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Sponsor of bill to let cities extend last call now urges fellow legislators to vote it down

Boston Magazine reports state Sen. William Brownsberger (D-Belmont) has withdrawn support for the bill he introduced that would let any community served by the MBTA set closing times for bars later than 2 a.m. because the measure is too broad - the T just serves too many communities.

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Do we trust a person from a town where you could not buy alcohol until 2007?

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Back in the 90s I'm positive their was a liquor store off Rt 2. Maybe you are thinking Arlington?

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Ironically, I am the person who did more than anyone to bring alcohol licensing to Belmont. It was the first major thing I did in politics. That was 1998.

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So, is there some context missing here that makes your quotes in the article out of place?

Why is giving more communities the ability to change their closing hour a problem if they don't have to exercise them and everything stays the same for them?

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Quoting Brownsberger from the article:

“The way the legislation is worded right now is it gives cities and towns a blank check to write the closing hours they want for bars. None of those municipalities want that authority.

No, this is *exactly* what the towns want -- the freedom to set hours as they see fit. (A freedom I assumed they already had.) I don't understand the objection to this bill.

Edit: It's possible no town outside of Boston wants to extend hours beyond 2am but it seems hard to believe none wouldn't want the ability to make the decision if they saw fit. Towns never want to delegate authority to the state.

Also, thinking "Gee, the MBTA serves a lot of towns" is a embarrassingly stupid thing for a state legislator to realize.

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It's beyond mind boggling that allowing cities and towns to set their own rules is now considered too broad. That's pure insanity. We're aren't talking about some gigantic collective action problem; it's restaurant/bar closing times.

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to communities that have Night Owl service.

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It's crazy how much control the legislature has over things that should be decided by cities and towns. Why should the state decide what time bars have to close all across MA? For that matter, why did Newton need the legislature's approval to switch the name of its Board of Aldermen to a City Council? This is nuts - don't they have better things to do?!

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That is why we have asinine laws or have had asinine laws in the past like Boston could not appoint its own police commissioner. Boston has to have state members on various boards, etc.

The natives got scared of us bogtrotters ruining the state in the late 19th and early 20th century and imposed their will on us Papists. Curley almost proved them right in their actions but you are right. When some moron like Sen. Fattman of Webster or proven out and out anti-Irish American like Rep. Ellen Story of Amherst has sway over the minutiae of local government actions in a Mother May I fashion, it begs change.

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Come on, Will.

"None of those municipalities want that authority."

What does that even mean? This legislation didn't change their hours or wipe their current hours out and force them to come up with their own answer all of the sudden. It just let them choose to change the hours if they wanted to. Even if it did, all they'd have to do is pass an ordinance that says "we index our closing hours to the state's default" and still be at status quo. BUT if they did want to change it, then they could.

But, fine, kill this bill. Put a new one up that says *any* city in MA can set their own hours as they choose. Then all this goes away permanently. Why does the state need a consistent closing time? Why is this being crafted as Boston gets a pass, the rest of you are frightened rabbits that wouldn't know what to do if we gave you the power?

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You have a bunch of young folks and a few bar owners wanting this change. Put it on the ballot and it goes down in flames. Let hotels serve at all hours as a test project in Cities.

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First, what's a "normal person" in this context?

Secondly, you've put the cart before the horse. Put it on the ballot and nobody votes for it. Probably true. But your assumption as to why is that they don't "want" it. You may not want it, but that's not why it wouldn't be voted into action. It's because many people (especially the people that vote the most regularly) won't *use* it. It's not that they don't want it. I'm sure if they live close enough to a bar and they're having disrupted sleep already, it's because closing time is at 2 AM. It wouldn't matter if it's 4 AM when they were disturbed. Those are the people who don't "want" it.

Also, they'd be wrong. There are fewer patrons that will stay until 3 AM than will stay until 2 AM now and even fewer that will stay until 4 AM and so on. Instead of all of those same people leaving at 2 AM together and waking any neighbors that get bothered regularly, they'll trickle out in much smaller and quieter numbers.

Also, there are already rules in place to deal with people who are too drunk to control themselves and their noise in public. Enforce them. If people are too drunk to control themselves at 2 AM, they may even be more sober by 4 AM as they hit their limit at an earlier hour.

Finally, we act like Boston is SO mixed commercial/residential that we're a special snowflake. We're not. Cities across the globe have late night drinking and good qualities of life in highly mixed zoning. Let's stop the act that this will create havoc and hell throughout the hills.

So, no, we shouldn't vote on it. No, many people won't *use* it which disqualifies whether they want it or not. And no, it's not like we need to test it. We're not special and the world moves on just fine without rolling up the sidewalks at 2 AM in every city in the world.

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First, what's a "normal person" in this context?

Obviously, "people who agree with me."

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