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Ernie Boch: American voters just drunk guys with beer goggles in a bar at closing time
By adamg on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:11am
So naturally they'll vote for his pal Trump.
If you don't understand this, Boch adds, then you're obviously not single like he, well, isn't. Also: Being a rich-guy supporter of Trump gets you out of traffic tickets.
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And like most drunks
They will wake up in the morning and ask;
WTF have I done? Oh God no. No! No! No!
Please tell me it was all a dream.
Ernie Boch Jr
He is a great reason why the estate tax needs to be raised. This guy is a billionaire solely because he inherited a company his family started years ago? Good god...
Born on third base....
and thought he hit a triple.
I am not necessarily a fan of
I am not necessarily a fan of Boch, but his wealth does not bother me. I am not envious of what others have and I do not.
I do not see why it bothers people that some are born into wealthier families. Why does it?
And jealousy is no way to approach tax reform.
Ummm, this idiot held a fund
Ummm, this idiot held a fund-raiser for Trump at his mansion and was interviewed on CNN solely because of his 'billionaire' status. It's swell that his wealth doesn't bother you...but do you honestly think wealth doesn't impact politics?
Of course it does. Take
Of course it does. Take speaking fees from Goldman Sachs for instance.
Its not a jealously of wealth
Its the unfairness of a Billionaire who can live on inherited wealth, passed on from generation to generation in some cases and not pay any tax on that inherited wealth. And use that wealth to influence government for personal gain.
If they are breaking tax laws
If they are breaking tax laws than that's one thing.
I bet even Liz Warren takes allowable tax deductions, no?
You're basing your posts on emotion. Are they breaking laws?
No.
You don't like Boch - fine, I know who he is but can't form an opinion as I don't know him well enough to do so. But, his wealth and how he spends it does not bother me as it is his right. He also has a right to back any candidate of his choosing.
Let go of the envy.
Just because it is currently
Just because it is currently legal for billionaires to dodge taxes due to loopholes that were built into laws via corporate influence does not mean that it is just or that it should be legal. It seems as though you are confusing outrage over injustice with jealousy.
It's legal.
It's legal.
Are you working with your rep to get tax laws changed? You're anger is directed at billionaires. My anger is directed at politicians. Can't get anything done without them and they aren't as inclined as you or I to see there is a fair tax structure.
Instead you're getting upset at the rich. See, they've diverted your attention to a bogey man to take your frustration out on.
I call my rep and I get voicemail
A billionaire calls his rep and he gets a personal visit.
Unfortunately,
many of the billionaires are beholden to the politicians and vice versa.
If the rich control our system of government (80 percent of the wealth of this country is owned by 20 percent of the population, roughly) and create a system that benefits a few for the sake of the many, yeah, I got a problem with the rich.
And you should, also.
No, I have a problem with the
No, I have a problem with the system.
I am not envious of others that were born into the "right" families, or especially others that earned their way (Zuckerberg).
Ok.
But the system in this country is now an oligarchy and those that control the system are people of wealth and power. And admiration of those born by fate into the "right" families does not neglect criticism of the same when and if those born "right" begin to vilify those who born by fate into not the "right" families (i.e. born poor) and are being held to a higher standard.
Fail
The system was created by and for the rich. I believe that the public policy of our country should be for the benefit of the American people. You, evidently, do not. If you did, you would not be the apologist for the system that you plainly are. Throwing up your hands and saying, "It's the system" as you disingenuously ignore what has created this system -- over the course of a few decades at most -- and what maintains it at all cost, is not fooling anyone with half a brain.
I'm sure we all feel duly chastened by your shining example. Not getting altitude sickness up there on the moral high ground, are you? Did anyone ever tell you it's not exactly moral to mischaracterize others' statements and motivations, and particularly not to persist in doing so after your error has already been corrected several times?
The problem is that these Billionaires are writing the tax laws
Why do you think they donate in such large numbers. They are not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They are doing it because it will save them more money in the long run.
4 Years ago Romney had a platform of repealing the estate tax all together. That would have saved the Koch family a combined $17.4 billion. So whats a few million in donations to somebody like them?
