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By adamg on Mon, 03/26/2018 - 10:17am
Craig Fitzgerald forwards this photo of a rack at a Hudson News stand at Logan Airport with 17 gun magazines for sale:
If I said the word "gun" in the security line at @BostonLogan I'd be strip-searched by the @TSA yet I can buy 17 gun porn titles at @Hudson_News.
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And right next to the rack
And right next to the rack with the gun magazines is the one with all the car magazines. Lets draw a comparison between all the homicide victims killed by guns and everyone killed in car accidents. Don't forget to include all the pollution cars spew when you come to your conclusion.
Ohh, you're at the airport. How much pollution is your flight going to generate?
Comparing guns and cars?
Comparing guns and cars?
One is designed to kill.
One is designed for transportation.
How do you compare the two?
As always, 99.9% of the time
As always, 99.9% of the time cars are doing beneficial things beyond murdering people
^ The most UHub comment ever:
"Cars are worse than guns!"
Ohhh yeah
I forgot the logical argument that getting rid of guns would have a similar social/economic impact to getting rid of cars and planes.
Weapons-grade Whataboutism.
Weapons-grade Whataboutism.
By that logic
We should arm all school teachers with cars so that we can protect our children from school shootings and other violence. Genius!
That's not a very good
That's not a very good argument for gun nuts to take. We regulate cars, require you to have a license, etc.
Gun porn; sexy gun photos, Florida House of Reps priorities
Credit for some progress
March 8:
...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/us/florida-governor-gun-limits.html
First major gun legislation in Florida in over 20 years
Passed with bipartisan support and bipartisan opposition. 8 years ago after Trayvon Martin was killed by George Zimmerman on February 26, 2012, activists pushed Gov Scott and the Republican legislature to make changes to gun laws then, they did not.
Credit the students of Marjory Stoneham Douglas High School. By the way those students (who call themselves Never Again MSD) were not satisfied with the law.
The new law;
The law does not;
The NRA is challenging the age requirement to buy a gun in court.
NY Times:
"Laboratory for the NRA"
Dichotomy
Suicide plane hijackings have gone down 400 percent since TSA agents started strip searching people who say certain words.
Maybe if you get everyone to give up guns then TSA agents will stop strip searching people.
Seriously.. that magazine rack is as inspiring as the flag of the United States of America.
Math Question
How does something decline by 400%?
Don't expect numbers to be a
Don't expect numbers to be a strength for conservatives. Many of them think they world is 3000 years old and that if you give all the money to rich people it will "trickle down" to the middle class, after all.
Truth be told
When it came down to justifying abusing rights, the only way I could make it seem halfway palatable was to torture some numbers. I guess I should retract. My apologies.
But back to the nut... Government trampling speech rights by punitive strip search is not okay by leftists but government trampling rights by infringing on the right to bear arms is begged for by leftists?
For the record I do not like either.
Russian perspective
In post-9/11 America, plane hijack YOU !!
Easy!
Say you're sitting on a park bench and watching people go in and out of a house across the street.
One person goes in, five people come out. The occupancy of the house dropped 400%.
If four more people go in, the house will be empty.
Wait. Are we talking about
Wait. Are we talking about the TARDIS now?
1st Amendment is a beautiful
1st Amendment is a beautiful thing. Do you really want to start censoring magazines? What's next banning fashion and girly magazines because they promote body stereotypes? Banning food magazines for encouraging obesity? This political WARONEVERYTHING!!!11 is tiresome and no different than busy body ChurchLady spinsters telling all the other neverdoers how to live.
I hate to break it to you
...but the "free market" censors all the time, and the presence of regulations in other places (sometimes other countries) constrains what is available to you.
Freedom of the Press
And to others these mags are not "gun porn". Good job, Mr. Fitzgerald, at keeping the divides that bind us.
You keep using that phrase, "freedom of the press". I
do not think it means what you think it means.
Where did you get the idea that Fitzgerald was calling for government censorship of gun-porn magazines?
And where
did you get the idea that I am inferring that Mr. Fitzgerald was "calling for government censorship of gun-porn magazines?"
Hokey, what I am inferring is thus. First, he appears to be contrasting the number of "gun porn" magazines at an airport to his inability to say "gun" at a TSA checkout without facing repercussions (which is bizarre in itself). Second, I am more peeved that he call said gun magazines "gun porn" pointing out that many others in this country may not consider the magazines "gun porn" and painting gun magazines as such is not wise (if we want to break down the divides between us to solve our current gun issues).
I thought my point was obvious. You referred to
freedom of the press, which is the right of the press to be unhindered by government interference or censorship. It has zero do do with the right of citizens to criticize the press.
Get it now?
Correct.
But, again, we are like ships passing in the night.
Again, I say, Mr. Fitzgerald was apparently upset(?), that he was looking at 17 gun magazines at an airport and equating that with his inability to say "gun" in a TSA check point. My point in saying "Freedom of the Press" means that the gun magazine publishers have every right to publish these types of magazines and that Hudson news has every right to sell them whether he is looking at 7, 17 or 50 magazines of like caliber in a rack at an airport. So his point is lost.
And since you are a constitutional scholar, you should also know that the main point of this Freedom is the principle behind it all, that magazine publishers, by way of the example, have the right to publish freely. That is the point I was focusing on with the implication that the government will not interfere, as you correctly point out.
