NorthEndWaterfront.com reports. In 2016, the city reduced the default city speed limit from 30 to 25. You may recall that before the city did that, councilors approved a reduction to 20 but were stymied by state law. Councilors say that today, as then, the issue is safety - for pedestrians, bicyclists and drivers themselves.
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Enforcement
By TetOn
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:21am
Obligatory comment that they could reduce it to 0.000001 mph, but if they don't enforce the posted speed limit, nothing will ever change. Cars routinely travel at ≥40mph down tight, residential streets, sometimes achieving lift-off on our street. Start issuing tickets.
The cops do nothing. They are
By Kinopio
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:33am
The cops do nothing. They are useless. Actually they are worse than useless because they are taking a six figure salary away from tax payers to do nothing. You will only see them issue tickets once another criminal driver kills another two year old on a sidewalk. Even then it will be only on one street for a couple weeks. Meanwhile criminal drivers are flagrantly breaking the law and injuring and killing people all over the city on a regular basis.
With all that said, I still strongly support the 20 MPH speed limit. It will help somewhat and when auto driving cars become popular we need to make sure the law states that they cannot go over that limit. Having a law abiding vehicle in front of them will slow down the criminal drivers.
You have no idea what they do.
By Pete Nice
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:55am
And it is because of people like Kinopio why police don't issue tickets like they used to. Afraid of complaints for BS stuff. Thanks for making everyone unsafe Kinopio.
FYI traffic citations down 54% in the past 5 years in Boston from about 55K to 26K.
I have an idea what they do
By Red
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 12:14pm
I have an idea what they do. I have heard they have one cop per shift per station for traffic. That cop has a relatively low quota.
When they added L Street patrols after the death of the child, they used detail/OT to pay for the extra patrols.
Traffic enforcement is not considered a routine of BPD or even state police - all paid with federal grants and detail/OT pay. Another Massachusetts peculiarity. Same as they automatically give points to your DL which automatically increases insurance payments for years (maybe this double financial hit is also contributing to low enforcement as even police are sympathetic to the financial burden imposed by one speeding ticket).
Now I still think lowering from 25 to 20 is overall silly. Especially on wide streets such as Old Colony, Summer St (between 1st and Fort Point Channel), American Legion Hwy, Washington St in West Rox, Columbia Road, Blue Hill Ave, Rutherford Ave, and so on. Some streets need to be reserved for more traffic with reasonably higher speeds to move them (30-35, maybe even 40).
Lack enforcement is the problem. And lack of speed limit signs - another stupid state law that you are not supposed to post the defaco speed limit . Change that law too!
You're right, I have no idea what they do
By Michael
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 12:46pm
But it's something I often wonder while I, an untrained civilian, am standing at a bus stop or walking down the street and see countless red light runners and texters go flying by.
Hope by "runners" you are including cyclists
By Miaow
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 2:39pm
Every morning as I wait for my bus, I watch cyclists run through the red lights on Mass Ave.
Funny thing about that
By Michael
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 4:30pm
If one of them hits you, they go down too and probably nobody dies. If a car hits you, maybe you die and chances are nothing will ever happen to the driver.
Funny thing about that
By city pedestrian
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 4:37pm
If you would stop your bike at red lights, stop signs and yield to pedestrians in crosswalks as YOU are legally required to do, maybe we would all have a less stressful commute. Setting the bar at 'well if I hit you with my bike you won't die' is a rather low bar to set. Take a deep breath: people who walk and take the bus aren't your enemy.
Not even a biker, man
By Michael
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 6:27pm
But the amount of ire directed towards them compared to the vast numbers of imcompetent and dangerous drivers out there regularly is amazing to me.
Not defending the average
By Rob
Sun, 11/18/2018 - 7:30pm
Not defending the average Masshole idiot car driver, but...