Rich people do not right tax
Rich people do not right tax laws. Politicians do. You should be angry that your politicians are being bought. You didn't vote for that, did you?
Sanders is the only one on the stage that can look you in the eye and say he hasn't been bought.
Does it bother you Clinton took over $600,000 from Goldman Sachs? And she'll probably get the nomination, although I hope not.
If people are that angry about wealth, why do they keep voting in the wealthy?
It isn't anger about wealth
It is anger with a system where wealth is allowed to overwhelm and subvert democracy.
Take the blinders off and look at the noose around your neck.
And do you hold the
And do you hold the politicians to the same level of comtempt?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong
If you don't think that the rich are writing tax laws, you are mistaken. See here:
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/11/11/243973620/when-lob...
I want to reiterate that this is not about jealousy or envy. This is anger about a corrupt system where politicians and laws are being bought by billionaires and corporations.
Then my God, hold your
Then my God, hold your politicians accountable!
The same pol that threw out Clean Elections in MA suffered NOTHING because of it. He eventially met his downfall due to other things.
Voters overlook these things come election time - why?.
I don't get why people here rail against the rich when it's the politicians allowing this to happen.
You can't right a law unless you've bought and paid for one of our illustrious politicians who keep getting elected, again and again. And, coincidentially get richer and richer as each year passes.
How about the pols that don't even pay their taxes? Gingrich? Rangel? Why are they not brought up on charges?
Am I the only one that gets pissed off about this??
far from it
I think it's clear that you're not the only one who's pissed off about the corrupt political system here in the U.S., but you've outlined the problem right there in your comment, perhaps unwittingly: powerful corporations, headed by wealthy people, find certain laws inconvenient. They throw lots and lots of money at politicians, individually and as a group, to try to get those inconvenient laws changed. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. The electorate gets jaded and stops showing up to elections. The kinds of people seeking political office get less and less committed to improving life for the American people, and more and more committed to the money and prestige of backing the right horse/lobbyist.
Many of us are angry about it. Many of us are fed up with the establishment, status quo candidates who've tried to march across the stage in the past few years/decades/whatever. I personally hope that Bernie will win not only the nomination but the election, because I think he's our best chance of fixing a badly broken system.
Step 1: Invest all
Step 1: Invest all accumulated wealth into long-term stock holdings
Step 2 : Work tirelessly to abolish the estate tax, by spending ungodly amounts of money convincing people it's a "death tax" or "double taxation" or whatever the bogeyman of the week is.
Step 3 : Die before selling any of your assets that have appreciated
Step 4 : Your kids get all the money you made off of investments, without even paying the pittance 15% capital gains tax on them!
(Optional)
Step 5 : Start hosting fundraisers for The Donald, where you both congratulate each other on being self-made men.
I get many don't like him
I get many don't like him here, and his support of Trump is the frosting on the cake, but really.
What law is he breaking? What asset protections is he using and deductions he is taking that Warren or Kerry aren't? I only mention those two because warren especially seems to always be ranting about rigged games. Is she principled enough to forgoe those same protections that Boch probably takes advantage of?
I doubt it.
Jealousy...
Don't like the fact that Boch is living large? Petition your reps to reform the tax code. The MA Senate has held off on the Millionare's tax until spring, I wonder why?
No, you DON'T get it.
You persist in ignoring what other people have said to you over and over. In my book, that makes you stubbornly stupid, but I'll explain it to you one more time. He is not breaking any law. He is obeying the law that he and those like him bought, by first purchasing political influence to subvert our system of campaign finance and political contributions, and then taking advantage of said subversion of our system. Once you own the laws, it's not exactly a positive virtue to be nominally law-abiding, is it?
In other words, he's pissing all over our heads, yours included, and you're smiling and saying "Thank you for the tasty lemonade."
Stupidity...
I'll make my point then I'm
I'll make my point then I'm done with you.
"He is obeying the law that he and those like him bought, by first purchasing political influence"
So, because a politician can be bought - which is illegal, we ignore that and go after those doing the buying. By that logic, Clinton raking in millions from Wall St. has no bearing on who she is as a candidate or a person.