Ugh, just give up: you're misusing the phrase, in the
same way that many numbnuts scream "free speeech!" in a way that obviously misses the key concept: it's about being free from *the government* censoring citizens' free expression.
You don't need to be a Constitutional scholar to grasp this distinction, but a passing grade in high-school civics probably helps.
Ugh, ok
MC.
I can't help you either.
I get it
You just want everyone to be non-confrontational, agree with you, and engage in passive agressive NOT ME TOOism.
Enjoy your continued workplace fondlings, dear.
I'm pretty sure its the
I'm pretty sure its the paranoid and homicidal gun owners that are dividing us, not a tweet. Every other first world country has common sense gun laws. Republicans who have whored themselves out to gun manufacturers are the ones who have divided us and gotten rich of the blood of innocents.
And good luck with that.
Look. I have a family member who has an arsenal in his basement. He loves his guns and he is responsible. His guns are locked and safe. He is not a paranoid and/or homicidal gun owner. If you continue to paint with such a broad brush, we will remain divided. That is #1
We are not like other countries in regards to age and our histories. That is #2
Yes, many in the GOP have done as you have said. But it is not the GOP, in total, that is dividing us. We are dividing ourselves. It is the people that have voted for the GOP. And how to reach the folks that voted those folks in? By not referring to them in a pejorative manner.
You don't reach them by becoming the republicans you love
You don't reach them with anti-feminist passive aggressive posts to message boards, either
You wait for them to die in a steep curve built from their demographics, cigarette addictions, booze use, and lack of health care while getting far more sensible youngsters to vote.
Flattery never gets you anywhere
Orwellian nonsense like following up a "March for our lives" with unconcealed glee at the prospect of people you disagree with dying doesn't really work either.
There's a reason young people always vote overwhelmingly left and are always frustrated at their elders' voting overwhelmingly right. People change as they age. Churchill might've had a pithy line about that at some point.
Let's look at the numbers
https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/06/us/baby-boomer-generation-fast-facts/inde...
Irrespective of political leanings, Millenials are 1/4 of the current population, and passed boomers in sheer numbers as of 2014.
Millenials are all able to vote now (even by the "up to 2000" definition), and baby boomer numbers are dwindling due to mortality coincident with advancing age (the youngest are in their mid 50s).
"People getting more conservative with age" may be a truism, but it is an irrelevant one when an aging and formerly dominant generation is waning and losing traction, giving way to another very large ascendant demographic bump.
Why not boycott Hudson News
If you don't like their editorial / financial decisions, don't shop there.
Bring in whatever you need before you go through security, or find another purveyor of post-security libations or foodstuffs
Magazines for small
Magazines for small inadequate men who need to feel big in their own minds.
Kindly refer to my earlier post to Kinopio.
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Hunh?
This is related to the Amendment that is right before the Second Amendment.
The First
protects the Second.
Reminds me
of the NRA talking point that the second amendment protects the first amendment. That is false, here's an example. Mary Beth Tinker did not pull a gun out and threaten the principal of her school with it to insure her freedom of expression. She worked with the ACLU through the courts to have her free speech rights adjudicated. The Supreme Court found in her favor.
It's also a good example of how Supreme Court decisions define our laws -- constitutional and statutory -- around the edges.
The corporation gets their way
And your personal freedoms are encroached upon? I mean, you're not shocked by this in 2018, right?
No and huh?
n/t
And what's astonishing is the
And what's astonishing is the gun industry (including these magazines) is probably raking in more f'n money now than they ever did before. Disgusting. Fighting the NRA is like fighting the IRS.
No, what's astonishing is
No, what's astonishing is that people still buy magazines at newstands.
to
kill time on flights when they forgot to pack reading material.
That's funny
One of the big gun manufacturers just declared bankruptcy. This morning.
Not just moral bankruptcy, either.
Check out Cal's News in Lynn
Cal's is an old school newstand with all kinds of magazines, some arty, some obscure, and yes - gun magazines, too. Most of its business is lottery, of course...
Ah yes—“good guys with guns”
And lottery ticket purchasers...both fantasy-driven dreamers who imagine that spending $20 on lottery tickets is going to make them rich and keeping an AR-15 in their bedroom is going to keep their kids safe...
Not worth getting mad, Sally.
Not worth getting mad, Sally. It's still not going to change the way they think and act.
Ski porn, car porn, mountain biking porn... Common slang.
It's a pretty common phrase for enthusiast ideos, magazines, etc
Here are 2 links I found quickly for ski porn and car porn.
Also think surfing, scuba diving, mountain biking, boating, and probably a million other things.
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ski%20porn
https://youtu.be/hTPMLLn9mdM
All that said, it's worth thinking about how many people must like this stuff (gun magazines) if they devote so much shelf space to it.
Let them have their Gun PR0N
Great means of amusement and great way to keep tabs/identify those who might need extra security procedures.
I flew shortly after 9/11 and the guy with the NRA jacket in line ahead of me got searched five times by NH National Guard soldiers before he made it to the plane.
Someone is
Triggered!
Very good!
nice work!
"Your rights end where MY
"Your rights end where MY feelings begin."
Who says print id dead?
STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON!