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'Leave now or we will shoot you!'

And what was Daniel Brim doing that was so heinous a State Police officer blared the threat through a loudspeaker rather than come outside and investigate? Taking photos of the reflection of the Zakim Bridge on what turned out to be a State Police building (the one down by the Charles River dam?).

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Upon further inspection, D. Brim believes that the building houses the State Police, though there were no visible markings or signs.

Is it a State Police building? If there was a real problem, I doubt they'd stay inside the building. This one makes little sense to me.

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I walk over the dam every day that I take commuter rail. The building is marked - it is the water patrol HQ.

Of course it is NOT marked "no photography". I took some pictures of the area the other day. I used a cel phone camera. Much different, I'm sure of that! Not.

Thing is, there wouldn't be too much that would really happen if the Charles river dam was destroyed. It is full open a whole lot of the time anyway. Sure, the river would become tidal in the lower basin, but there wouldn't be too much that would happen in terms of lives lost.

They should pay so much attention to the area where the mooninites were stowed at Sullivan Square, but they haven't even bothered with security cameras or barbed wire in that space, which is fully accessible to anybody who can climb a little.

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Maybe the harbor patrol had cameras too? It does seem like kind of an odd threat.

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While State Cops, Town Cops and MBTA ticket takers hassle citizens about photo-taking, there is an unprecedented expansion of video cameras in public places that invade our collective privacy, not to mention massive wiretapping of US citizens phone calls, email and web traffic. Some Federal government official asserted that your personal information must become government property in order to secure your safety. Um, no thanks.

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Only US military bases can't be photographed, and even then, it's only if the base commander has specific concerns (ie it's not the default policy.)

Please, make some noise about this. Demand the state police look into it, and get an official statement regarding their policies. I'm so fucking tired of Boston / MA police intimidating photographers.

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who would gladly concede his "god-given rights" enumerated in the Constitution in return for a false-security than insist on a real security and his "god-given rights."

Assault, by the way, is not a god-given right.

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We do live in a time where people slam airplanes into buildings, and a time where plots to blow up bridges and memorials (boston specifically) exist. Try not to act like your civil rights are being suppressed because you cannot take a photo. If some douche tried to take my photo, I'd sock him in the face too.

Not every single thing is your God given right. If you don't like it, move to Mexico where giving the police $5 will get you out of a murder rap.

*plays the mexican hat dance*

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You are so wrong.

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We do live in a time where people slam airplanes into buildings, and a time where plots to blow up bridges and memorials (boston specifically) exist.

No, we live in a time where people in power are have for more than a half decade been using a single event to justify though scare tactics, massive authoritarianism with a healthy dose of nationalism.

If you don't like it, move to Mexico where giving the police $5 will get you out of a murder rap.

If you don't like the fact that you live in a country where people are permitted to take a picture of anything they fucking well please if they're in a public spave and you're so happy to cower like a frightened sheep and let officials pull away your inalienable rights because they claim it'll make you safer, get the fuck out of America. This is not supposed to be a Fascist country, and the police do not have unlimited powers restrained by law- it's the opposite. They have only the power granted to them.

The price of universal freedom is that someone will use that same freedom to hurt you. If you cannot deal with that, move to any of dozens of countries where the government does whatever it pleases in the name of "protecting" the people- when really, it's just protecting itself.

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We live in a time six and a half years after a few idiots slammed airplanes into buildings. There is no indication that such an aberrant event will ever happen again. It's long past time that this country fully returned to normalcy.

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I'm sure you would like to lick Putin's boots and be a good little mob/police state fascist.

Get the hell out of my USA, please. You are soooo not original intent, and would have been righteously tarred and feathered for your tory complicity.

And if you are so brave that you would punch someone, why are you so bravely anonymous, huh?

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"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.

Stay in school asshole!

frakin' pansy coward...

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That's a measure of how far the US has sunk, when violent goons tell us that if we think we have rights, we should leave the country.

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If someone were to organize a "critical mass" of photography, where 300 photographer showed up at said building, or the federal reserve bank, etc., to photograph and stand up only for what is permissible under law, I would DEFINITELY attend.

Even if safety is an illusion, there is at least confidence in numbers.

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...trying such a thing would probably elicit a serious government response (ie, riot police, organizers arrested beforehand, etc.) Numbers make cops freak out a lot more :(

What we need are people to stand up for their rights individually. If it means getting arrested, so be it- the only way they'll stop pulling this shit is if they keep getting bitch-slapped by the courts for civil rights and color of law violations, etc.