I expect more from our politicians. Human nature being what it is, the people trying to buy influence will always be there - always. Its up to our politicians to ignore them. We tried clean elections in this democrat majority state. How'd that work out?
Got it. That's your take and I have mine. Calling me stupid shows more about you.
I'm done when it resorts to name calling.
Have a nice day.
Is it not double taxation?
I make money, the government takes its cut. I die and my kids get the balance of whatever I didn't get a chance to spend. The government takes another cut.
Seems like double taxation,
Seems like double taxation, but then again I'm no tax scholar.
People seem to have a problem with others that are born into wealth to the point that it raises their blood pressure.
I hate this recent vilifying of the rich as it's nothing but class warfare. It gives frustrated people someone to be angry at, whether warranted or not. Its a diversion.
Why are some of your favorite pols coming out of government millionaires? How much wealth are our politicians earning and where does it come from? That's something to direct your anger at. Lawful insider trading? Something us plebs aren't allowed?
Same pols all the while whip up the easily frenzied to go after the "evil" 1%.
It'd be funny if it wasn't alarming.
Oh, my, Patricia,
There you go. Now I understand where you are coming from.
Why do you hate the supposed vilifying of the rich? Really? You have nothing to say on how the poor and poorest of the poor have been vilified over and over and over by many of those same people you admire (and continue to be)? Where is your hate for that? Good. Lord.
Class warfare? Good. We need class warfare since there is a big issue in this country with inequity between the classes. The "middle class" of my parent's age is gone (or nearly gone). You think that is a good thing? Think again.
Where have I ever vilified
Where have I ever vilified the poor, or supported someone that has?
Can you provide me some examples? (I am in no way meaning this as a snark).
Maybe we have a different take on "fixing" the middle class. The middle class has shrunk for many reasons. Personally I am grateful to have a standard of living because of someone much wealthier than I has created the job I have had for many years. It has enabled me to raise a family on my own. I work in a private company and trust me, we pay quite a bit in taxes.
This argument just made me chuckle because you'd think I was rich.
I hate arguments when they are based upon emotion.
We need tax reform and I think it would address many of our issues.
PS: an example of dwindling middle class jobs. Remember when President Obama appointed Immelt as czar of jobs, or something? Right after he shipped GE jobs off to China (radiology products of some kind I believe).
Now, who should I be mad at again?
Pat, read my words, again.
I did not say you vilified the poor. You said you hate when the rich are vilified. So I am asking you: Do you feel the same way when the poor and the poorest of the poor are vilified by those who have wealth and power? Can you answer that question? And, if not, please do share.
I am more curious to understand why you hate the rich being vilified. Yes, you are correct, many wealthy folks are not heinous and do good deeds but I am looking at a much broader picture of the nature of power and wealth.
Perhaps we do have a different take. I do not vilify the wealthy but I refuse to place them on a pedestal because they have wealth and/or were born by luck into the "right" class. And, frankly, I am tired of the vilification of the poor in this country. I just wish you had more to say on that in any of your posts.
Of course I do, and would
Of course I do, and would like an example of the rich vilifying the poor (no snark intended, maybe something I am not considering and I am open to your examples).
I do know wealthy people, but the people I know go out of their way to donate time and money to those in need. And, they do so quietly without recognition. They prefer it that way.
But, If I mentioned their name - they would be the target of anger by many. Not because of who they actually are, but because of someone you've determined them to be.
n/s
I would encourage you to open my ball park guess of some 90% of all history books.
Which pertains to 2016
Which pertains to 2016 elections how?
Right, because history is
Right, because history is irrelevant.
Seriously?
Never listened to a Donald Trump speech, I guess?
Not in it's entirety.
Not in it's entirety.
Where did he vilify the poor? Be aware, that we both interpret things with our own perspective. You hate Trump, so everything out of his mouth will fall into that category for you.
I don't hate Trump, dont' hate any of the candidates - none of them are worth the effort.
So, if you can point me to a reference where he actually said the poor aren't suffering enough, or to the like, I'm open.
Other than that, I assume it's your opinion of what he said.
Am I making sense?
About your step 4
About your step 4: If the assets haven't been sold, no capital gain has been realized. The person who inherits the assets does have to pay capital gains tax (yes, currently at the paltry 15% rate) when they're sold.
