The North End Regional Review shows us the proposed replacement for the old bridge between the North End and Charlestown. The city hopes to begin replacement in 2016.
Well , seeing that it is an oo la la more than your average erector set type bridge , they won't have any money left over in the broken bridge fund. I think Long Island is going to go back to being an island.
Have all the industrial parcels already been turned into high-rise condo complexes and people in the projects left with only bistros, Whole Foods, and Starbucks to eat up what little money they have?
Go bike or walk around the area. Or take the regular ferry service back and forth from downtown.
Also? You can walk into the same areas using the dam. Faster than taking the bridge, even.
These are the main ways that people already commute to the area. Redoing this bridge doesn't make much difference over what is there now. It will just make it more pleasant and safer for all users.
The C+ student in the third row with the chip on their shoulder about how you weren't as smart as everyone else and realized at a young age that you would have to act tough to cover up your lack of confidence in matters of thinking.
Yet even I know how gentrified Charlestown is. To wit, did you notice the protests when Johnny's Foodmaster became a Whole Foods? Neither did I.
The fact that Mark and you don't realize that the Charlestown of today is very different from the Charlestown of the 1970s is the amazing part. Dennis Leary even did a movie about this. It came out in 1998.
Yes, its gentrified. I watched it increase while living in the newish Charlestown Navy Yard and saw broken car windows and missing radios nearly every morning. Since then, Sullivan Square has gotten more inhabited by tech companies. Yet, there is more to go with waterfront opportunities along Medford Street and housing projects to tear down. Until all the poor people are evicted, Charlestown won't be fully gentrified, and that's not happened yet.
The projects are outliers, just like how Detroit has fancy parts, but is still a broken down rust belt city. It's the median, and for Charlestown, it ain't a Townie teamster anymore.
The now-closed-off middle lanes of the bridge had the elevated Orange Line tracks above them until 1975.
The other lanes longer ago carried trolley tracks in addition to motor traffic. What are now the 92, 93, and (I think) 111 bus routes used these tracks. These fed into the old Canal Street Green Line portal.
Also , it was part of the original 93 , unofficially anyway. 93 South used to end in Medford and the ramp dumped you off on Mystic ave, just past where the Mystic Valley pkwy. hits it. Then you had to weasel and diesel to the old Rutheford ave to City Square, go over little bridge , take a right on Causeway st, and just past the S & S bakery, take a left onto Expressway to complete the trip south. The little bridge got a lot of use.
The naming of the new bridge might take a generation. Can we just settle it now and call it the Charlestown / Tudor Wharf / Lt. Steven Minhean / Paul Revere / Orange Line Memorial / Freedomlibertyconstitution / Hon. Thomas Menino / Fallen Cops / Even more Freedomlibertyconstitution Bridge?
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So, It'll Be Completed Before The Bridge To Long Island?
Well , seeing that it is an
Well , seeing that it is an oo la la more than your average erector set type bridge , they won't have any money left over in the broken bridge fund. I think Long Island is going to go back to being an island.
My first thought too
But this bridge will serve many more people every day than a Long Island bridge, plus support more gentrification and condoization of Charlestown.
Who knows, architects might have designed new vaults under the bridge too as improved housing for the homeless.
What planet?
Or maybe what city do you live in?
Oh, wait - I get it. You never get out of your goddamn car.
Did I miss something?
Have all the industrial parcels already been turned into high-rise condo complexes and people in the projects left with only bistros, Whole Foods, and Starbucks to eat up what little money they have?
Yes
Go bike or walk around the area. Or take the regular ferry service back and forth from downtown.
Also? You can walk into the same areas using the dam. Faster than taking the bridge, even.
These are the main ways that people already commute to the area. Redoing this bridge doesn't make much difference over what is there now. It will just make it more pleasant and safer for all users.
Serious question
is there anything you don't know?
I remember you Anon
The C+ student in the third row with the chip on their shoulder about how you weren't as smart as everyone else and realized at a young age that you would have to act tough to cover up your lack of confidence in matters of thinking.
I'm never in Charlestown
Yet even I know how gentrified Charlestown is. To wit, did you notice the protests when Johnny's Foodmaster became a Whole Foods? Neither did I.
The fact that Mark and you don't realize that the Charlestown of today is very different from the Charlestown of the 1970s is the amazing part. Dennis Leary even did a movie about this. It came out in 1998.
Mark,
Mark,
All of that happened a few years ago. You are waaaaaaaaaay late to the party with that comment.
Still Charlestown project rats to chase out
Yes, its gentrified. I watched it increase while living in the newish Charlestown Navy Yard and saw broken car windows and missing radios nearly every morning. Since then, Sullivan Square has gotten more inhabited by tech companies. Yet, there is more to go with waterfront opportunities along Medford Street and housing projects to tear down. Until all the poor people are evicted, Charlestown won't be fully gentrified, and that's not happened yet.
So
The South End is not yet gentrified?
The projects are outliers, just like how Detroit has fancy parts, but is still a broken down rust belt city. It's the median, and for Charlestown, it ain't a Townie teamster anymore.
Word in the hood is that the
Word in the hood is that the CNC is looking to name it after a member of the CNC.
BERy
One of the last remnants of the Charlestown El...
So originally a trolley bridge?
Cool.
Trolleys AND elevated rail AND cars/carriages etc.
The now-closed-off middle lanes of the bridge had the elevated Orange Line tracks above them until 1975.
The other lanes longer ago carried trolley tracks in addition to motor traffic. What are now the 92, 93, and (I think) 111 bus routes used these tracks. These fed into the old Canal Street Green Line portal.
Also , it was part of the
Also , it was part of the original 93 , unofficially anyway. 93 South used to end in Medford and the ramp dumped you off on Mystic ave, just past where the Mystic Valley pkwy. hits it. Then you had to weasel and diesel to the old Rutheford ave to City Square, go over little bridge , take a right on Causeway st, and just past the S & S bakery, take a left onto Expressway to complete the trip south. The little bridge got a lot of use.
Get Ready For War
The naming of the new bridge might take a generation. Can we just settle it now and call it the Charlestown / Tudor Wharf / Lt. Steven Minhean / Paul Revere / Orange Line Memorial / Freedomlibertyconstitution / Hon. Thomas Menino / Fallen Cops / Even more Freedomlibertyconstitution Bridge?
Guess the little bridge is
Guess the little bridge is out....
Or we could do the sensible
thing and pass a law abolishing the naming of public infrastructure forever.
abolish all naming?
That would make navigating around Boston even more confusing that it is already.
(Supposedly, Japan has no street names or addresses. How does that work, anyway?)
Japan does have street names....
... but addresses operate on a totally different principle from those here -- something like a block-based and neighborhood-based address:
http://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/addresses.html
Fixing/replacing it would
Fixing/replacing it would take a lot of money.
Couldn't we just ignore it for a while longer then evacuate Charlestown?