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Is anybody really disgusted with Jacoby Ellsbury besides one grumpy old coot of a columnist?
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Shaughnessy... get a life!
Part of me was hoping that UH would pick up on this muckraking... but part of me was hoping that nobody was paying attention. Still, give Shank credit for having the ability to still hold a grudge against Nomar for that game 6 years ago...
Shank needs a hard kick to the ribs
Except then we would have to endure his whining for months and months, even after his doc cleared him for going back to work.
After reading this innuendo
After reading this innuendo and supposition filled article completely lacking in any factual information, I'd say there's a word to describe Shank, but I can't post it on a family website. He disgusts me. More so than ever before.
I can't believe I'm saying
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Shank is actually right for once. Ellsbury has a history of not playing unless he's 100%. How he can sit by and watch his team struggle in his absence when he's good enough to play is beyond me.
He is playing -- in Pawtucket
It's up to the Red Sox when to call him back to the Show. CHB is totally off base as usual.
dangerous misdiagnosis?
I'd be pretty fed up with the Sox, or at least their medical people, if I were Ellsbury. My understanding from when I fractured a shoulder is that if you don't immobilize a broken bone - in this case, bones - for a sufficient length of time for knitting and healing, they may not heal properly. The Sox medical team may have jeopardized Ellsbury's career and livelihood by their initial misdiagnosis. It could be that he was livid at them. I would have been. This is speculation on my part but it seems like lots of speculation on Shaughnessy's part, so what the heck.
Broken ribs are a serious injury.
I missed 11 weeks of work when I broke 6 of them (broke them on personal time, not a workers-comp situation). It took almost a year to get to the point to where I wouldn't notice that they were ever broken (especially because ligaments and cartilage are also involved). Using your core like you need to when swinging a bat would be a pretty hard thing to do after breaking your ribs. I know I am in the minority, but I feel empathy for him.
I certainly hope that....
...you are NOT in the minority on this issue.
Some antidotes
http://www.universalhub.com/2010/anybody-really-di...
http://www.soxaholix.com/tp/2010/08/prisoner-of-pa... (warning for language)
Ells was re-activated today,
Ells was re-activated today, he may play tonight against the Indians. Score: Redsox 1, Shank 0
ellsbury is soft
he wont play until he is 100% and his teammates have noticed. the sox may have misdiagnosed his injury but he has been out for over 4 months with broken ribs? guys on that team are playing with pain and making sacrifices and ellsbury ( perhaps under the watchful eyes of agent scott boras) is taking his time getting back to full strength. he is afraid to play at less than 100% and hurting his market value. ill be surprised if he is back with the team next season. sorry pinkhats, i know how cute you all think he is.
Cracked ribs are quite painful
If you haven't had this experience, don't judge. I have, crashing on my bike on ice on the temporary Lowell Street pedestrian bridge in Somerville a few years ago. The pain lasts for months and is initially quite excruciating. And there's nothing you can really do except wait.
ive had broken ribs
i know how much they hurt.i was back to work in a couple of weeks, sore, but back to work. this kid broke his ribs four months ago, he is 27 yrs old and has a training staff avaiable to work on him whenever he likes.he is fast but he is soft. give me a dirtdog.
And your job involved....
...swinging baseball bats -- and running to catch fly balls -- and sliding into bases?
I suspect not.
i was a roofer
not as hard as swinging bats and sliding into bases but difficult none the less. if i had taken 4 months off i would have lost my job.
Good for you
But I would suggest that professional athletes might want (and need) to take a bit more care not to do things that will end their careers prematurely. (And team owners might not want to take risky chances either -- at least if the player is not already at the end of his contract).
you're right michael
it is important that athletes take better care of their bodies than roofers or workers of some other lowly profession. luckily i was making 11 million a year and i was able to live off that if i wasnt able to return to roofing. give me a break dude. the kid is a nice baseball player, he is acting like a baby because he is afraid of not looking as good on the field as he does at 100%. johnny damon would have been out a week or two and he would have gone on the DL kicking and screaming.
You keep missing the point
But that's okay.
part of the original author's point.
Was that Ellsbury played in Pawtucket (and had swung a bat in other situations), and then sat in the dugout at the Sox game, and then went back to Pawtucket the next night and played in another game.
If he wasn't hurt, then why swing a bat in these other situations and not for the Sox during a 1-3 week period where they could use everything they need? Even Francona has doubted this guy through statements (or non-statements).
I hate to question injuries as much as the next guy, but when a player can swing at near 100% for batting practice, he probably can swing that same way during a real game.
Plus there are other issues at stake here as well. Other players that have been injured have gone to Sox baseball related doctors and training programs. Ellsbury decided to do his own thing out in Arizona.
And Ellsbury isn't making the Veterans salary money yet either. Last year it looked like Ellsbury could get a nice new contract probably worth tens of millions of dollars. Because of the way he has handled this injury, he might get 50%-75% of what he would have gotten in my opinion.
Then again, if there are teams out there willing to pay big money for players with "soft" reputations (see the Red Sox/JD Drew contract), Ellsbury might make out after all.
Do we know that....
...Sox management seriously disagrees with his course?
We don't. And the day he sat
We don't. And the day he sat on the bench between Pawtucket outings, he was not on the active roster, so it's not like he could say, "put me in coach!" He played last night, presumably he'll play again tonight.
You have to read between the lines for most of this stuff.
But it is highly unusual for a player to simply take off to Arizona for a month during an in-season injury. Several players had expressed that they would have liked him to have stayed with team as past players have, and recently Francona basically stated that it was up to Ellsbury when to come back.
My only issue was the past 2-3 weeks where it looked like he may have been able to suck it up and play for 15-20 games.
If the management had no problem with his actions....
...and presumably they had experts who consulted with his doctors, why do we need to second-guess (and question his macho bona fides?)
Management isn't going to tell you if they have a problem.
I mean, Shank can be a dink sometimes, but if he is going to write in a Boston Globe article that many people in the Red Sox organization are unhappy with his situation, then there are probably some people in management that are unhappy with his situation.
Simple Economics Bostnkid
Your employer had a vested interest in your either getting back to work ASAP or in hiring another person.
Ellisbury is essentially a "property" and his employer has a vested interest in his longer term performance rather than his immediate return.
i hear you swirly
i just like not getting michael's point.
disgusted with jacoby
can we all agree that he is a big pussy now?
Not disgusted at all
Maybe those doubts about incomplete healing weren'rt bogus after all.
Another broken rib:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100818&c...
you've seen the last of him
he will def be traded during the offseason, no doubt about it.it's too bad because he is fun to watch.