How should assets like that be taxed during inheritance? One approach would be to take a cut based on the current fair market value at the time of the transfer. So say the tax is 20%, if at the time of transfer the FMV of the assets is $1m, then the recipient of the assets is on the hook for $200k. If they don't have that kind of cash on hand, they'd have to liquidate over $200k to cover the capital gains tax on that, then pay the $200k inheritance tax with the proceeds.
That's easy enough with assets that can be easily cut up and sold, but what about a land transfer? Say someone has land valued at $1m, and passes that on to a child who can't cough up $200k? This is probably a common situation especially in the Boston area, where middle-class parents purchased the family home back when housing was affordable...
because its one thing to be
because its one thing to be born into billions and just quietly live your life.
its another to be born into billions and then shill political diarrhea to the people, as if someone born into that wealth has any concept of what its like for everyone else who is struggling to get by.
So, rich don't have the same
So, rich don't have the same rights as you or I.
I can't keep up with the rules to this game.
We are all free to support any candidate we wish to up to a certain income level?
It's less about money and
It's less about money and more about which side of the aisle you're on. You want to talk about money and celebrity? Matt Damon or Sean Penn stump for Warren and no one bats an effing eyelash.
Boch stumps for Trump and this message board lights up like a Christmas tree.
Yep. It's some grandiose
Yep. It's some grandiose anti-right wing conspiracy. In actuality, you just made a false equivalency. Unless Penn and Damon are parroting the idea that the middle class should work themselves into death while pandering to the rich or that they ought to treat picking a presidential candidate in the same manner a drunk dude would pick a girl to go home with from the bar at the end of the night.
Logic is clearly on your side here.
As Citizens United proves
Ernie's voice is of more value than yours. What Citizens United can't do is camouflage a moron.
The Estate Tax: Even Worse Than Republicans Say
Estate and inheritance taxes have large compliance costs, have been shown to suppress entrepreneurship, and are among the most harmful taxes to economic growth.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/estate-tax-even-worse-republicans-say
So you feel the same about Kerry
whose fortune was inherited from his second wife's first husband.
To the ignorant living under a rock individual calling Ernie boc
A silver spoon child yes his father was immensely succesful and accumulated a lifetime's Orth of wealth for generations to come by while you living under a rock Ernie Boch jr has provided himself the greatest resume to be the unofficial liaison of our the United States of America for the entire continent of Asia view Toyota Honda The name Wang symphony orchestra music those not capable without him and a quarter of a million and almost two weeks of what the middle class would deem as hell in Africa coming back providing all those truthfully excessive amount of aid like helping specific individuals acquire energy in there own homes is something he did for notoriety he did coming with an additional $150,000 to people he has zero in common with besides being a brother of humanity. figuring $100,000 is a more than respectable amount while for a person of his magnitude to provide considering the circumstances he exceeded that amount by 150% that's the individual you publicly showcase your Evy for by hating on him for being a humanitarian showing his true weakness of a heart pay attention while you've been out to lunch he's probably one of the most recognizable pioneers of handling such an enormous blessing his grandfather aan father busted hos to provide there family. it's just as hard to step into that situation and mismanage that type of massive life altering weight of being the top dog through inheritance I can assure far more heirs fail then succeed. Trust me while your making an ass of yourself knocking an amazing witnessed dead dead for e everyone to see I was employed for a while as one of Ernie Boch Jr finance manager and I witnessed him making it a point that he never got to big for all of us. Every Saturday morning we had mgrs meetings at the subaru of new England Saturday morning meetings where every manager in the auto group attended a weekly meeting I saw Ernie provide most of us bonuses for our hard work and achievement to most of us at times matching or at times exceeding our monthly income amounts in forms of bonuses pers Po Nally delivered by himself. imagine that most of us earned in excess of 10k a month so imagine the management weekly bonuses he shells out weekly. Your obvious envy of not only his family's prior generational success but watching Ernie Boch succeed showcases a major character flaw. Lastly ponder upon this the employee stock