By adamg on Mon., 6/9/2014 - 9:40 pm
When state Transportation Secretary Richard Davey wouldn't meet with protesters calling for a discounted "Youth Pass" for teen T riders, they sat down in his office in the Park Square transportation building and wouldn't leave - until State Police made them, and transported them over to their South Boston and Charles River barracks for booking on trespassing charges, according to O'Ryan Johnson, who reports they were released on $40 bail apiece.
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Summer work is tough to find.
By Pete Nice
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:06pm
Restaurants and bars are always looking, and if your willing to come back and work during breaks, they might take you.
Recreation departments for cities and towns that have day camps are always an option too. Sometimes those jobs are hard to get, but they usually pay very well.
Tons of private day camps and golf courses too.
Tough to start lookin grow though too, you need to start in the spring.
Restaurants and bars are
By Scratchie
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:23pm
For teenagers?
Yeah,
By Chris Rich
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 2:40pm
..someone has to haul away the dirty dishes and wash them and if you seem astute you even get prep work.. chopping onions.
You can also do bar back crap like hauling cases to the ice chest or schlepping kegs.
And because the hospitality biz is loaded with half assed risky mess proprietors and yucky office politics, there is high turnover.
I'm actually familiar with
By Scratchie
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 3:15pm
I'm actually familiar with the various jobs available in the restaurant business, and worked many of them between my 15th and 20th birthdays (i.e. very long ago).
However, I got the impression (although it doesn't say so explicitly) that this article is about high school kids looking for summer jobs. Not too many bars hire high school kids.
And when I was a kid, the restaurants who did (especially the ones that didn't require a car to get to) could generally hire all they wanted from direct referrals, i.e., children of friends, siblings of current employees, etc. Finding a job by walking in off the street as a high school kid wasn't easy then, and I don't imagine it's any easier now.
It probably depends on location.
By Chris Rich
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 5:23pm
The downtown Boston tourism monstrosity is probably a turnover churn but a tourist-less backwater may not be.
And of course the whoyaknow aspect will trump a lot.
It was an early kid job scene for me too... Magic Pan in Boston,.. the original Legal when Norman was still alive,.. and some gawdawful freak show called 'Betty's Rolls Royce.'
I ran club stuff for the Middle East but was off the hook for the food side.
Stand alone pouring license taverns aren't likely to be a good bet, but a restaurant with full booze service has tasks that kids are allowed to do.
Pot walloping or manning the Hobart is a common kid task and it is a transferable skill to biotech as lab glassware washers are just ultra precise Hobarts with an autoclave instead of a dryer.
Jobs for teens in bars
By merlinmurph
Wed, 06/11/2014 - 8:15am
Yup, my neighbor has two daughters that have worked in a local bar/restaurant since they were ~17. Another neighbor also had a 17 yo daughter doing the same thing. In a business where the help is notoriously unreliable, the most important part of the job is showing up.
agreed
By cybah
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 1:41pm
I agree with Swirly on this.
A lot of retail places no longer want summer help. Why? because its a training thing. Why spend time and $ training someone who is only going to leave at the end of the summer. Retail places would rather spend the time on someone who is going to stay longer.
Even Apple Store has eliminated all < 20 hour/wk positions (and one weekend day). Its getting harder and harder for part time jobs.
Did you check temps?
By Chris Rich
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 2:17pm
They were my bread and butter for years when I got tired of weed.
The evil ones are like Labor Ready and expect you to show up at 5 am.
The civilized ones let you call them once your intake stuff is done.
There are lots of 'light industrial' contingency labor things and he might like the variety and flexibility, initially, and get glimpses of various working situations.
There are lots of things like lab glassware washing in the huge biotech cluster.
Harvard even has its own internal temp entity.
Careerists hate the things but I always work to live and it is interesting. I got my old Biotech job as a hire on after being a pet temp.
Another thing to check is landscaper/lawnmower companies on craigslist although they usually start forming crews in late March.
And Dunkie D's surely has some ineptly run franchise on a corner near you where a kid might be handy.. they just suck a lot.
Oh yeah and then there are painting crews. Classic entry level kid crap labor and maybe even under the table although getting hosed for pay by slime contractors is a hazard.
Swirls , send the lad over to
By kvn
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:05pm
Swirls , send the lad over to Budweiser on Riverside ave, maybe they need night help unloading or loading the city trucks. That industry gets busy in the summer, and it's also vacation time too. Think he can lump the stuff at 18, worth a shot.