As people are fond of repeating here when the "registration/gas/cost of roads/use of roads" or "test, license & ticket bicyclists" trope flags are raised - bicyclists on the road (aka bike drivers) are overwhelmingly adults, taxpayers, car owners who just don't happen to be using their car all of the time, are licensed car drivers already, etc... Which is true.
Unfortunately, the companion piece of ugly truth is that bicyclists are from that same pool of crappy Masshole idiot drivers. Aggressive, rude, impatient (so are a lot of other places in the country) but also with a sense of entitlement (which sometimes exceeds their sense of traffic law or physics) and unfortunately prone to maneuvers that are "creative" (or to put it more accurately - random and/or arbitrary and/or from somewhere out beyond Left Field). Put them on a bicycle and too many of them think "I'm quick, I'm nimble, I can squeeze through anywhere, I don't have to stop, etc..."
Sure, there are "vast numbers" of bad drivers behind the wheel of a car. By percentage, though, I see much more bad behavior from bike drivers
Red-light runners? Sure, car drivers who speed up, push their approach past any point of safety through yellow and even the beginning of red are a problem, just as those on bicycle who do so. But - only someone on a bicycle passes five full-stopped cars without slowing to run a signal that's been red already for 10, 20, 30, 60 seconds - and I see THAT almost every day.
...and I absolutely reject the ridiculous "bicycles/bicyclists hardly kill anyone like cars/trucks do" canards. Cyclists cause crashes just the same as motorists do. Mass, rigid frames/bodies, and transfer of energy/momentum and all the rest of the physics may mean that the car generally wins and the bike generally loses - but it's the behavior of the operator (inattentive, reckless, aggressive) that creates the crash.
false equivilance
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 11/19/2018 - 10:47am
There is bias against cyclist that makes it difficult to evaluate your claim that cyclist cause crashes just the same as motorists do. What ever mistakes I make as a cyclist, I don't crash into things because I am going slow enough to stop.
Wow.
By Rob
Mon, 11/19/2018 - 2:14pm
Wow.
So... a car driver is reckless or dangerous or whatever sort of grievous malfeasance, but with you and your bike it would have been "a mistake".
...because along with it being only a "mistake", YOU'RE going "slow enough to stop", so you won't hit anything. Right. As if "mistakes" don't put you in dangerous spots that how quickly you can stop (even if it is actually as quickly as you think) doesn't get you out of danger. Or put somebody else in danger because you created a situation then stopped and they have to do something dangerous to avoid you or it.
"I'm going slow enough to stop" Hopefully nobody will ever have to bury you under those self-assured words, cin, right between the coffee-klatsch I sat beside last week (that was talking about they don't like expressway driving so they slow down whatever lane they're in to a speed they're comfortable with) and the "I don't wear a seatbelt while driving because _____ (whatever fill-in-the-blank excuse) and I always remain in control" crowd.
Just tell me you're not professionally employed teaching bike safety to children, please.
Very insecure
By cinnamngrl
Tue, 11/20/2018 - 11:46am
Bicycles are easy to control because they are slower. Cars require more control and responsibility to operate safely. Comparing the responsibility of both doesn’t make sense. That is not an attack on drivers.
Bicycles don’t cause the same amount of crashes that cars, that’s just stupid. But that doesn’t mean that it is ok ride carelessly. It just means equivocating is dishonest.
I'll try one more time.
By Rob
Tue, 11/20/2018 - 7:11pm
I'll try one more time.
oh.... where to start?
"Bicycles are easy to control because they are slower."
Even though a car's max speed is much higher than a bike's, there are frequent situations especially on city streets) where bicycles are moving faster than cars - such as congested traffic or lines at red lights (as I mentioned above) and weaving around cars (and running red lights).
There are circumstances (weaving/turns, wet pavement) where a two-wheeled conveyance is less stable and therefore more difficult to control than a four-wheeled conveyance going the same speed.
"Cars require more control and responsibility to operate safely. Comparing the responsibility of both doesn’t make sense. "
When the operators of both have to share the same road, it sure as hell makes sense to discuss the identical responsibility (and disparate typical failings) of both groups.