options plan provided is so generous that there's a salesman I'll keep nameless that never has worked in management that's a multi millionaire multiple times over that if I truly knew the exact amount I bet it would floor even me but do you think he has to operate at a level of detail and dotting of I'd and crossing of TR's taught to him by his father and grandfather certainly providing a rate of growth at least equalevelant to the two generations before him when you realuze he isn't km just citizen of new England he's one of theost honored and recognized individuals anywhere I n this planet. Last example of Ernie's brilliance I was a sales mgr finance director another auto group that has a Subaru franchise a worker in the franchise right next door to the struggling almost failed franchise right before the doors almost closed at this Subaru dealer prior to working for Ernie I witness the stretch tribeca pull in for a meeting i saw him assess what was a diagnosis of micro management not only did Ernie direct this Subaru owner to cease all micromanagement hire a true general manager and youthe dealership owner move your office out of this building and allow the system he obviously was pretty knowledgeable in because not only did he save this dealership days before throwing in the towel today it's on of the two strongest earners out if ok f a seven dealership auto group that Ernie direct leaves upon utilizing his dealership practices to one of his franchised Subaru dealership 30 right miles from Subaru of new England headquarters making a drastic bold decision that not provided immediate saving of this once belly up franchise to making it highly p productive and one of his better profit earners a decade plus later. He's his own brilliant mogul because he not only inherited prove to develop it further and pave his own way so know that I've made damn sure the internet now's of two a few stories he is way to modest to disclose hopefully one day someone biographically recording his life finds these and asks him about them I'm glad to have shared it because no one else would have because he does things like this all day ever day so upon reading this smart mouth sign back on to who we know as E BJ Ernie Boch jr humanitarian and business mogulfinality as and sorry if some of f TTY this R doesn't m a key sens I did this 20 minute response on my cell which is minus a spell check
"WTF have I done?"
Trump is one morning after that can't be treated with an ointment from the clinic.
This guy is a moron
And he admits on national TV he drives without a license on him? I think he has affluenza.
I liked Weird Al Yankovic
I liked Weird Al Yankovic better when he stayed out of politics and stuck to comedic songs.
So what does an out of touch tool look like?
Come on down...
You learn something new every day
For instance, I was unaware that it was possible to find Ernie Boch Jr any more reprehensible than I already did. What a vile piece of feces.
Not even President yet and
Not even President yet and President Trump and his friends are already doing favors for each other. Sounds kind of corrupt to be letting someone off of a ticket just because they are supporting the same person. Even worse when the beneficiary thinks it is so benign that he mentions the story on national television.
I will give the benefit of the doubt to the officer that he let him off for other reasons (people get off without tickets all the time) and happened to be a Trump supporter as well. It would still hold that Boch believe he got off the ticket because of his political leanings AND is bragging about it. That says quite a bit about trusting Boch's political opinion on how the Government should run.
^^^ THIS
Is why Trump should not be elected. We don't need anymore grease palming in government.. we have enough already.
Trump wont be elected
By this is why Hillary, who may very well be nominated should not be.
^^ This.
^^ This.
I'll take Trump over Cruz or Rubio
There, I said it.
Ah yes, Rubio, Trump, and Cruz
See no evil, hair no evil, and evil.
John Kasich
My parents love this guy... he seems nice, not cray cray like the rest of them. Seems very genuine and stable.
Unfortunately, he's a Koch puppet.
I think I've worked my dad over enough so he will #feelthebern in the NH Primary.. My step mom on the other hand...
I'm not voting for any of them
I liked Paul's real libertarian views but he's gone. I agree Kasich seems more reasonable but unless Rubio gets hit by a bus in the next few days his chances are dwindling rapidly.
ugh
I can't stand Rand Paul.. what a crazy mouth piece. The dude is insane..
RON Paul maybe.. he's not as vapid.
Yes Rubio... The closeted homosexual who used to go to Circuit Parties in So FL in the 1990s.
And the of course.. Ted Cruz. I shared this on my facebook wall today. Revolting (Sorry non-FB users, I can't put this elsewhere since it's a re-post)
I really hope they deem that Cruz cannot run because he doesn't qualify. I'd love to see his sorry ass cry and whither away.
have you missed the fun on Twitter?
