Developer says work could finally begin on towers above South Station
Hines, which won approval in 2006 for a mixed-use development of four towers above the South Station train tracks, says work could finally begin on the project early next year.
In a new page on its Web site, first spotted by BLDUP.com, Hines says it's planning a 49-story, 970,000-square-foot office tower, a second office building about half that size, a 155-unit, 323-foot tall condo tower and a 200-room hotel, along with a garage with roughly 755 spaces, all fitting above the tracks and the bus terminal.
State and city officials first began talking about allowing towers to rise above the station in the 1970s - originally when the BRA won control of the station and proposed just knocking it down, a plan that Gov. Dukakis managed to nix.
Hines's 2006 plans, the most recent available on the BRA Web site, call for construction of the project in four phases, with the 49-story, 678-foot-tall office building going up first. Eventually, the plans call for a human hamster tube "sky street" along Atlantic Avenue to connect the buildings and the garage.
At the time, Hines estimated construction of the office tower would take three years - it originally proposed starting in 2007 - and construction of the residential tower two years, which would start after the office building was finished.
Hines also proposed paying to expand the South Station bus terminal and to make other improvements to the station, including making it easier for rail passengers to get to the bus station and improving ventilation along train platforms.
The Phase 1 Building has been designed to create a building of significant and lasting architectural merit which will be respectful of the South Station Head House Building. ...
The narrow, sculptural profile of the Phase I Building, as seen from Dewey Square facing the main entrance of South Station, minimizes obstruction of views and daylight. Material finishes for the exterior facade will be a taut glassy skin. Glass and metal canopies will identify entrances and provide pedestrian shelter along Atlantic Avenue.
The Phase 2 Building will have separate entrances for the residential component and the hotel component. The Phase 2 Building's two entrance lobbies will be located on Atlantic Avenne, between the Phase I Building entrance lobby and the Existing Bus Terminal bnilding, providing an activity generating function along Atlantic Avenue. The Phase 2 Building's hotel reception lobby and residential main lobby will be located one floor above on the Sky Street Level and accessed via shuttle elevators from the entrance lobbies. Most of the massing of the Phase 2 Building will be located above the Bus Terminal Expansion and the Project Parking Garage. The Phase 2 Building has been designed as two wings, one of which houses the residential component and one of which houses the hotel component. Exterior building materials for the Phase 2 Building will be determined during the course of the design review process.
Development outline for South Station towers (1.1M PDF).
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at least it's not another shoebox
The picture makes it look like they're going to gut the building, leaving nothing but the façade. But it's on the National Register of Historic Places, so can they even do that? Or am I looking at the picture wrong?
Oh, the station stays!
The buildings will be above the tracks, basically from where the station ends, filling the gap between the historic building and the bus terminal and then wrapping around and going over the bus terminal, at least, according to this map from the 2006 documents:
ah, thanks!
That's reassuring.
A great new Opera House in Boston/Cambridge !
What possible resources could design and build a great new Opera House in Boston/Cambridge !?
755 parking spaces?!?
Did these suburbanite developers forget where they were building? On top of the biggest rail & bus hub in New England!
The last thing this area needs is another 755 cars. And there's few excuses for driving here. I could see having a few spots for handicap parking and deliveries. But 755 spaces is completely outlandish! This is going to be a parking garage fortress, Dallas-style. Not at all appropriate to Boston.
How in the world is this idiotic design supposed to be "Transit-oriented"? What a joke. "Transit-oriented" gigantic parking garage.
There is a parking shortage
There is a parking shortage because so many of the transplants and new residents that always say how much they like public transit end up bringing their cars anyway. The people that will be living there and doing business there will not want to be relying on public transit often enough to not have parking spaces.
that's idiotic
Yes, there's hypocrites out there, but they'll be living in car-friendly places like Dedham. Not literally on top of South Station!
Oh, also, you're full of it. Most people in Boston don't drive to work.
Statistics?
Do you have any census data to share, or other statistics to back this up? It would be interesting to see how much of a problem this is (versus, say, people like my intern registering their car at their grandparents' place so they can get a parking sticker - said grandparents being long-time residents).