"Bicycles don’t cause the same amount of crashes that cars, that’s just stupid."
I flat out stated that they didn't, but that percentage-wise bicyclists are more frequent offenders. Read carefully. Don't try to bullshit.
"But that doesn’t mean that it is ok ride carelessly. "
If you agree that carelessness is a problem, why are you arguing when I describe careless behavior?
"It just means equivocating is dishonest."
I wasn't equivocating. I was speaking quite plainly and directly.
That's the last from me, as this thread has reached an important viability threshold. Not Godwin's Law or any subtopic equivalent - just the one that if when viewed on my smartphone, the nested posts reduce the column width of comments to six characters or less, it's time to pack it in.
Have a good Thanksgiving
So convoluted it is just plain lying.
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 11/21/2018 - 11:12am
Getting held up in traffic does not equalize the speed of bicycles and cars. People driving in traffic seem to be ( not scientifically proven) much more dangerous because they break more traffic laws in there desperation to "win" at traffic.
Bringing up random road damage does not prove that bicycles are less stable than cars. Do you have some statistics on this? Unless you are using a thin wheeled racing cycle, you can handle potholes, wet pavement, and all other etc.
Ok, to parse this correctly, You acknowledge that cars cause more crashes that cycles. But you say that in all crashes involving a bicycle the cyclist is more likely to be at fault. Bias, and Bullshit. Do you have stats on that one?
You accused me of giving cyclists permission to drive carelessly previously, and I am not. But that does not mean that cyclists are equally responsible for poor driving in Boston or that agree with your dishonest drivel.
American drivers kill 35,000
By Kinopio
Sun, 11/18/2018 - 3:05am
American drivers kill 35,000 per year but you don't care. You are only concerned with the harmless cyclists. That is incredibly messed up. Were your parents sociopathic too?
Afraid of complaints?
By spin_o_rama
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:07pm
I'm sorry that BPD is has had their feelings hurt too much to do anything about the way people drive around here, boo hoo. How is that Kinopio's fault?
Those stats aren't really helping instill confidence for the police to keep us safe, no clue what you're trying to prove there.
No really, what do they do aside from roll past violation after violation after violation?
I'm not trying to prove anything.
By Pete Nice
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:51pm
Just giving you information.
What a load of horseshit
By Scratchie
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:24pm
Waah! You were mean to us, so we're not going to do our job!
If I tried that at my job, I'd be shown the door.
Funny, though, I never really got the impression that police officers were really all that concerned with what civilians thought of the work they were doing. If cops actually wanted to write tickets, they would do it. And if they were doing their job correctly, they would have no reason to be "afraid of complaints for BS stuff".
Small part of their job.
By Pete Nice
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:56pm
And it is still being done, just not to your satisfaction. A lot of cops love to write tickets. But there is a lot of pressure on them not to, and it is time consuming in a department with a high call volume.
You've never had a BS complaint against you, so you have no idea. If you were a cop Scratchie, you would. Maybe that is why those cops get paid so much, because people like you and Kinipio (making it a low demand job) don't want to do it.
Thanks!
So you're saying
By Scratchie
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 2:05pm
So you're saying that there's pressure (presumably from their superiors) not to enforce the law and not to improve public safety?
Sounds like the cops just don't want to deal with complaints. Well, suck it up, buttercup, that's part of the job. If doing the entire job is too much work for them to earn their six-figure salaries, they're quite welcome to take a job in my industry. We're hiring.
I'ts both
By Pete Nice
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 2:11pm
Standard labor theory (See the Hawthorne Studies), and some cops don't want to deal with complaints. And they probably don't want to work in your industry, but if your industry paid more, throw it out there, I'm sure many of them would love to join. (I don't know what that is).
His "industry" is probably...
By Karl
Sat, 11/17/2018 - 9:28am
the same one that sells the Zakim bridge online...