#ZodiacTed. Wake up, sheeple.
LOL
No :)
but I've also been so damn busy.....
Yeah, kind of grasping at
Yeah, kind of grasping at straws there.
Did the idea of Rubio being
Did the idea of Rubio being gay get you so horny that you failed to read very article you posted? Sorry cybah, not everyone and everything is gay, much to your dismay.
Yes, real libertarian views
Except in the cases of gay marriage and women's reproductive rights, then the government can't intervene enough.
Plus, any medical doctor that perpetuates the 'vaccine causes autism' theory that has been discredited again and again needs to go back to med school.
I'll take horseshit
Over cowshit and pigshit.
There. I said it.
KinkyGrrl
KinkyGrrl
You just described the whole presidential election.
Including all candidates.
I feel sorry
I feel sorry for any old timer republicans (i.e. from the Bush, Dole, Reagan era).. they really have no candidate right now.
Either the person is bat shit crazy, super conservative, or not a strong enough candidate to carry thru to November.
And FWIW.. My parents are old timey republicans. They do not share many of the same views of many running today. Which is why they like Kasich so much..
The Dem ticket is the same
Both parties are unrecognizable from 10 years ago.
Someone needs to jump in who's in the middle, because between Trumps Maoism and Bernie's full blow communism were fucked. One will drag us into a war and the other into bankruptcy!
But the Democrats and have great candidates!
You've got old white delusional Bernie Sanders who wants to tax the country into oblivion and soon to be indicted career politician and elite, Hilary Clinton. If you are one who thinks she did no wrong, remember General Petraeus was prosecuted and forced to resign over similar but FAR less egregious behavior and abuse of classified information...
Look.
I HAVE health insurance and I paid out my full deductible just for basic medications and doctors visits for a chronic condition. No hospitalizations, no crises, just basic stuff. That's about $4000 out of pocket every year and it does nothing to lessen the anxiety of what I'd do if something really bad happened. You think I give a shit about the extra taxes I might pay with a single payer plan? Please.
Well
I give a shit about the taxes I pay for your health care.
If you have private insurance
If you have private insurance you're already paying for other people's healthcare in the form of high premiums. I go to the doctor once every 2-3 years for a check up, no problems, no medications, young and healthy, and my insurance just keeps going up and up and up. It's not because I'm the one using it. I'm paying for other people, old people, smokers, drinkers, etc, to all get health care.
If I have to do that either way I'd rather do it through a channel where some dipshit CEO isn't skimming 20% off the top in addition.
Remind us...
Which of her adoring biographers was Hillary f**king? Because it's slipped my mind. And you do realize that the information in the emails was not classified at the time?
Honest to god--I don't even like Hillary that much but the crazy-pants vitriol thrown at her by you loons is beyond belief.
Its that "vast ring wing conspiracy theory"
Seriously... So the FBI that has been investigating and therefore perpetuating this scandal? Vitriol? More like the fact she broke the law, lied about it, lied about lying. If this was a republican, I'd be equally angry. This type of behavior should not be tolerated.
And your talking point about the information "not being classified at the time" is flat out wrong. Its been proven false ten times over. Just lazy. Good try though...
"Clinton’s flimsy claim never to have handled e-mails labeled classified imploded recently when an e-mail sent June 17, 2011, became public. That morning, Clinton’s aide Jacob Sullivan informed her that a document could not reach her via a secure fax. No sweat! Clinton replied, “ . . . turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.”
So, Clinton knew about these classified markings and, even worse, instructed her staffer to cover them up and forward her that document via a fax machine vulnerable to spies. Clinton’s “gross negligence” may have violated the federal Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 793."
Naw, I don't feel sorry.
Trump is a creation of the party. They own him. He did not just drop out of the blue sky.
The party is as it is because of the beds that many of "old timer republicans" climbed into.
You embrace party crazies to win elections then you have to deal with the crazy, eventually.
With all apologies to your parents. I would not include them in this mix if they like Kasich. Too bad he is not getting much (any?) air time.