Company: Anheuser-Busch, LLC - Anheuser-Busch Sales of Boston (WOD)
Location: Medford, MA
Salary: $14.10/hour
Position Type: Temporary
Job ID: J-2014-373
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Requirements and Competencies:
This is an on-call position. Number of hours will vary seasonally depending on needs of the business.
Ability to perform physical requirements of job (e.g., lift/move full cases/barrels of product) and to work in cold temperatures.
Ability to safely operate job-related equipment (e.g., hand truck, pallet jack)
Ability to communicate in English, verbally and in writing
Ability to work productively in a team environment with minimal supervision
Primary Responsibilities:
Load and unload delivery and over-the-road trucks and ensure proper stock rotation in the warehouse and on the trucks.
Ensure loads are built and loaded accurately and in a timely manner
Maintain appearance of facility including monitoring and repacking damaged product and general maintenance of equipment
Safely operate various types of warehouse equipment as necessary
Thanks!
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:37pm
Thanks, Kvn - will do!
I needed to be drinking age
By merlinmurph
Wed, 06/11/2014 - 8:19am
True about beer wholesalers needing extra help in the summer. When I loaded beer trucks and delivered beer in the 70's, though, you needed to be drinking age which was 18 then. Good pay, union wages - after you join the union.
I jumped the turnstyles and
By Judy
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:07am
I jumped the turnstyles and used slugs. Let's see some initiative, kids!
clogging the turnstiles
By anon
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 6:41pm
With pennies use to work,too.
PSA
By Felicity
Mon, 06/09/2014 - 10:52pm
Tomorrow is the semi-annual public hearing to discuss MBTA compliance with the MBTA/BCIL accessibility settlement. Transportation building 10 Park Plaza 1pm-3pm. Rooms 1, 2, & 3. http://www.mbta.com/about_the_mbta/public_meetings...
Round one goes to protestors
By anon
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 5:54am
Deval's worst nightmare, a roundup of minority youth with legitimate concerns by white guys wearing leather gloves and wearing uniforms that give the appearance they are about to storm Poland. Its about time for the annual battle of the beaches where the MSP repel the hordes of minority youth who are all labeled gangbangers when they flock to the beaches this summer.
What does race have to do
By gotdatwmd
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:01am
What does race have to do with this? Nice Godwin btw.
There are no non-white
By anon
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:49am
Police? There are no non-white politicians? There are no non-white 'oppressors'? Really? And of course our governor is an 'oppressed' non-white male, what does he have to say? Flying under the radar,as usual?
Teen T pass
By DeerIslandAir
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 7:58am
One should reflect upon the fact that the members of the Mass. State Police are proud graduates of the "Barney Fife Police Academy." They like to think of themselves as the "PREMIER" State Police in the country. Sadly, they are the most bloated and inept bunch of fools. Need proof? Read the headlines.
That said, it would not sink the T into insolvency to provide a reduced fare pass for teenagers. Providing them with a pass is not handing them anything great. They still get to experience one of the worst public transit systems in the county. So nothing is free!
The State Police suck! The T
By Carty
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 8:19am
The State Police suck! The T sucks! Everything SUCKS!! AAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
Staties
By John-W
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 2:41pm
actually most every indication from those involved in this thing was that the officers were very nice. I don't think they felt it was much of a stressful situation. There's always plenty of opportunities to complain about law enforcement officers, this just doesn't happen to be one of them. Relative to other places in this country, I think there's a lot more to complain about - both on the public transit front and the law enforcement officer side -- elsewhere. We're getting soft here in the Bay State.
You should travel more
By RickW
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:37am
"one of the worst public transit systems in the county"
Have you been to the rest of the country?
There is no free ride.
By bulgingbuick
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:11am
Everyone should pay for the privilege of riding on a train that will beak down.
$28/month for student unlimited pass?
By dvg
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:38am
That's half a day of work at minimum wage for a full month of unlimited transportation within a 10 mile radius of Downtown Boston. Doesn't seem like a terrible injustice to me.
Let me know if I am missing something.
I just copied and pasted the info I found on the MBTA website this morning:
Students ride the T for 50 percent off the price of standard T fares and are eligible for a Monday through Friday pass for $25/month as well as 7-day pass for $28/month. Student T-Passes are good for unlimited travel on Bus, Subway, Express Bus, and Commuter Rail Zones 1A, 1, and 2 on school days.
