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Scooter driver loses control, crashes in Mattapan

Updated Thursday with info from BPD.

Boston Police report a 26-year-old man was taken to a local hospital with life-threatening injuries after he lost control of his scooter and crashed around 9:40 p.m. outside 236 River St.

Police continue to investigate how he lost control. The man remains in the hospital.

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Very hard to see pedestrians in the dark and rain. So many wearing dark clothes and nearly invisible.

Arlington had a tragic pedestrian death Monday, though it was uncharacteristically at around 11 AM in sunny weather. Arlington Police are oddly protecting the identity of the driver this time, unlike a couple years ago for a night time pedestrian fatality.

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Why?

it was uncharacteristically at around 11 AM in sunny weather.

Which just goes to show that in spite of your constant victim-blaming, we're all dead meat when drivers don't pay attention.

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I'm trying to text my friend and refresh my GPS directions and change the radio station and change the kids' DVD and assemble a fajita and keep one foot on the wheel already, and now I have to worry that someone is walking around without airport-quality reflective gear? What the hell do you pedestrians expect?!?

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They were asking for it wearing that dark clothing.

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How's a guy supposed to know that they *don't* want to get run over, if they walk around dressed like that?

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this week, while he has covered others in the metro area previously. I thought it deserved some mention. Mr. Dotson was a very nice 91 year old man who was cherished in the neighborhood.

In the Arlington fatality, the driver is 60 years old, so asshat assumptions of texting and GPS programming came out from where the sun don't shine.

With the fanciful Vision Zero plan, extreme effort is needed to educate the public to not go walking at night dressed in all dark clothing. Such behavior, in effect, is suicidal, like getting behind the wheel or handlebars while drunk and stepping in front of a train, truck, or bus. Pedestrians are stupid or don't care about their own safety for not wearing appropriate clothing for walking streets. Parents need to teach that as much as "put on your coat" or "put on your hat".

Without education of pedestrians, more will die because they were irresponsible or uneducated about dressing for safety.

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so asshat assumptions ... came out from where the sun don't shine.

Oh, irony.

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And not a funny one, either. The idea that there is a real person behind this account whose driver's license hasn't been and probably never will be taken away from him is legitimately terrifying.

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Just go away!

(but I will note that 60 year olds send texts and use GPS in cars, just like everyone else).

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Mr. Dotson was a very nice 91 year old man who was cherished in the neighborhood.

Contrasts well with...

Pedestrians are stupid

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Most people who "go walking at night" are doing so as a form of transportation from another place. I really doubt you're going to convince the average employer, fancy restaurant, etc., that everyone should walk the world wearing reflective athletic pants and a bright reflective jacket covered in LED lights.

The more "equipment" required for a mode of transportation, the more burdensome it becomes and therefore, people become discouraged from using that mode of transportation. Already people in the US bike and walk at lower rates than Europe, where no special clothing or safety gear is required for biking/walking. Why make it harder?

That said, as a pedestrian, you should try to be mindful of your visibility to others and cross the streets defensively and conservatively. "Right of way" isn't a magical force-field that prevents cars from crashing into you- it just gets you compensation for your hospital bills years after they do.

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Now actually think about that for a nanosecond.

What is more equipment to take with you, a 3,000 lb automobile, a 250 lb. scooter, a 25 lb. bicycle, a 5 lb jacket that has some white on it and/or reflective piping or stripes, or a few ounces of clip on reflective arm or leg bands?

So, you see, walking is actually the easiest transportation in terms of having the least baggage.

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...without a doubt, the biggest asshat on the planet.

I wonder if you'll be this philosophical and inclined to blame the victim if one of your kids gets hit by a car.

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for not teaching the kids how to behave and dress them for safety, or if younger, whomever is responsible for watching them.

Do you blame the victim if he leaves a brand new iPad sitting on passenger seat with the window open on his parked car, and it gets stolen? He lost his property which was taken by a thief. He is the victim, but isn't he also stupid?

I am so tired of idiotic claims that I'm blaming a victim when they are irresponsible. Children are not expected to be so responsible, but people entrusted with watching them are.

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I am so tired of idiotic claims that I'm blaming a victim when they are irresponsible.

You don't have the slightest clue. Go away and shut up.

You blame the victim every single time, whether you know a single fact in the case or not.

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No, I blame the parent for not teaching the kids how to behave and dress them for safety, or if younger, whomever is responsible for watching them.