I still do
I agree with what you are saying.. but I think its more that this party has morphed from the Dole-Era republicans and has been taken over by these tea party crazies. There's still plenty of moderate republicans who are against these crazies that are trying to run the party now.
Hell even Bob Dole himself says the party is not the same as it was years ago. And even some old timer GOPers are joining the Democrats and/or supporting Bernie Sanders.
I agree.
Unfortunately, the more traditional (i.e. sane) and/or moderate republicans are mostly out of the party loop now. What remains to be seen (and this is what makes it so interesting) is to see how the party is further transformed...or not.
Don't forget about...
... The dems. Looks at JFKs policies, he would be classified as a staunch conservative in the day and age. Today's progressivism is far more left than many Democratic positions of the past. See the current "social justice warrior/PC police trend" which is almost akin to Stalin style politics.
JFK wouldn't make it through
JFK wouldn't make it through the primaries in 2016.
Hell no...
To feeling sorry for those folks. They are the ones who started the dog whistle ("welfare queens" "those people") politics and their party is reaping what they sowed for so long.
The old-timers were not batshit-insane but they were cynical as hell.
According to Mark from Arlington
Swirl has left the UHub campaign and is headed back to Medford....
Wow.
Every time I think I've seen the week's most breathtakingly stupid commentary, I get proven wrong. This guy manages to backhandedly insult someone who he supposedly supports ("Well you have to pick ONE guy, and even though they all suck, he sucks the least"), show some pretty appalling misogyny, AND paint himself as the kind of douchebag rich kid that cops don't ticket because his daddy knows the mayor. Congrats, Mr. Boch--I need to buy a new car one of these days, and you've convinced me not to come within a half mile of one of your dealerships when I do.
Wow
This guy is a twit.
If I were the type of person who was going to buy a new car, I'd be sure not to buy it from his dealership.
He sold everything but Subaru
This didn't make big headlines, but EBJ sold all his Bock dealerships back in October. He's just the pitchman now.
He DID keep the Subaru of New England operation that is the wholesale distributor for every Subaru sold in the 64 dealerships in New England. [Source: NECN]
http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Ernie-Boch-Sells-Dealerships-330485...
Wrong
They're Subaru retailers now - at least according to the current WBZ traffic report branding.
No I think I'm right
I believe that Boch imports the cars and sells (wholesales) them to the retailers. Yes I know that Traffic on the Threes is sponsored by your NE Subaru retailers, but I think they are a separate group from the wholesale company.
sold in the 64 dealerships in
That was the point I was referring to, not Boch's owhership of the distributorship.
Money drives him not music
I'm a supporter of Trump. He won't make it to the finish line fortunately or not.
Boch on the other hand was handed a pot of gold at birth, starts some music venture in schools with cardboard boxes, and sticks, and wants himself to be thanked.
Please, how about at least 1 real instrument.
Someone stop this jerks madness
Music drives him not money
I'm a supporter of Boch. He won't make money selling cars fortunately or not, he already failed at that.
Trump on the other hand was handed a pot of gold at birth, starts some real estate venture across the world where he licences his name to sub-par construction projects, and wants himself to be hailed as a successful developer.
Please, how about at least 1 real development.
Someone stop this jerks madness
Fixed that paragraph for you bruh.
Um...
you just might want to check out Trump's background a bit more (hint: his boot straps also came from Daddy).
now now
He only took out a very small loan of $1,000,000 from his father. I'm sure it was the most beautiful and luxurious loan ever taken, but it was "small" by the standards of Tronald Dump.
Ok. Ok.
You got me there. (lol)
Well, I think he's done
Well, I think he's done pretty well with his million.
How much is he worth now?
It would be nice to get a million dollars "starting out" money and I'm sure I probably wouldn't have made it into even more money. Maybe, but not like Trump.
yes, it would very nice
That's my point: he didn't come from nothing. His father worked hard (and was a bit of a brute while he did it, from what I hear) to create a small fortune. Papa Trump was able to loan his son a million dollars - something that relatively few parents can do, you know - and Sonny Trump built an empire with it. I'm not blind enough in my distaste for Donald Trump to say he's never worked a day in his life: he has, and he's done some smart things with that money.* But to say that he's just a blue-collar boy who pulled himself up by his bootstraps is nuts.
