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Man shot at Whittier Street apartments in incident that started at Ruggles T stop
By adamg on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 3:32pm
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Police on Tremont Street. Photo by Derek Lumpkins.
UPDATE: Hyde Park man arrested.
One person was shot outside the Whittier Street apartments off Tremont Street around 3:10 p.m., the culmination of a fight that started inside the Ruggles Orange Line station.
Police are looking for a man who fired into a crowd, hitting the victim in the leg.
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Transit Oriented Violence!
How cute.
Ban trains and buses for the
Ban trains and buses for the children!
Or better yet, make them safe enough for children to ride them unattended.
Lord of the Flies on the O.L.
Lots of complaining in another thread about how the Kids These Days are so rude on public transit.
Maybe it's a bigger problem that they keep stabbing and shooting each other on the Orange Line... I wonder if this is all part of the same gang beef. Surely the police have *some* idea??
What leads you
to believe this shooting involved teenagers?
Just a hunch
Given the recent spate of teenage violence on the orange line, plus the time of day.
Happy to be wrong.
Actually...
I witnessed it, and the shooting did involve teenagers.They seemed to be about 15-16, very young.
No different than "back in the day"
Like the high school classmate of mine that was put into traction for stepping on someone's Air Jordans or the guy who bled out on a friend's new jacket at Broadway after being stabbed in the early 1990s.
But probably a beef of some sorts, though the Forest Hills shooting was probably an outlier.
That was from Do The Right Thing
I think you are confusing movies and real life.
Why can't the behavior change
Why can't the behavior change if it's "just like back in the day". Can someone please post more success stories of change about these shooters/gang members/teenagers/twentysomething violent bad actors so that I don't lose all hope?
Sure
Operation Ceasefire AKA Boston Miracle back in the late 1990s, when the "bad actors" were locked up instead of getting a slap on the wrist and being released back into the community where they could continue dealing drugs, stabbing and shooting.
You might want to check those memories
Because the Boston Miracle also included non-prison programs, like getting rival gangs into a room to hug it out or something.
Right, but
Impact players (i.e. the violent ones who did most of the shootings) got to hug the bars on their window, not rival gangbangers.
I thought they
Were knocking down the Whittier Street Project?
Calling Charlie Baker
The orange line is out of control and not safe. On Halloween it will look like a scene from Clockwork Orange or the Warriors.
Send in the state police
Call the Guardian Angels
Call Batman
Pray for snow and shut the line down and blame Mother Nature
I'm confused
I take the Orange Line from Forest Hills and back every day, yet I never see fights, let alone shootings. Are peope just avoiding their beefs while I'm around.
Perhaps everyone should just commute with me, since aparentally it is the only time the Orange Line is safe.
See you guys at 7:30 tomorrow morning.
You are lucky. On average I
You are lucky. On average I see at least two fights a week and the aftermath of 1 shooting or stabbing a year.
My goodness.
My goodness. Two fights a week, over twenty years of riding, is two thousand fights. Not to mention twenty shootings/stabbings! I'm sure they're all carefully noted in your "I just made this shit up on the fly because I'm intimidated by urban youth" notebook.
I have also ridden the Orange Line for many years. Once I saw a guy get shoved by another guy. Another time, I thought my wife and I were about to attract the attention of some suburban ne'er-do-wells on our way back from a New Year's Eve party in Malden, but it turned out they were only approaching us in the otherwise-empty subway car because they wanted us to sing Billy Joel songs with them.
The type of people causing
The type of people causing these problems are still asleep at 7:30 in the morning.
Not necessarily
Sometimes the early bird misses the worm.
But usually nothing bad happens during people's commutes. And this was probably an outlier.
Same here...
I've been riding the O/L at least twice a day since 2003 and have not seen a single fight, let alone a shooting or stabbing. Generally on it at work commuting times (8 AM in, 6 PM home) so perhaps I just miss the fun associated with a bunch of unsupervised 16 year olds on the T.
Some feel
unsafe and want action therefore there will be a greater police presence to ease those uneasy folk. Similar to the opiate epidemic ie white kids are at risk so now it becomes a statewide crisis/battle cry even if said bad actors would fall victim to another vice or bad choice eventually. White lives always have and will matter the most...unless money or influence says otherwise.
How did this become a Race issue.
This is about a shooting, we have to stop shooting each other.
Simple
If this shooting, or the beef behind it, involved white people, the claim is that more resources would be going into preventing, much like how heroin is a problem largely in the white community, hence the government is interested in ending the problem.
My guess is that I am on the other side of "race issues" than Grovehaller. I think heroin should be dealt with like crack (though I support treatment for those who want it, jail for those who don't) even though portions of the black community, with horrible hindsight, think the heavy hand used to deal with crack was a bad idea.
In any event, yeah, let's do something about this shooting business.
Don't want to jinx myself
Never saw a fight in over 20 years of the Orange Line, but there is so much bussing it probably doesn't count.
Have enjoyed my T experience with plenty of smelly people, people with bad breath, people listening to music out loud, loud talkers, loud phone conversations, sleeping people who take up a couple seats, wet seats where someone's peed, people who warn you of the pee, people who pretend they don't see you sit down in the pee, people with bags of fish to bring home for the weekend, people who spill sticky drinks on the floor or seat, a homeless lady who pees on the seat and yells at people, people who yell for people to move down, people who get irritated when you move past them because you get off at the last stop, people who don't give up their seats to feeble, ill or elderly people, tourists, people who run to get on the train ,people who are staring at their cell phones as they stumble out of a train with hordes of people waiting to get in, people on a rainy day who don't tell you that the roof of the car leaks, people, people who need people, and that was last week.
But no fights.