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In case you missed the opening ceremonies or just want to relive 5,000 years of Chinese history

Lance and friends provide the live blow-by-blow here and here, complete with incisive commentary on all the Channel 7 ads and stuff:

If there is one guy who should have got a whoopin' when he was in school, it's Matt Lorch.

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I think my perspective on the ceremonies is a little different. I watched them broadcast live, no commercials, on a big projection screen in a room full of predominently Chinese students.

It was quite moving actually to hear and see everyone cheering and clapping during the pagentry, and the national anthem sounds different when the people around you are singing it with pride.

During the parade of nations, people would woop for their home country, and the whole room would join in.

And I'm pretty sure they didn't translate the speaches quite exactly or maybe with proper nuance into English, as the Chinese students burst out laughing at one point, and the translation was just of the blah blah blah i'm making a speach variety.

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Oh and here comes the teams representing Chinas best friends Burma, Sudan, North Korea they are all here for the party of the century being hosted by big brother itself, China. Unfortunatly Taiwan, Tibet and XinJiang all "overslept"* and couldnt make it. In related news Hong Kong wasnt in attendance because it is working over the weekend to help pay for everything.

*Overslept can be a stand in for deported, arrested, bombed, killed, maimed, threatened.

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Taiwan is called Chinese Taipei for the games and was in the parade of nations as its own entity. Hong Kong also had its own spot in the parade separate from China.

You do your complaint no credit when you don't speak the truth.

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if so, then how can you offer commentary about them?
If you're ignoring the games, do so...but also ignore disussions & comments by people who are enjoying them.

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I am boycotting watching them, not talking about them. Feel free to boycott my boycotting , I dont mind. I do plan on making a passing comment anytime I see a mention of the games. Im sorry if my reaction to the death and suppresion of millions of people is inconvenient to you.

As for the other comment I apologize , I wasnt watching so I didnt see them come out. I was trying to make another point and tripped over my feet. My overall tone still stands.

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just turn into "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah", so doesn't make your point.

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It is inconvenient to you so you chose to ignore it. Not only do you ignore it you go about and poke superficial holes in any arguments or commentary people make so you can feel better about it yourself.

Just because an argument doesnt follow all the rules of socrocratic logic doesnt make it wrong.

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huh?

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I think that's referring to the mentioning the inaccuracies of the criticism. I'm guessing the point was sarcasm, but since the sarcasm was based on inaccuracies there was no point to be made.

I don't know, personally I'm of the opinion that China, with all the disturbing practices of its government, is being made a very convienient scapegoat, allowing us to ignore for a while the governments of other countries, including our own, which also have some very disturbing practices.

Anyone heard lately about how Myanmar is doing?

Is there a movement to boycot watching any sport Russia is competing in?

Are the Olympics as a whole being boycotted, period, from now on, since the money that is spent by countries not only on hosting, but on athlete training especially in countries with state sponsored training, could be used for much better purposes?

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I said that since he's stated that he's boycotting watching the games, how can he offer commentary on them?

must've been inconvenient to reply to the correct post.

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I havent watched them, or turned any NBC affiliate on since a week before the games. I AM reading about the fringe issues around the games, specificly through non NBC affiliates.

If it wasnt obvious earlier my "running commentary" (which the exact facts were off by a bit) was supposed to be satire and not a real analysis of what was happening before me on the screen. While Im at it I should metion that I dont know if Sudan, North Korea and Burma all came out at the same time, but Id venture to say they probaly didnt, I apologize if that wasnt true.

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Good questions lynn, and a much more interesting read then the spat between sheenaspleena and

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I really do believe the games are a good thing, and that most countries dont spend a disproportionate amount of their GDP on the games so that doesnt concern me so much. Its really their choice how they spend their money. My problem doesnt stem from China being IN the games rather it is their HOSTING of the games. Its been used as a propaganda tool for the Chinese government, and rather than making things better it has in some ways made things worse. There has been a massive crackdown to keep order going into the games, people have been forced to drasticly change their lives to cut down on the smog so people from out of town do not need to deal with pollution. Reducing pollution is a good thing, but keep in mind that 5 minutes after the last spectator leaves they will allow the factories to reopen and the cars to hit the road.

My problems with the Chinese government started when I encountered a Tibetan Monk , in a writing class of all places, and I started talking to him. Ive never waved the flags with them in Harvard Square, and Im not Richard Gere, I havent converted to their religion or given them any money. It just made me think, for myself, about what we are willing to put up with in order to lead our comfortable lives. Anyone who reads my posts knows Im a conservative, follow the rules, 9-5 , white guy, so its not like Im a hippy or anything.

As for the Russians and our own recent transgressions I have to partially agree with you. What Russia is doing all around its borders seems insane and is not fully justified. My boycott doesnt extend to them because they are not hosting the games, just participating, its as simple as that. In addition the Russians dont care if I hate them, the Chinese government actually does care what we think of them, otherwise they wouldnt be doing the Olympics. Also I get the impression that this Russia/Georgia thing comes down to controlling territory where oil and other natural resources travelthrough, which in turn could mean this is and has always been about controlling resources. I dont condone what the Russians are doing but at least I can make some sense out of it, its a simple power grab, kind of like Saddam and Kuwait in the early 90's. I dont believe Tibet is sitting on field of coal or resovoir of oil or has anything that the Chinese really want control of , other than the people. Once again killing people to get something doesnt make it right, it just makes it more logical.

As for the U.S. and our recent wars , I voted for Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2008. I have effectivly been boycotting the Republicans since 1999 when Bush took the primary (I had voted for McCain in that primary, in retrospect it would have been just as bad, so one mistake!) I took action against those who I feel started out war in Iraq. China doesnt have a two party system for me to choose from, so if I hate the decision there is no other group for me to fall back on like you can in a real democracy. The party is the state , the state is the party, no seperation. At least in the US if you truely disagree with the Iraq war you can pick people who will end it, apparently we have chosen not to do that over the past several years, but at least we had a choice.

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I gotta say, I'm not an Olympics person, but that was a pretty f'ing cool show. I think this is the only opening ceremony I've witnessed, so can't compare it to other ones, but as we were watching it, we all thought "this must be what it's like to be on acid."

Until the parade of nations. That just gets old really fast.

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I thought it was pretty amazing too. They had a brief story about the Chinese filmmaker who put the whole thing together this afternoon which I enjoyed.

The slog of nations can get monotonous. That's when you need the snarky narrative.

The event returned to pretty amazing when the Chinese delegation entered the stadium with Yao Ming and the nine year old boy who helped save his two classmates in the earthquake earlier this year.

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We all wanted to see my son's kindergarten teacher's daughter walk in. It was really kind of neat to see someone you know from everyday life walk into a party like that.

That little boy was incredible. Engaged in the drama, but totally unflappable and unfased by the whole spectacle around him - but we already know that when the end of the world as he knew it started with an earthquake, he had a strong heart and cool head. That kid dug himself out, led several conscious classmates to safety, and went back in to drag out two more who were unconscious. Totally cool cookie. No wonder he was being adored by Yao Ming and the entire Team China.

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This was the first one my son was old enough to [stay up and] care about, and he totally got into it.

I've only watched women's volleyball (court and sand) and swimming so far. Volleyball is brutal!

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