Officials to discuss plans to use shuttered Roxbury hospital for residential programs displaced from Long Island
By adamg on Wed, 12/03/2014 - 1:27pm
City officials will meet with residents tomorrow evening to discuss their plans for the Radius Specialty Hospital on Townsend Street.
The Bay State Banner reported last week the Boston Public Health Commission is thinking of using the facility for 265 beds in "closed campus" programs - participants would be bused in and out and would not be allowed to leave the Radius campus during their stays.
The programs would be housed there for the three to five years the city estimates it will take to repair the bridge to Long Island.
The meeting begins at 6 p.m. at the Trotter School, 135 Humboldt Ave.
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Makes sense to me
But then I don't live next door to the shuttered hospital.
It seems like the right thing
It seems like the right thing to do. I ride my bike past it every night and I don't imagine a "closed campus" homeless shelter would be much worse than an empty building if they are able to provide the security.
That is a dense neighborhood, with Academy Homes II right next door.
Exactly
I do live right around the corner from here, and I don't have a problem with it---as long as there is really security making sure that whoever needs to be there in "closed campus" programs actually stays there and doesn't wander to my house or street in the middle of the night while I'm taking my dogs for a late-night walk.
Location considerations
It is hard. People are in need of a shelter, but you don't see this being propsed in affluent neighborhoods of Boston. Security should be addressed in a realistic and dignified way for those living at the proposed shelter and the neighbors. Neighbors which include, by my count, at least 4 Boston Public Schools within .5 miles. BLA, Trotter, Higginson- Lewis and the Rllis.
And does it really take 2-3 years to build a bridge?
Um
wut?
The facility was available ,
The facility was available , what do you want the city to do, seize The Holy Name School in West Roxbury ? Forget about the bridge , that place is going back to be an island.
What, Do You Think There Isn't Sharing?
Beacon Hill has Mass General which goes 24-7. Downtown has the New England Shelter For Homeless Veterans. The South End has the Granddaddy of them all; The Pine Street Inn as well as Rosie's Place (which is in Realtor's, though not true South End). South Boston and the Back Bay both have methadone clinics. Mission Hill / Longwood has sirens all day and all night from the hospitals.
The Bury can take on a little of the burden.
Whatever works! And if this
Whatever works! And if this didn't work there are plenty of abandon buildings throughout the city in everyone's town!
You forgot about the
"necessary" public meetings and "important" environmental studies. Never mind the fact that this is an EXISTING bridge. Not like we're cutting a ten lane highway through a virgin old-growth forest.
Note that Minneapolis completely replaced an Interstate highway bridge (I-35W) in just over one year, largely because they were able to eliminate such BS and actually BUILD it. And the world is still here and happily spinning on its axis.
Priorities
I-35W is a major thru way, without it the entire Minneapolis-St Paul region suffered. It also cost twice as much because of the 24 hour construction.
The long island bridge, a few hundred people (or however many beds there were on that island's facilities) suffered.
Yes it sucks (and sucks for the people served on Long Island)
But sometimes "That's just the way it is"
try making a place in newton !! lol
yea typical place it in a neighborhood that is already in need of help and place homeless people ( that are most likely druggies) where they are just going to over populate ..
That's ridiculous.
Homeless people are not "most likely druggies."
Liberals went wild when a minority school opened in Cambridge
They may talk a good game about helping the homeless, but you'll never relocate the Long Island crowd to an affluent, "progressive" neighborhood. It reminds me of when the 90% minority Commonwealth Day School was run out of Cambridge by the liberals, including several Harvard professors who signed a petition. The liberal mantra remains, "Do as I say, not as I do."
Wow, quite a memory
How is something that happened 24 years ago relevant?
Because in 24 years Cambridge
Because in 24 years Cambridge has yet to invite such a school back!
How do you know this?
There's plenty of non-traditional schools in Cambridge, including Spanish and Mandarin immersion, public Montessori, etc. etc.
While looks like a pretty bad NIMBY battle here, it a random event cherry picked so you can thumb your nose and go "Told ya so".
Yawn
Snore.
I remember that!
The petitioners (including Laurence Tribe, Harvard Law Prof, and Julia Child, TV chef, since revealed to have been CIA) complained about "increased traffic."
I hadn't realized that the City of Cambridge stopped the school's trash collection for six weeks.
First class hypocrites.
Julia Child...
