Wicked Local Brookline reports that, according to police, a visiting bicyclist from Jamaica Plain got upset at a motorist going around him on Washington Street, apparently because he was riding in the middle of the street to avoid just that sort of thing, so he caught up with her at a light and smashed her windshield with his bike lock. Police then arrested him.
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Go home, you're drunk!
By greenlinetobrooklyn
Thu, 12/19/2013 - 2:42pm
Go home, you're drunk!
Touche' for the bike douche' s
By bulgingbuick
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 8:00pm
Well these fellows are certainly not biking anomalies are they: http://imway2fat.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/fat-m...
Forgive my immediate anger
By spin o rama
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 3:53pm
If I'm angry and yelling at a driver, its most likely because they almost hit/killed me. Just my two cents.
Although I've had a few obscenity laced fits directed at drivers that have almost hit me, only to line up with them a few lights later and offer my sincere apologizes when waiting for the red. "Hey, I'm sorry for yelling at you back there, I was out of line. But you need to check your mirrors and blind spots before you pull across the bike lane to park."
Just one example I know but we aren't all assholes, just like all drivers aren't assholes. Plus I can't stand riding around in constrictive clothing, I prefer something comfortable and light fitting.
As hee-larious as the spandex jokes are...
By Sally
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 4:35pm
Virtually no bicyclists in Boston wear that shit. Seriously. We're mostly commuters and regular folks going to work, running errands, etc and dressed accordingly. If I go out to Concord on a Saturday in October, yes, I see the guys in spandex. But not in the city, not biking through JP or Brookline or Brighton. And I've said it before here, but the ones who seem angry to me are the ones driving cars, not riding bikes. I'm happy as a clam on my bike, except when some jackass on a car is trying, through carelessness, inattention or misplaced aggression, to kill me. Get it now?
Spandex
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 5:13pm
For those of you who seem to have this thing about spandex and cyclists, I have an assignment for you: When you get home tonight, and change into your slothwear for the evening, take a quick look at the tags on ALL your clothing for the fiber content.
Most underwear: spandex
Most jeans and dress pants: spandex
Long underwear worn by outdoor workers: spandex
Bras: Spandex
Casual shirts and some dress shirts: spandex
That's right: your average hard hat on a cold day like today is probably wearing as much or more spandex than a cyclist. No joke. Look at a Work-N-Gear catalog sometime!
Any one of us reading this comment thread is probably wearing a fair amount of the stuff, too.
In addition, if it's totally
By Anon
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 6:48pm
In addition, if it's totally OK for football players, why isn't it totally OK for anybody else?
Dude....
By tenfortyseven
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:27pm
Is your jockstrap spandex too?
I didn't check
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 12/19/2013 - 10:05am
I wasn't wearing my strap-on prosthesis yesterday. ;-)
What about Yoga pants?
By bulgingbuick
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 8:03pm
Is there a gap between the use and wear of spandex and the use and wear of Yoga pants among fashion conscious bikerettes.
I disagree
By ElizaLeila
Thu, 12/19/2013 - 8:51am
I live in Boston, JP in fact, and see plenty of cyclists wearing spandex. Granted they're usually doing a workout or even going for a century ride. I have no problem with spandex.
I think what people may object to is the barrage of adverts on the clothing which makes them look like wanna be Tour de whatever racers.
As a motorcyclist, I just don't see why some form of protective clothing is objectionable on these rides. Yes, lighter is better - during a race. Wear some added padding during a workout, consider it part of the training regime and be safe. No one is looking out for you but you. Take it from me who had an SUV slide into my lane while I was still in it on Melnea Cass and also had a Zip Car driver (something else to be avoided at all costs, I'll explain below) left lane turn in front of me such that I came within 1 or 2 feet of their back bumper. Motorcycles are just 1 step above bicycles in the "I didn't see you" department.
Now to my Zip Car concern. I was a member for a number of years when I was carless. It's a great product. However, I give them a wide berth because too many times they act like they've just gotten their license which tells me they don't drive all that often and are out of practice. They will move in mysterious ways and are to be given a lot of room, preferably in my rearview.
Reflecting with Wonder of the Right Action
By RhoninFire
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 2:53pm
This does sounds like it's going to be a huge 100+ war. In this example, I'm probably going to feel conflicted. I only reflect on my habits below.