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you are right, brett. i double dare you to go get yourself lockled up right now.

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have you been lockled up anon ?
i double dog dare you.
you wont. you're all talk.

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don't feed the un-american coward trolls please, ignore them.

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One new person could come out and photograph as the other was being chased-away/threatened/arrested. So a steady stream, instead of a mob. It also be documented from afar.

Just a thought.

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is that it was some schlep in the bridge of the Charles River Dam who controls the locks. There are loudspeakers there for them to communicate to to boaters to tell them which lock to take. I think they get bored sometimes and heckle passers by.

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Bingo! I think we have a winner. It doesn't make for a good pissing match thread, but it makes sense. Thank you.

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...the person speaking is guilty of assault for threatening the photographer with fatal force. If it was an officer, then they're also guilty of color of law.

This is not a case of juvenile pranking.

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that it was somehow acceptable as a juvenile prank. Anyhow, I walked over there today while I was on an errand at the Land Court, which is next door. That window is indeed on the State Police building. The photographer really should file a complaint with the State Police's internal affairs office.

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It's pretty amazing that an alleged threat to shoot someone by the state police elicits such a response when this site regularly posts news of real people being shot and killed almost everyday and it doesn't get a peep.

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perhaps if for each one someone mentioned 'get the fuck out of America' then there might be a response. But then again I had expected a response along the lines of nationalism pros and cons.

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Because poor minorities don't count. Only some lilly white latte swilling photog matters.

People around here have some messed up priorities. They'd step over a homeless man lying in his own urine to spit on someone driving an SVU.

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your intent is clear. you're a race-bating provocateur poking your finger in the eye of others who post here for your own amusement (either that or you're ignorant as all fuck.) In either case, you should not be taken seriously.

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I'm far too lazy for that. Besides, my loogies have wings.

As for the case at hand, I can't determine the race of the photographer, so I'm all in a pother over how much bias I should apply.

It's really difficult to exercise prejudice adequately in a world of faceless anonymity, don't you think?

Now where did that latte go?

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I'm not aware of the local police (state or otherwise) shooting someone "almost everyday". If they did, you bet we'd be talking about it here.

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You know, that Franklin quote about liberty and freedoom isn't something he ever said, right? Just because Bill Maher and some medicore movies use it doesn't mean it is true.

Also if you trace back the roots, you get the actual quote which is:

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Is taking a photograph one of your essential liberties? ;)

As for 'some idiots who ran planes into buildings' yes I know we all live under a comfy blanket of freedoom and safety now.

One last question, for people like HippieGrrl and the King of Assembly Square - if someone invaded your respective towns tomorrow, would you take up arms to defend it, or would you sit at home and blog about it with seemingly smug indifference? I assume most people who come here must be unemployed or some sort of part time person to spend so much unproductive time online. ;)

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And yes, taking photographs is an essential liberty. There is no good reason to prohibit it anywhere, except where it gets in people's way (e.g. using flash and tripods in T stations).

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Using the Spatch Scale and the combined underbridge index, I say this latest OMO rates a paltry 7.25.

I'm sure those invaders would love to hear one of your opinons of one man. The resulting summary execution would probably delay them long enough for me to load my .22 and climb onto the roof.

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Chickenhawks like to redefine "freedom" and attack libruls.

Charlie Wilson (D-TX) was a liberal. He secured the funding for the Afgan victory over the Soviet Union. Charlie Wilson did more to bring down the Soviet Union than Reagan ever did. Wilson spent less than 10 billion. Reagan ran up the biggest Federal deficit ever, well until Bush.

The last time Dick Cheney went to a war zone it was to secretly get the Maliki to attack Basra and make the surge look successful. Maliki was getting his ass kicked, even with US air cover. The Iranians brokered a peace. We're playing checkers and their playing chess. Meanwhile Obama is watching us bleed red in Iraq and on the Federal balance sheet - that was his first objective. Dumbass Bush.

The only way these guys can run a guvmint is in the darkest corners of secret secrecy. If Americans knew what Bush and Cheney were doing, they'd recognize their rank incompetence and impeach the war criminals.

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Is taking a photograph one of your essential liberties? ;)

Yes, along with a whole bunch of liberties that the founding fathers put their lives on the line for. You might find it trivial, but they didn't. They risked death in an attempt of simple representation in British parliament, which would have done little to change anything because of their paltry numbers.

We'd do well not to forget where our nation came from. A slip here, a slide there, and this "great experiment" will sour.

PS, i knew the quote wasn't exact, but did you really expect anonymous to make the connection with that wording? ;)

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