I see that you don't have kids, and haven't ever had to mind them. In addition, it's possible you may be independently wealthy. I say this because you clearly don't know that:

  1. Children have been known to act contrary to advice.
  2. At a certain age, children develop the ability to dress themselves.
  3. At an even younger age, children develop the ability to undress themselves of anything short of a straitjacket (and definitely including the high-visibility ballistic safety clothing that their perfect parents dressed them in).
  4. Unless you're independently wealthy or completely neurotic, it is inevitable that your child will at some point interact with traffic without your perfect supervision. This may happen when they get off the schoolbus, when they're crossing the street on their way to school, or when they defeat your perfect ubercontrol and dash from your side out into the street.

There's one additional fact that you are clearly and painfully ignorant of: that human beings make mistakes, and that a certain amount of mistake-making is not "stupid". You are not perfect, Markkk. You have made mistakes -- you make them daily. Not every mistake is "stupid" or means that you are "stupid". It may be that you, in addition to being judgmental, narrow-minded and tactless, are also a neurotically cautious and unadventurous individual, never making the least move unless you're certain of exactly what will happen. If so, guess what? You still make mistakes -- probably fewer than the rest of us, but there's a big downside, too. I've probably got soaked in more rainstorms because I made the "mistake" of going hiking in uncertain weather, but I'm sure I've also seen more awesome views from the ridgeline.

I hope you decide to give up this ridiculous mindset some day. I really do. As long as you've got breath in your body, you can choose what kind of person you want to be.

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So, I hope that they give their clothing purchase choices even a fraction of the thought that they give to kids food purchases, stroller choices, car seat choices and on and on.

Its easy to know (but not find) safer clothing for kids. Light colors at night, bright colors for day, and hopefully some amount of reflective material accents on the outerwear. Thankfully, sneaker designers are much smarter than outerwear designers by offering a large number of models incorporating reflective accents. Kids backpacks and strollers are gaining in reflective trim use. Consumers need to demand the same in outerwear for the safety of their children, their pets, and themselves.

I hope its not long before people resisting safer clothing will be looked down upon as smokers have gotten to be.

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Universal Hub Pro-Tip: to reduce the number of accusations of victim-blaming made against you, try not blaming victims so often.

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Don't engage Markk and maybe he will go away.

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... not a chance.

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That works as well as not engaging the crazy guy who sits down next to you on the bus.

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when they get cancer, emphysema, or COPD?

Don't you and doctors blame the victim then?

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90% of our country, pretty much everything west of Chicago except for places like Boulder, Portland or Seattle, are mostly drivers of huge SUVs with few pedestrians or bicyclists. You would be very happy there. My only solace is knowing that Arlington is removing driving lanes for bike lanes on Mass Ave soon, which will no doubt destroy your will to live.

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My only solace is knowing that Arlington is removing driving lanes for bike lanes on Mass Ave soon, which will no doubt destroy your will to live.

I fear that his superhuman will to whine will outlive us all.

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I circulated a petition 20 years ago when I lived in Arlington. We were told that they didn't stripe the lanes properly because there were no lanes to stripe - Mass Ave was only one lane each way because the width of the roadway did not qualify for two lanes each way plus parking lanes.

Mark's short lived political career is premised on a false assumption.

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You are too impaired to drive safely. Stop blaming others for your inability to not kill people with your car. Their rights come ahead of your privilege.

If you can't drive without killing people, turn in your license and take the bus. Where you live you don't need a car anyway.

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If you're having a hard time seeing where you're going it is your obligation to slow down.

This is from the driver's manual:
You must never travel so fast that it is not safe. That is the fundamental speed law
You must lower your speed if there are poor driving conditions or hazards. It does not matter if the posted speed limit is higher. All speed limits are based on ideal driving conditions. If conditions are hazardous, you must drive slower.

But who am I kidding, your tiny little brain is to full of irrational fear of change to comprehend the above.

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Yesterday a student biking to school was hit by a car in a town near me. Driver didn't see him. Rather than shooting their mouths off about how the cyclist was probably doing something wrong, the police investigated and concluded: cyclist was operating properly and obeying all laws, driver's vision was impaired by sun glare and an improperly cleared windshield. The cops have no problem placing this one on the driver -- what do they know that Markkk doesn't know?

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This investigation and conclusion, happening so quickly... this all happened in the United States? Where is this magical town?! A place where the police are so diligent and impartial?

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Just talked to BPD. It was a guy on a scooter who lost control.

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why we're even talking about cars and pedestrians. I'm just curious whether it's a scooter like a Vespa or if "scooter" is the new catchall term for those loathesome minibikes.

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Any word on his condition?

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