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Fight over South Boston restaurant not over
By adamg on Tue, 08/25/2015 - 2:51pm
Residents opposed to a restaurant planned for Dorchester and Dresser streets meet tomorrow to figure out their next steps now that the Boston Licensing Board has agreed to grant it the license it needs to open.
The session begins at 6 p.m. at 516 E. 2 St.
Opponents say the 15 parking spaces planned for the 130-seat restaurant are simply not enough, especially at a bad intersection in a rapidly growing part of South Boston, could take their fight to the state Alcoholic Beverages Control Commission, which has final say over the licensing-board approval.
David Winnick and David Matteo won licensing-board approval last month after shrinking the originally planned 240 seats to 130.
Several residents attended the hearing to support the proposal, as did representatives of Mayor Walsh and City Councilors Bill Linehan and Michael Flaherty.
The developers said the new restaurant would be primarily a neighborhood place, drawing mainly nearby residents who would walk over for a meal. Opponents, however, said that even at 130 seats, the place will need to become a sports bar, drawing on people from further away, who would, of course drive there.
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Somebody call the wambulance
These people do realize they live in Southie and not Southborough, correct?
what??
NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
Yo, kid
There was never no whambulance 'round heah 'till those friggen yuppies stahted showin' up.
Hold Up..
Just because we live within city limits doesn't mean every street can be treated like Landsdowne Street after a Sox game. Every city has residential areas and SoBo is a residential area.
having said that SoBo residents need more information before we can support this.
Are they going to serve PBR? are they going to have 10 TVs with sports on (read: attract meathead sports fans)? are the entrees going to be priced under $15?
If the answer to any of those questions is "yes", then do not give them a license!!!
We need high end places for SoBo's higher end yuppies.
- The Original SoBo Yuppie.
Maybe a Cheesecake Factory?
And you better hope there's no PBR, if the hipsters start migrating from the west it may drive the townies out for good.
Hipsters drink PBR?
I thought of PBR as a frat bro beer and hipsters were into craft beers.
Am I wrong?
Yes
You are wrong.
THANK YOU!!!
THANK YOU!!!
I live about 2 blocks away and this entire quadrant is sorely needing an overpriced wine bar that serves something other than hamburgers. What am I supposed to do in winter when my roof deck is closed up? Walk 4 whole blocks to the row of sports bars on Broadway to eat frozen fish and chips and drink some lousy beer? Can we get some Tapas up in here?
This is not sarcastic, btw. Enough with the bro bars, Southie!!!!
I'm a yuppy but ewww! Get
I'm a yuppy but ewww! Get over yourself. Really. Not a good look.
Get real
Nobody outside the immediate neighborhood will even know it exsists. They won't be drawing people from Woburn. It will be foot, cab and Uber traffic. All things considered this is probably the safest place for a bar.
I don;t know...
I know a person that works at Stats and he said its a suburban, frat boy crowd in there mostly from Braintree and Weymouth at night. (21 - 25 year olds).
This place will be close to Stats and we should make sure the "spill over" from Stats doesn't find a second home.
Here's an idea
Why don't you buy the property and liquor license, and then you can do what ever you want? Bottom line is Dorchester is a main street in a city, regardless of whether or not it's a residential area. If it meets the zoning requirements then you should just accept that it's what you signed up for. No one made you live two blocks from one of the busiest intersections in southie.
Who in their right mind would
Who in their right mind would drive from Braintree or Weymouth to go to Stats? I wouldn't walk 4 blocks to go to Stats.
I live 4 blocks from Stats BTW.
Right..
because you are not a 24 y/o frat boy wishing he was still in college.
go there saturday at 10pm and see.
You notice all the mass plates parked here on the weekend and they don't have resident stickers...those are all south shore meatheads.
Another reason to have 24/7/365 resident parking. relaxing the rule on weekends only encourages suburbanites to come to SoBo.
God forbid...
God forbid people come into the neighborhood and spend money. Perhaps we can set up checkpoints around Broadway Village and Castle heights to ensure that only Southie residents get into the neighborhood.
Haha..
Honestly, I did laugh out loud.
My point is, its not that we don't want non-SoBo people coming into the neighborhood. it's non-SoBo people that are obnoxious that we don't want coming into the neighborhood.
If people from South End or Back Bay come in, great! Braintree, not so much.
if this place is going to be Stats Part 2, then our quality of life will go down.
Just returning to their old
Just returning to their old stomping grounds. Where do you think the people whose families moved out of Southie went?
I get my cardio walking
I get my cardio walking quickly by stats on the weekends.
The best way to keep out the
The best way to keep out the bros from Stats is to serve some fresh vegetables and charge 20 bucks for them.
Walk
Walk is a bullshit term developers use so they don't have to provide parking. Look at all the people who "walk" to the bars, restaurants and nail salons on East Broadway. They park on both sides of Broadway to Third and Fourth Streets and all the alphabetical streets in between.
So if you believe patrons are walking, biking, rollerblading or Ubering to these establishments, you have no idea what you are talking about.
The citizens of this City aren't going to be buffaloed into believing the walking aspect of any development particularly after the walking bullshit we were told about the Convention Center.
Um...
People walk, ride the bus, take taxis and Ubers to these establishments every day. I walk to them on West Broadway and East Broadway all the time. Would you prefer they drive home drunk? Do you think people are going to risk losing their parking space to go a few blocks?
A parking lot for a city restaurant?
ummm, South Boston is a part of the City of Boston. How many restaurants in the city have parking lots? (think Tremon St in the South End) Not many...How do most people get to restaurants? Cabs or Uber. You are ridiculous if you think every new restaurant in South Boston needs to provide parking. The fact that they are offering 15 spots is a bonus!
Considering they just built
Considering they just built about 100 new condos within 2 blocks of this location, I think it is extremely likely that people will walk here.
Please god, let them serve good wine, keep the music below 1,000 decibels and TURN OF THE TV!
Heather for City Council!
that is all.
Parking will only make this
Parking will only make this intersection MORE busy. Southie neighborhood planning at its finest right here.