I am imagining the cyclist taking the middle because of the snowbanks. The car behind decided to pass in a lull taking the lane against traffic to pass.
I can easily imagine being (well I probably have been, though not on Washington) that biker in the middle. But I don't mind if cars pass me. I must admit I get a kick if I manage to keep up (partially by lights, but I bike pretty past), but I also dislike if I'm causing a line of cars building up behind me. If the car is passing with attending and courteously (regardless of what lane), I don't see a problem. But I imagine many don't. I can understand on major aspect, part of why one goes to the middle is because safety is compromise any other way (as per all this snow).
On the driving side, I honestly have to admit I would be be similar to the driver if I am imagining how it went down correctly. That means I would also pass the cyclist if there's an opportunity despite I am aware there's a strong possibility of hitting a red light. I would pass nonthreatening and clearly, but would pass if there's a chance. If I had to stay behind, I would feel annoyed regardless of lights and average speed (and if the car was in front, one scenario is making the light before it turned red).
In short, I can easily be either person (except for any road ragey aspect in passing or getting passed). That kinda bothers me.
It's not clear from the report
By Kathode
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 4:29pm
whether the passing motorist gave enough room to the cyclist when she passed him. As RhonInFire already said, many drivers (myself included) will cross the yellow line if there is no oncoming traffic to pass a cyclist on the street. If the motorist gave him enough space to pass safely, what's his beef? If she didn't, I can understand his anger but not his vandalism of her car.
Interesting details in article
By Markk02474
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 3:32pm
that are omitted from the abstract here. Cyclist arrested (at 6:55 PM) is 61 years old. When police caught up with him, he was no longer wearing his helmet, red bandanna, and "neon" vest. Driver reported the cyclist had first attempted verbal communication, though she found it indecipherable.
My impressions include: Monday was a bad night for choosing to ride a bicycle given snow banks and ice potential; I'm surprised a 61 year old living in JP isn't getting enough herbal tea to relax them. I'm not surprised by someone living in JP actively displaying an anti-car attitude.
huh...
By GTCv Deimos
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 3:46pm
Sudden outbursts of anger is a sign of early onset Alzheimer's...
Viagra overdose
By bulgingbuick
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 8:05pm
may cause discomfort in bike riding and a spastic urge to swing a bike lock.
JP LUVs cars and double
By anon
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 3:48pm
JP LUVs cars and double parking Mark. It's worse than Southie and they are even getting into the space saving bullshit. It's why the E line was never fully restored.
Sorry, its been a while
By Markk02474
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 4:43pm
since I had any cause to visit JP. So there are no more vegan, macro-neurotic, gluten-free, queer-positive, Greenpeace etc. co-op's/house-shares any more? Many of the artists and lesbians got priced out, but the others too?
We haven't disposed of all of them yet....
By tenfortyseven
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:31pm
But we're working on it.
Riddle me this, MarKKK
By Zunk
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:04pm
Yup, probably the guilty party. Lots of people try to hide their guilt when confronted. What's your excuse?
After prolonged periods in the cold, the jaw may not be very happy and it may make it difficult to speak clearly. Also, I'm fairly certain that her windows were rolled up. So, what's your point?
Or...perhaps there's more to the story that what is reported here. But, being someone of your bias, you immediately assume it was because the rider is "anti-car", because everyone who might have a beef with a driver - any driver, anywhere - is axiomatically anti-car? Isn't that right Mark?
Proof
By ElizaLeila
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 3:35pm
That wisdom does not always come with age.
Lots of tough cyclist here
By anon
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 3:48pm
Please, who are you fooling. Nobody is running from a middle aged person in spandex.
Nobody
By Michael
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 4:10pm
...is getting out of a car to run, period.
HEEEEEELLLOOO?!
By Richard Simmons
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 4:20pm
Not necessarily
By bulgingbuick
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 8:07pm
that sagging shit may be a concealed weapon.
You'd Be Amazed
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 4:30pm
I suspect some of my success in staring down mouthy would-be assailants threatening me with bodily harm has been because nobody is going to believe a smallish female started a fight and no dumbass bully is going to live down getting his ass kicked by a small mature female, either.
There are a lot of cowards out there who get their thrills trying to bully others. Fortunately, most are all mouth and will shut up and flee when their tough guy act fails to produce a fear response and elicits defiant self-defense instead. They aren't looking for a real fight, just a dominance thrill.