Parking
You do know South Station does have a small parking deck already, right?
If you read the plans, the parking is NOT for the residential tower, but will be MBTA parking for the general public. All this does is expand that existing space.
While I agree why build parking at such a major hub is stupid. But compare it Airport parking. Why do we build parking lots at airports.. so people can drive in from miles away, park, and take a plane somewhere. Same deal.
Of course the rates at the current garage are ridiculous so I can't imagine this being used much for that purpose.
You do know that every
You do know that every sarcastic internet post begins with "you do know", and ends with "right", right?
You do know
You do know that you're a jackass, right?
airports vs downtown train stations
By their nature, airports are in remote locations that are usually more difficult to access and have lots of empty land around them. Logan is a bit of an exception to that.
South Station is in the middle of Boston.
If you want to drive to a railroad station and park, that's what Route 128 is for. Driving to the middle of Boston and expecting a place to store your car for a long trip is utterly insane.
Expect to pay out big-time for the privilege, and don't whine.
Fumes
I was under the impression the reason why nothing is covering the tracks currently is so that the diesel exhaust has a place to go and people don't need to breath it in like in Back Bay station.
It says the plans include an
It says the plans include an improved ventilation system for the tracks.
It was because the salt in
It was because the salt in the air started to rust the original canopy almost as soon as it was built. It was the biggest in the world at the time, with plenty of room for the coal smoke and steam.
The shed
Some photos.
I like it
Not overly thrilled about a tower looming over the station from a nostalgic perspective - but the world moves on and that's a nice looking building.
What's that? Oh - I do hear a voice from beyond telling me that it needs a crown or sumpin'.
Great. Now can we get an update
on the negotiations to buy/relocate the USPS facility?
South Station MUST be expanded to keep up with the transit demand.
Will this project affect expansion plans?
As GE will be building across the channel, it is even more important to expand the terminal, close the USPS facility and reopen Dorchester Ave. to the public.
A cheaper alternative to
A cheaper alternative to expanding south station is what was done when the E line was shrunk and the many buses in Cambridge and Somerville that stop before getting into Boston. Just have commuter railers coming into Boston switch at the closest subway stop (Back Bay, Quincy), that way you eliminate the need for all commuter rail trains to go all the way into downtown, and save millions on expansion. Sure, it would mean commuter rail riders would be crushed like sardines on their way in, but that is what happens to people who have to take the 39 to Copley (cant go all the way downtown of course) or the 87 to Lechmere, the 57 to Kenmore. Its terrible, but it saves money for highway projects, and isnt that what real Americans like Sarah Palin and Baker think is most important?
This South Station building will be interesting.
This site is almost directly on the centerline extended for Runway 27 at Logan. It is also roughly 15 stories higher than the Federal Reserve Bank and to the left of it (from a Logan perspective). That is non-trivial because the current departure routes require a left turn off Runway 27 so as to avoid the downtown "wall". This building would take another chunk out of that usable airspace - whether it is too much remains to be seen. While the FAA cannot prevent construction (and wouldn't want to because they don't want to be sued for a regulatory taking), if their process determines this is a hazard to air navigation, it would essentially make the structure uninsurable and therefore unbuildable.
On another front, regardless of how you feel about any of the projects, construction of this building will almost certainly make a South Station expansion or a North-South rail link significantly more complicated. I also expect that would somehow affect South Station commuter rail and bus operations at least occasionally (despite the inevitable assurances to the contrary).
The has issued an approval
The has issued an approval for this tower to reach 677 feet as of February 2016.
WHO has issued an "approval"?
There was an important proper noun missing from your comment.
From a streetscape point of
From a streetscape point of view, I hope this improves the situation on Atlantic. Right now there's a perpetual gauntlet of aggressive panhandlers.
I also hope curbside parking is regulated properly. Right now it's pretty tricky to pick up an elderly relative arriving by train or bus, but I can usually get away with it if traffic is quiet. Adding a huge tower could make this worse.