, from my life experiences, I wouldn't have a hard time believing the woman was behaving obnoxious and aggressive. The I don't speak or understand English is in my experience generally BS. If it's true, she needs to have someone with her to interpret. You can't expect to have most people in the U.S. [and English speaking country] to understand Cantonese, Vietnamese, Russian, Creole, etc., etc., We as a society bend over backwards and are sensitive to new immigrants and others who are not proficient in English, more so than most of the countries in the world and their defacto native language. How does anyone think a woman in China who did a similar thing except she couldn't speak or understand Chinese or the local dialect would be treated?
I think we're talking about two separate issues
By jp_guy
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 12:42pm
As a general response to all of the posts on this topic, I think it's helpful to separate:
- Issue 1: Woman's actions leading up to her arrest.
- Issue 2: Police officers' and woman's behavior during arrest.
My only point about Issue 2 is that he police had her overpowered. They could have completed the arrest without using the Taser. The Taser may have helped them complete the arrest, if she was struggling, but it wasn't *required*.
In many arrests, police officer/officers use a Taser and other non-lethal force to gain control of an individual. Unfortunately, being human, they sometimes give in to anger/adrenaline/fight-or-flight behavior and misapply these tools to *punish* the individual. This is particularly true when the individual has been subdued after a difficult/dangerous chase or struggle.
Live free or die!
By Cliff
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 1:00pm
Live free or die!
Not to make light of the
By biblioteqtressNLI
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 1:26pm
Not to make light of the experiences everyone relates above, but I wish the world were so simple that one nationality/color/gender etc etc had the monopoly on assholes. Then we would know that everyone not of Group X is okay.
My very sweet, extremely charming, absolutely wonderful mother had a southern accent so thick you could spread it on toast. I watched her talk her way out of a ticket for driving the wrong way down a one way street in NYC (knowingly and after a few glasses of wine) by playing the Dumb Belle. She talked her way to the front of lines ("Oh, I'm so sorry! It starts back theah?"). She talked her way into a restaurant five minutes after their closing time, with 5 kids. She was shameless and a smart cookie. And she was born in the US. We breed'em here as well.
biblioteqtressNLI
By anon
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 6:00pm
Wait, she drove drunk the wrong way down the street in NYC, could have injured or killed someone, and you think it amusing she talked herself out of a ticket? That's pathetic. I'm not impressed with your drunk driving mom's so called Southern charm or accent. I would NEVER let one of my parents, friends or co-workers get behind the wheel after a few glasses of wine. Smarten up, please!
Description doesn't condone this
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 12/13/2012 - 11:28am
Please reread.
It would seem to me that she is using her mother as an example of how every culture has its assholes, her mother included.
But, Miki, thanks for sharing.
Are you outing an anonymous user?
By jp_guy
Thu, 12/13/2012 - 1:11pm
Is Miki the name of the anonymous poster you replied to. If so, how do you know who it is and why are you posting their name?
It's a looooong story
By adamg
Thu, 12/13/2012 - 1:12pm
No actual anonymous users were harmed in the making of this in-joke, which involves somebody who used to post under her own name here and then blew up and asked that I delete her account but who has a somewhat distinctive writing style.
Thanks for explaining.
By jp_guy
Fri, 12/14/2012 - 11:53am
I appreciate how you curate both content and comments on UH.
Several of the New York City cops that I know
By issacg
Wed, 12/12/2012 - 6:52pm
would have been more inclined to lock her up for DWI with that accent. She must have been sweet indeed.