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Dogs allowed back in JP dog park - except for those with professional dog walkers

Jamaica Plain News reports the MSPCA has re-opened its South Huntington Avenue dog park - but is now banning professional dog walkers following an incident in which one dog mauled another.

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Now the dog walkers will keep their focus on ruining Allandale Woods.

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Allendale Woods is being ruined by the BRA , greedy developers, and gentrification.

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but it hasn't happened yet. ZBA hearing at the end of September for their needed 53 variances.

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The same people that gentrified JP now dont want anything nearby to change or be developed, oh the irony. I love Allandale but its laughable at best to see houses surrounding it less than 10 years old with signs saying to respect zoning, bahahh, am I watching Portlandia?

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allows building within the regulations. Not sure what your point is. And this development falls under West Roxbury zoning not JP.

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What is with all of the dogs? Why are members of the under 35 set so much more apt to be dog owners than was the case with their parents' generation?

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So, a private citizen with 5 dogs is allowed but a professional dog walker walking one dog isn't?

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If a dog seriously attacked another dog (and is apparently a serial offender at other dog parks) then why isn't the dog/owner/dog walker being targeted specifically--fined, banned, muzzled, etc? This may reduce the MSPCA's risk but it doesn't really address the issue of a defiant owner/walker and a dangerous, dog-aggressive dog. And it seems unfair to responsible walkers. I've had numerous issues with dog walkers in Franklin Park--out of control dogs, not cleaning up--but I wouldn't want ALL walkers banned.

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I am a professional dog walker serving jp for over a decade. I do not use dog parks for my groups. However, I was walking by Angell last week and came upon this incident. I ran into the park and pulled the aggressive dogs legs out from under him, thereby getting him to release his jaws. Not ONE person, including techs or doctors from the hospital , knew this technique. Mary Grace, a top administrator from Angell, personally thanked me for intervening, as, in her words, the dog would probably not have lived. So, a professional dog walker saved the dogs life. What hypocrisy. I could care less about the dog park, they are fertile ground for inexperienced and irresponsible handlers. Please stop targeting professional walkers with your vitriol.

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I ran into the park and pulled the aggressive dogs legs out from under him, thereby getting him to release his jaws.

I've not heard of this technique. Are you grabbing the rear legs?

When the occasional tiff occurred at home, I would throw a blanket on my two causing distraction and kept my hands safe. But that's not an option at the park. lol

Do you think they're aiming the ban at dog walkers who have more than 3 or 4 dogs at a time? Suggesting that they can't keep an eye on that many at the same time? I"m curious and looking for dialog - not trying to troll.

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Pull the back legs directly out and up over the head. Gravity causes the dog to release. If that fails, stick your finger in the anus. I appreciate your comment, but after all these years of trying to have a dialogue with an increasingly entitled and hostile community, I am officially exhausted.

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Good to know that technique. I could have used it when my Basenji thought a mini poodle was a squeak toy.

And fair enough about the dialogue.

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Many dog walkers are responsible, well trained professionals, even certified vet techs or trainers. I'm glad you are one of them. But the problem of less responsible dog walkers causing a dog park to be overcrowded has been an issue in JP.

That aside, though, this is privately owned land, and Angell/MSPCA should be free to control it as they see fit.

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That MSPCA fenced-in dog area is really there for the benefit of the surrounding community and also people who are bringing dogs to MSPCA/Angell for whatever reason. Dog walkers using that area as a de facto part of their business has become a real issue in the last few years - it's come up before. That's why MSPCA previously closed the area in the late morning/early afternoon aka prime dog walker hours. This isn't a publicly-run dog park, it's private property and MSPCA doesn't want it to be there solely for walkers' commercial use. I don't blame them.

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"Dog walkers using that area as a de facto part of their business" is impacting not only MSPCA but also the neighborhoods around these dog walking businesses. The commercial dog walkers in Hyde Square are now bringing the dogs on our streets and the surrounding streets and having them urinate and defecate in this area. Dog owners should have to provide "dog toilet" areas for their dogs and not have them using the streets, parks, sidewalks, and other people's properties as their dog toilets.

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...they're called bike lanes.

(just trying gin up some controversy leading to higher traffic to help Adam here...nothing personal.)

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Are you serious or just having the worst day of your life? A dog toilet? Are you the same person complaining in the gazette about too many trees on the sidewalk? Im assuming these kids make under 100 a day and walk dogs that live in JP, everyone get off your dog hating horses, this shouldnt be an indictment of all dogs/dog walkers?! If a doctor or idk housekeeper acts in misconduct or steals that certainly doesnt mean we suddenly stop trusting all doctors or housekeepers? I thought JP was a liberal democrat area? Are people hating dog walkers cause its not right to dislike gays and minorities anymore? Why is wveyone frowning there now? What happened to artists and brown people there? Is this what was traded, hateful complaining yuppies who fancy themselves experts in everything but still call themselves liberals?

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I have no personal beef with dog walkers. They've shown themselves to me to be much more responsible than owners themselves.
But they don't walk in my neighborhood either and I find it hard to believe that many of them clean up after every dog after every function.

Heck, even if the clean the crap that's a lot of dog urine if they're walking somewhere daily.

As for equating dog owners to doctors or any other group?

Sheer nonsense.

Scumbag urban doing owners get the response they do here (and many other place online I'm sure) b/c they are in fact proven scum by their behavior.

This isn't bigotry or prejudice. I wasn't born hating dogs nor irresponsible owners.

I still love dogs but the couch owners have earned the hatred one selfish shit move at a time.

Except for outright criminals I can't think of more reprehensible members of our society.

I'd love to see these scofflaws face criminal charges:

30 days in jail for not cleaning up after your mutt. 6 months if it bites someone.

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The MSPCA could do some outreach, I mean the CEO makes a half million a year and pays the techs between 12-14/hr. If they want change then lead. They are the MSPCA after all. Hold some safety workshops, reach out to dog walkers and link the with the safewalk program to learn? Speak with Tails the neighbor around the corner? They are supposed to the voice right?

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I think the logic, flawed though it is, is that it's simplest to categorically ban a clearly defined group. But I agree with others that it shows prejudice. And it seems like something easier to enforce, on both a spot-checking basis by the MSPCA and by individuals using the park, would be a policy like "no more than 2 dogs may enter with one person." (If the desired result is to maximize human oversight of the dogs, which I'm assuming is what's behind the ban.) How exactly does one prove or disprove on the spot that one is a professional dog walker? It's easy enough to see whether someone has too many dogs with them, though.

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The policy is stated on the sign that no more than 3 dogs per person at one time. The area is also closed from 10 am - 3 pm. This is all in the article linked in the post. Reminder that this is private property and not a public park. They don't have to open this to the public at all if they don't want to.

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Just what qualifications does one need to become a "professional " dog walker anyway?

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I am licensed, bonded, and insured. I am a certified trainer, and have fifteen years of experience walking all breeds. Good enough? Try not to be so passive aggressively condescending.

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My apologies if I offended you. And, assuming your background and training are typical of others in the field (no pun intended), that seems to make the new "no professional dog walkers" rule even more inexplicable.

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What was so "passive aggressively condescending" about that?

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Geesh?! Funny question from JP, the area of 'working professionals' also known as we are better than you because my clothes are more expensive. hmmmm ok an example, My brother and I cleaned the apartment, since I wanted it to look good I called a PROFESSIONAL.

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My goodness, you're batting a thousand with the rambling cranky rants today. Is this going to be your usual style of posting?

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