... a clerical worker and researcher for the war-time OSS. Are you trying to smear her memory, Mr. Non-verified Schmuck?
I think they should find
I think they should find other use of that building your going to have all those peoe hanging in front of the shelter during the day those schools have enough issues they don't need all those people hanging around there
Fun Fact about the Radius
Fun Fact about the Radius Hospital ,
1916. Oct 22, BethIsrael Hospital opened at the old Henry C Dennison House at 59 -Townsend Street and Harrishof Street. The first patient was admitted on Feb. 4, 1917. Removed to large new hospital on Brookline Avenue in Sept. 1928. The 42-bed hospital was acquired the next month by the Roxbury Ladies Bikur Cholum Association as a hospital for indigent, incurable and elderly immigrant Jews that began in 1913 as a free dispensary at 105 Chambers Street in the West End. - - 1936 a 3-story addition was completed that included a full operating suite and a kosher kitchen. In 1937 it changed its name to the Jewish Memorial Hospital. A third wing was added in 1947 and in 1988 the Dennison house was razed for a large modern wing specializing in rehabilitation.
http://roxbury.wikia.com/wiki/Roxbury_TImeline_-1910-1950
About time
Someone did something! It's cold outside and they should have put them somewhere before they even closed the bridge! But of course they did not think of the ones who called that place home. I really hope this works and I hope they let them outside as "SOME" Do work! Curfew yes, but to be confined NO NO NO! And don't say they going to destroy the neighborhood because that's bullcrap as THERE ARE HOMELESS, drugs, and Violence everywhere... And if this was something done before hand, I know for a fact Bodio Hutchinson would have never stabbed them rangers because he would have been on the island... Not saying what he did was right but he really wanted to die... There's really nothing to live for in his eyes...... I pray my friend really gets the help he needs as he is not that person. I pray for all of them and hopes this brings life back to them!
Campus or holding pen
First of all how can you legally keep citizens locked up on campus and not allow them to leave. Second if they are going to house level three sex offenders in a neighborhood with schools there will be problems.
Voluntary?
I think these are people who voluntarily enter into residential treatment programs, or people who have been placed in such programs by court order. (I don't know what MA's DUI laws are, but in NH a second DUI results in someone being placed in an involuntary, 7-day live-in treatment program.)
But establishing this building for those programs does nothing for the people who used Long Island only overnight, going back into the city during the day to work. Those people are still going to be living on the streets for now.
Pity
I was kind of hoping that they'd be housed in a storefront in Roslindale, possibly near the Pet Gentlemen's Club, to keep those icky chain stores away.
The "not in my neighborhood"
The "not in my neighborhood" mentality i find myself reading (and re-reading, just to be sure i truly saw it) is absolutely despicable. Where in the world is your sense of humanity? It's not your problem because you're fortunate enough to have the means to put a roof over your head. What happens if you're later diagnosed with mental illness. Or you go and serve your country and return, a shattered shell of your former self. Or the business you've embarked upon and put everything you had into crumbles. Or you lose your health. Perhaps you're elderly and not of sound mental faculties and you have no surviving family after your spouse departs. Or god forbid, you develop an addiction. I don't think anyone truly wants to become an addict. Put yourself into someone else's shoes for once, you might see how easily it could be you. The real travesty is that there are any homeless people in this country, period. Knowing that there are vacant pieces of property that could be repurposed to help people in need but just continue to sit is about as sickening. I hope this works out for these folks. I know it's just a bandaid on a far deeper problem but at least someone is at least acknowledging it.
OK CRD
So why don't you volunteer your street in your neighborhood? No one, whether they're in Roxbury or Back Bay or wherever, wants that kind of facility next door. It's a natural reaction.
Since Boston wins most of the homeless
because of its multitude of programs we should insist the state aid in the housing of those who would have otherwise been on Long Island. The state can develop available leafy property in Weston, Dover, Swampscott, Marblehead or Hamilton.
Shattuck Hospital long range planning and development...
What is there by the way of a) Shattuck Hospital Annual Reports?...
b) annual report types of materials about Shattuck Hospital?...
c) Shattuck Hospital Budget?...
d) budget types of materials about Shattuck Hospital?...
e) Shattuck Hospital Long Range Planing and Development documents.
Documents turned up so far
http://archives.lib.state.ma.us/bitstream/handle/2452/113740/ocn76968830...
http://friendsofthelshgeriatricservices.blogspot.com/