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Cleveland Circle redo will feature trolley/signal synchronization

Proposed Cleveland Circle project

Architect's rendering. Note presence of original CIRCLE sign.

The BRA today approved a revised plan to tear down the old Cleveland Circle Cinema and Applebee's and turn it into a hotel and a 92-unit senior-citizen apartment building.

National Development will kick in $600,000 to redesign the Cleveland Circle intersection, which will include a system to synchronize trolley movement with the lights to speed up dispatching of trolleys.

Some 12 of the apartments would be marketed as affordable, for people making no more than 70% of the area's median income.

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When will the T and Brookline turn on signal priority for the C Line?

And Boston for B & E?

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It's just the E, C afaik with the unactivated signal prompts. B still runs cold. I guess we'll just be happy they've got around to installing GPS.

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Signal priority would only work if the platforms were after the intersections and unfortunately most platforms on Beacon St inbound and outbound are before. They would need to do a complete reconstruction of most of the Beacon St stops and under today's ADA laws any new station would need to be handicap accessible.

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Well the rendering doesn't look great, do you know if there are any more? Cool that they are finally getting developers to kick in for transit upgrades, though. I was really hoping for something with height there, though, and street retail.

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How many plans have been ditched due to intransigent Brookline/Brighton NIMBYs? This spot has been vacant for years... this was the best a developer could do given neighborhood opposition.

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The project was approved June 19, 2014. See item 19 of the minutes: http://boston.siretechnologies.com/sirepubbra/cache/2/rlxg1aqj3pnj1gabki...

Developer decided to sell the approved project. New developer revised the plans. The revised plans were approved today.

If the developer had just built what was already approved, there would be no issue. Don't see how this delay can be blamed on neighbors...

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The neighbors kept screaming about how drunken students would move into the apartments and kept protesting. So the (new) developer shut them up by changing the apartments from drunken-student zoning to seniors only. Or something to that effect.

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senior citizens are way worse at holding their liquor than college kids. Plus the ladies can't get pregnant and all the men are on Viagra. But instead of going out at 11 pm, they go out at 5 pm.

It could get quite rowdy during daylight hours over there!

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Going to be honest, I would way rather the BRA rake these guys over the coals for transit upgrades or funds towards transit expansion than affordability requirements. A working, efficient transit system makes areas on the outer edges of the system more livable. An expanded system opens up new neighborhoods to low income working class who often don't have cars.

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government not be in the business of extorting money or other concesssions from developers to fund what should be PUBLIC improvements in exchange for "mother may I permission" to improve their PRIVATE property.

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There isn't the rigid separation from the private and the public spheres. Even a medium-sized development will have public impacts - altered vehicle traffic patterns, altered public transit patters (i.e. if you build a massive TOD project at the fringe of rapid transit line, you're inducing more people onto an earlier stage of vehicles run and running the risk of overcrowding rippling down to other stops along said route), utilities charges and utility upgrades - it's completely within the bounds of city government and, yes, even quasi-public agencies to charge developers for mitigation fees. How those fees are collected (or in the BRA's case if they're collected) and how they are administered is a question of management, not their theoretical and legal right to collect them.

Public improvements are going to be financed through public means, no amount of public-private partnership nor Federal grant support will obviate the need for taxpayer money, but closing off an avenue to collect transit funds just forces the MBTA and the City to find a new revenue stream which will eventually lead to us. It's all well and good to lambaste the BRA and the City for charging unseemly fees, but it's a messy world and the alternatives are either a) don't collect the fees and don't receive transit improvements, b) don't collect the fees and shift the burden to taxpayers writ-large (most of whom won't ever come into contact with a given development). You can deflect by arguing the BRA needs to run a far tighter ship, but that's a management question and does nothing to solve the underlying lack of funds.

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They're already in the deals-and-extortion business. My point was if they're going to do that -- and it's Boston, it's the BRA, do you really think we'll ever get away from those kind of politics -- Transit development is far preferable to arbitrary demands for 'affordable' units.

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In more advanced countries (or in Boston a century ago), the public sector builds out transit to spur private development. Cleveland Circle and New Balance are an OK consolation prize.

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All new development within spitting distance of MBTA rail connections should be targeted at people who might be commuting to school/work. Anything else is a sub-optimal use of the land and does ZERO to help the city's traffic woes.

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Old folks need to go places too. Would you rather they be driving instead of taking the T?

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