Discounted rides or passes require a Student CharlieCard or CharlieTicket, available at participating junior high and high schools. See your school administrator for details.
Student passes are very limited
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:45am
Only during the school year, not after 8pm.
Also, you can only get them through the school using bizarre gymnastics and have to be outside of the walk zone to qualify during the year.
Again, not available in the summer, even for summer school.
Sorry, try again.
Well even still, that takes
By DTP
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 9:49am
Well even still, that takes care of half the arguments for a youth pass - getting to school.
And if you need it to get to work as well, get a monthly - at $70, that's $2.33 per day. I highly doubt there is anyone out there who cannot spare $2.33 worth of their daily pay for transportation.
Your numbers are slightly off
By Waquiot
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:52am
You are assuming a 7 day workweek. At 5 days (or 20 days a month,) under the new fare structure it would be $3.75, or less than a half hour work per shift.
I'm the crotchety old man on this one. I got my C Pass for $28 for 3 months the summer between junior and senior years in high school, and I didn't gripe about it. I also remember that the student passes were not usable after 6 PM, and looking at the new fare proposal, I don't see any limits on them. They have weekend passes!!!! I paid the fare for every Saturday and Sunday I worked during the school year, again without griping about it.
If you are working, you incur costs. If you somehow don't want to deal with the costs, that's on you. This reminds me of people who gripe about the graduated income tax. Yes, you are making that much more than before, and the money you make over x is taxed 3% higher. Do you really not want the 60% of the wages that are not taken for taxes in spite of the 40% that are taken for taxes?
On the other hand, if they get this pass, I won't be crying about it.
(I edited the subject- poor grammar from me)
My apologies, you are correct
By DTP
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:41am
My apologies, you are correct. I worded that poorly, but the $2.33/day still holds true. Counting only M-F it becomes $3.27 per day.
Financial math
By Kaz
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:40am
Nobody should be working 30 day months, let alone a youth employee.
At 20 workdays, that's $3.50/day...which isn't really much of a discount over a $4 round-trip cost on the subway/buses. The monthly pass is much more of a convenience than it is a discount program. Also, if you're working at $8/hr (minimum wage), then that's pretty much a half-hour of your work day or 6% of your GROSS (if you're even allowed to work an 8-hour shift which likely puts you in range of benefits...so 6% is the low-end of the scale) lost just to get to and from work alone.
Yes, if you only ever take
By DTP
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 2:59pm
Yes, if you only ever take the T to work, it is less than a $1/day discount.
But that's still a discount. That's still $10/month you're saving.
And the savings add up if you occasionally use the T for other things. Say you go out to dinner downtown after work. Say you come into the city on the weekends. Each of those additional trips has no additional cost.
No F'n way
By anon
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:17am
"The coalition is calling for a $10-a-month MBTA youth pass, “which would be available to young people ages 12 to 21, valid for use year-round without time or day restrictions,†according to a coalition statement."
21? If you can't afford a T pass at age 18 you're a loooza.
And you are ...
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 3:03pm
If you have to make statements like this to feel all tingly, you are a loooza.
Not the way to do it.
By DEMO
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:01pm
I do not agree with the (activist) adults in this situation
I have been and remain a longtime supporter of youth led advocacy, but the adults should not have allowed youth to be arrested for this.
However small the offense may turn out to be, it is not okay.
Yes affordable youth passes are important.
Not as important, however as a clear record for those youth involved.
It's kind of ironic that
By DTP
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 3:33pm
It's kind of ironic that these people are complaining about not being able to afford something, so in response they go out and get a criminal record, which will only hurt their ability to get a job!
Criminal Record?
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 4:23pm
I mean, I know the first amendment has been nullified by a private-public consortium and the prison industrial complex loves to take in a much larger chunk of our population than anywhere else and all ... but I don't think this is a criminal offense.
What were you
By roadman
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 4:40pm
arrested for kid?
Trespassing.
And they all moved away from me on the bench
with apologies to Arlo Guthrie
And
By Scratchie
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 4:43pm
... creating a nuisance.
Public transit as regulated public utility (not public good)
By issacg
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 4:11pm
With respect to the T's miserable finances, did anyone else see this interesting article from CityLab (f/k/a Atlantic Cities)?
Privatization, no...
By Kaz
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 6:59pm
Do you know how hard it is to figure out the cost/schedule of some of the buses in the UK because there are 20 different websites of varying degrees of quality and information?
No thanks. One crappy MBTA website is fine enough for me.
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