But I have a long and rather ugly history of dealing with bullies.
Not that this is something that happens all the time, anyway. In fact, it has been at least three years since anybody got obnoxious enough to play this game with me. I suspect motorists have simply been learning their place.
They are probably afraid you
By anon
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 4:43pm
They are probably afraid you are:
1.Stealing their souls (sorry couldn't resist the ginger joke)
2.Armed
3.Memorizing them and their car to file a police report.
4.Looking at something beyond which might hurt them.
5.
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 5:06pm
5. All of the above.
6. Good chance mentally ill.
By tenfortyseven
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:37pm
6. Good chance mentally ill.
Agreed
By bulgingbuick
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 8:08pm
Because only a lunatic rides a bike through a city post snowstorm.
Snow Patrol
By Winterstone
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 3:51pm
I just want to to point out that with the snow, the available bike lanes are either rubble, ice or non-existent. So... we need to access to the full lanes. Sorry folks, thems the bricks.
Try another travel mode
By Markk02474
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 6:41pm
In slippery conditions car drivers even choose alternatives to driving, like public transit. Perhaps that's something cyclists could also think about in snow choked streets.
Because
By Zunk
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:08pm
Because IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE WAY FOR THE CARS! THE CARS! THE CARS!
- MarKKK02474
Please use public
By anon
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:39pm
Please use public transportation or rent a zip car if you do not have the skills to ride a bike in winter conditions. Sorry, winterstone... thems the bricks.
FTFY
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 12/19/2013 - 11:37am
Please use public transportation if you do not have the skills to drive in winter conditions. Sorry, anon... thems the bricks.
Biking in the middle of the street
By B. Flowers
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:05pm
Personally i despise cyclists who ride in the middle of the road. To me you're asking for it. But on the other hand you know where you're riding and how bad the drivers can get in this city. But to smash out someones windshield because they went around you?! Sure we're suppose to share the road but again remember you're just a "guy" on a bike and not a car so.....move over and avoid the bullshhhhh. Oh and watch out for those car doors and people crossing in the crosswalk!
I don't get it
By spin o rama
Thu, 12/19/2013 - 10:40am
You're upset with people exercising their rights as outlined by mass general law? I'm asking for it when I drive safely to the rule of the law? I'll drive as far to the right as is safe and you'll have to pass me safely, its the law.
Don't tell me to move over, don't buzz me to teach me a lesson because I'm "asking for it." Pass me safely and we'll be ok, got it?
Oh and I'll look out for car doors, thats why many of us ride in the middle of the lane, because drivers can't be bothered to follow the law on THEIR end and check their mirrors before opening the car door into traffic. Remember, its illegal to door a cyclist and you will be found at fault, not me.
Laws are just words and bike lanes are just painted lines
By B flowers
Sun, 12/22/2013 - 9:43am
So basically what you're saying is that you're a douche who tells other people their opinions are wrong?! All im hearing is that youre one of those people who are always in the middle of the road so that means i personally despise you now. Seeing as your responded to my post like i personally knew you. Dont come on here bitching because you feel offended or whatever the case may be. I dont care what the laws states....ill just ask one simple thing. If im a car in the road,not the middle or off to the sides, i need to watch out for you because you decided to take my whole lane? Ill just hit you with the classic teenage response..."whatevs." Dont be an ass hat. My opinion is my opinion. If you dont like dont respond to it!
One last thing.....shut ya mouth and stay in your lane. Pun intended!
Had no idea
By polarbare
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 7:51pm
that every cyclist in Boston is apparently a BAMF. Yall should take up cage fighting instead of cycling.
Might as well through my $.02 in -
if the motorist was being a jackass, then the cyclist has every right to yell and scream at them - destruction of property is wrong. It's no different than when some Southie jackass smashes a window for taking "their" parking space.Maybe I'll do my next anthropology research paper on why cities appear to make (presumably) normal people into a__hats.
hmm
By Darryll J Fernald
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 8:54pm
Cops don't care til you get hit and motorists willingly tell you they don't care if you die. The law is on the cyclists side regarding where they can ride but there is no enforcement. I do not advocate violence but it's hard not to be upset and to try not to protect yourself when you know that many motorists don't care if they kill you.
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