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Teens charged with beating man into unconsciousness at Andrew T station
By adamg on Fri, 11/26/2021 - 10:11am
Transit Police report three teenagers for beating a man officers found lying face down, unconscious, in the Andrew Square station busway shortly before 11:45 p.m. on Sunday.
Officers ascertained the victim encountered a group of approximately 15 juveniles while passing through the busway and was set upon and violently slammed to the ground striking his head on the cement curbing knocking him unconscious. While on the ground two additional male juveniles kicked and punched the victim in the head. The group then fled the area.
Police say responding officers "located a large group of juveniles inside the South Bay Mall parking lot." Based on witness descriptions, officers found the three involved in the beating - a 17 year old from Mattapan, a 14 year old from Hyde Park and a 16 year old from Dorchester - and arrested them for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon.
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I wonder if this will….
… provoke as much outrage as the dirt bikers and the motorist from Brookline.
Is there a subtext to your
Is there a subtext to your question?
Are you going to play devil’s advocate on this thread on behalf of the accused assailants like you did for the dirt bikers?
No outrage??
No outrage??
It didn’t happen in Brookline and it didn’t involve unpopular road users.
Got it. Thanks
I feel outraged. It's
I feel outraged. It's terrible.
Not enough for a screed, apparently.
Doesn’t suit your agenda.
Thanks once again.
What is your deal?
What is your deal?
You were practically falling over yourself in the other thread to push back against others’ outrage about dozens of dirt bikers attacking an elderly man.
Now, you’re screaming into the wind about an apparent lack of outrage over this incident?
Are you aggrieved because you
Are you aggrieved because you think this forum is unduly harsh on dirt bikers?
Do you feel there are class or racial considerations impacting on how people are reacting?
Why not just state your view plainly?
Ho, ho, ho!
I can’t thank you enough.
I’m not trying to be obtuse
I’m not trying to be obtuse here, but do you really think I was only outraged about the dirt bikes because the incident happened in Brookline?
I’ve complained on other threads about the lack of police presence (or any official personnel for that matter) on the T. So it isn’t that I only care about certain modes of transit.
I’d like to assume that you’re engaging in good faith here, but it’s pretty incoherent to vociferously counter any outrage about a malicious attack at the hands of dirt bikers to make a point about about double standards, or class, or....what?
I’m not a shill for cars by any stretch. But if your position is that UHub is too pro-car (is that your position? It’s legitimately hard to tell), then coming to the defense of lawless dirt bikers - one of the most persistent source of menace on Boston’s roads, and often deliberately so - makes less than zero sense.
It's not a competition.
What the hell, man?
Are we playing this game?
I am outraged, but you certainly don’t seem to be.
I couldn’t help but notice
You’ve posted 6 comments on this story, yet you haven’t noted any concern about this man being berated by a bunch of Boston’s less than finest youths.
Is your lack of concern a way to say you don’t care about him?
What happens in South Bay
What happens in South Bay Mall parking lot, stays in South Bay Mall parking lot.
It didn’t happen in the
It didn’t happen in the parking lot, it happened in the Andrew Station busway. In Dorchester.
Don’t get into town, much?
But you’re kind of right. In
But you’re kind of right. In so far as the victim and the mode of travel in this incident are of little concern to not a few Uhubbers.
I've got enough outrage for both
...and a little bit left over for whatever provocation you're attempting here.
Why do you care so much about
Why do you care so much about how many comments there are on various posts?
Have you ever been in an
Have you ever been in an accident on a scooter/ATV?
Hey, aren’t you supposed to be presenting…
your outrage bona fides at this point?
3 of Uhubs finest.
And were you wearing a helmet
And were you wearing a helmet?
The failure of Mass and Cass
The unhoused who lived in tents on Mass and Cass when interviewed by the media would often state they felt safer living in tents than in shelters. Now that the eviction process has begun many of the homeless will seek shelter in the subways. A T employee told me that several violent attacks against homeless men and women have occurred in the past couple of weeks and he expects more attacks as the homeless who were evicted from Mass and Cass migrate to the subways.
It doesn't happen in
It doesn't happen in Brookline because people call police if someone is standing at a bus stop too long. I live near Walnut Park where if these kids saw me watching them beat on someone and then I call police, then I risk a beating or worse. It's human survival mode in the trenches.
Why?
As in why did these kids choose to beat up a man?
Same for the ATV and bike riders who beat up an 82 year old man. Maybe understanding the motivations can lead to prevention. Not to be Pollyanish. There will always be people, especially younger, getting caught up in the mob mentality that swims like a school of fish.
We know this happens. Perhaps better to understand why?
What do we know? Violence is often glorified in US popular culture. Violence in exciting, it is dramatic. It is more interesting than just being at peace with each other. Violence is a terrific way to get "high" from excitement without using meth or coke.
Violence, causing harm, watching the bad guy win is often a lot more interesting than the bad guy getting caught and sent to prison. Sometimes violence is just more pleasurable and exciting than the live and let live attitude. Violence provides challenges that "civilized" living often doesn't, especially for younger folks who are just starting out as adults, regardless of skin color, economic status or class.
The person who causes harm is no less culpable. But that. does not neutralize the effect of popular culture that glorifies and so teaches that violence is okay. Especially when it is also much easier to see other people as objects instead of as other human beings. Violence, rage, etc. are more interesting and a lot sexier than compassion - at least in the short run.
Conflict is just a lot more fun. The debates on UHub, The Globe, neighborhood online groups give plenty of evidence. Perhaps we don't do a good job, as a society, of directing the impulses to disagreement, anger, rage and/or ultimately violence? If that is true then what can we do to make better use of the negative that is created every day?
If Uhub was a demolition derby.
We’d most of us end up like when Peter Bent Brigham.
Well said!