*PLEASE don't take this for an endorsement. I'd rather see a monkey as president.
Adam you jumped right on this
Adam you jumped right on this! Your political spider senses tingle oh so well!
I'm really confused as to why
I'm really confused as to why CNN is interviewing Ernie Boch Jr. about the presidential race. Has this member of the lucky sperm club moved on from wanting to be a rockstar to wanting to be a political pundit?
Because CNN
They don't care who they put on the air -- they've got a lot of sensationalist time to fill and someone who knows Trump personally is gold.
Also, last summer
When Boch Jr invited Trump over to his manse. Based on the number of helicopters I heard over my house, the entire national media was amazed that Trump was getting a house party in Massachusetts.
Yes, and I remember Jr. Boch being interviewed saying
that he does not support Trump but he just wants to hear what he has to say.
So it sounds like he is now supporting him? Who knows.
Yeahhhhh
That's what he said then. Since then I've heard him make statements of support on various television interviews.
Where in Newton is that?
Wait a sec! Where the hell does one see that view behind Ernie from in Newton?!?
/snark
On a more serious note, that deal that the old man cut to get that Subaru wholesale thing is one of the greatest business deals that I have ever heard of. The do essentially nothing and get a cut of every Subie sold in New England (the Subie capital of America). The old man was a genius.
In case somebody hasn't seen this
2:00am in the morning and look who is creeping up next to you.
Poor Ernie. He does not understand that probably none of the women would want to go home with him.
Ernie is a case study in delayed adolescence (among other things) extraordinaire. The fact that he is still talking like a young 20 something single guy on the take/make (when he is pushing 60) is, well, a bit strange.
And the next time I get stopped by the cops, I will throw his name around. Perhaps it will get me out of a traffic ticket.
(Maybe its the hair. Maybe its how the light hits his eyes. But why does he look like a crazy man?)
It's the hair
You have to pick somebody.
And Ernie picks the bimbo with the big hair because he knows s/he will put out.
Like Trump, Boch loves the spotlight
And he found a tit he can suck on that will give him that spotlight.
two thoughts
1. Is his self-indulgent "music" hobby the reason the songs in all those New England Subaru ads are so fucking awful? My man should iron his hands before he tries to pick up a guitar ever again. Abysmal stuff.
2. If he were ever trying to get me to go home with him at last call, I would glass him.
Music moves him.
As far as I can tell, his music career consists of collecting expensive guitars, strumming the strings with some music hasbin in inane commercials and buying a band to plays gigs with (Ernie and the Automatics: Where Are You Now?)
And what about those creepy cartoons around the holidays with him and his family doing family things? Shudder.
Billboards on Rt 1
There is one billboard on Route 1 right before Neponset St in Norwood that has a seasonally changing display from Boch and his family. The "Bochtober" one was the stuff of nightmares.
if I have to hear "I LIKE THE
if I have to hear "I LIKE THE WAYYYY YOU MOOOOOVE" one more time, I might seriously end myself.
It's just a crude way of saying...
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Not Everything I'm Looking For..
Ernie Boch is a hypocrite and typical conservative. For a guy who was a notorious cocaine user, he sure likes to toot his own horn. Stick to selling cars in the burbs, pal.
Yes. We must never allow
Yes. We must never allow anyone to escape their past or learn from their mistakes.
What do the 'burbs have
What do the 'burbs have anything to do with it?
I'm confused and I admit I'm
I'm confused and I admit I'm not up to date, but is Trump now accepting money from rich supporters? Didn't he tell us he wasn't taking donations but using his own moolah instead?
He's lying at worst, stretching the truth at best.
https://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/13/donald-trump-may-be-a-sel...
I know our political system
I know our political system is a mess but that's no reason to insult drunk guys now.
Boch wishes he could be as
Boch wishes he could be as well-liked as Herb Chambers, but he'll never get there. Herb started out as a repairman from Dorchester, worked his off, and deserves every penny he has.
One could even call this click bait
Nothing like an Ernie Boch post to boost those click counts. ;-)
Combine it with some Trump garbage (it's all garbage, actually), and those web servers are overheating.