Traffic citations are down
By Kinopio
Sun, 11/18/2018 - 3:02am
Traffic citations are down because cops are too lazy to write them. Thanks for proving my point, dummy.
Lol
By Pete Nice
Sun, 11/18/2018 - 5:00pm
No, the laziest cops are the ones who do nothing but traffic enforcement because they want to go to court and get time off and sit in court all day and are afraid of answering actual police calls. Lol dummy.
cool approach
By Roztonian
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:55am
cops do nothing - cops are useless,....biased trolling much?
good lord
tip - when expressing an opinion or point, try not to marginalize an entire group of people at the outset.
Agreed on all counts. To make
By jpnik
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 12:05pm
Agreed on all counts. To make matters worse, I've encountered a bunch of police officers who did not know basic traffic laws. I was once signaling a turn on a bicycle (shocking - a cyclist signalling!!!) and the duty officer watching the street asked what that arm motion meant (it's in the friggin' driver's manual).
USELESS????
By Stephen Bickerton Sr
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 6:24pm
Next time you need help dial 411 rather than 911
I'm not surprised you are a
By Kinopio
Sun, 11/18/2018 - 3:15am
I'm not surprised you are a blue lives matter loser. You gave your kid the same name as yourself. Do you know what the point of names are? To differentiate people! You were too dumb to think come up with a name that wasn't your own!
Not only do speed limits have to be posted, but they have to be
By mplo
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 9:20pm
enforced, as well. The fact that the posted speed limits are not enforced is why there's so much anarchy on our streets.
Let's just keep lowering it
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:26am
Let's just keep lowering it by 5mph so we can all pat ourselves on the back!
How about instead we enforce traffic laws and get dangerous drivers off the road?
This undermines the value of laws
By Gary C
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:26am
I agree with the above post that only enforcement will make anything change. I don't like to see laws on the books that are impractical, as they dilute the value of all the other sensible laws. There are locations were 20 mph makes sense, but for much of the city that is simply ridiculous.
The only ridiculous thing is
By Kinopio
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:38am
The only ridiculous thing is allowing drivers to speed through the city at 40MPH. There is no need for that. Peoples lives are more important than the convenience of those who insist on driving in a dense, walkable city with adequate public transit. It is sad that anyone would argue otherwise. Study after study shows that low speeds save lives.
I agree with Kinopio
By Stevil
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:44am
the speed limit in Boston should be zero!
/s
Adequate public transit, you
By Milwaukee Mike
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:36pm
Adequate public transit, you say?
Beat me too it
By ChrisInEastie
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:45pm
He's really playing it fast and loose with that word.
Not too fast I hope,
By Milwaukee Mike
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:54pm
Not too fast I hope, otherwise he should be cited.
Don't worry, he won't be going too fast
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 7:21pm
Not if he's on public transportation, that's for sure.
Then the speed limit shouldn
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 9:32pm
Then the speed limit shouldn't be 40.
Wait, it already isn't.
Not quite
By adamg
Sat, 11/17/2018 - 10:34am
The city speed limit doesn't apply to state roads, such as the West Roxbury Parkway, where the speed limit is still 40, at least between Belgrade Avenue and Washington Street.
It's also still 40 on Washington Street, at least northbound from roughly Grove to West Roxbury Parkway.
Why are our city councilors so out of touch?
By Dave-from-Boston
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:35am
The issue, as aptly & repeatedly pointed out, is enforcement of existing laws. Invite the top BPD brass to your next meeting and ask them why very little speed and traffic enforcement takes place. Hey, better yet, have some stats to re-enforce your regulatory initiative - say for example - what facts does the council have to support the need to lower speed limit again? Present those facts to BPD and ask them to respond - next, give them 6 months to demonstrate increased enforcement and report back to the council their progress.
This ain't rocket science folks!
This isn't about writing tickets
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:47am
This is about road design.
If the speed limit is 20, they can design the streets and intersections to limit travel speed.
If the speed limit is 30, they can't design for 20mph.
You keep saying this every
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 9:33pm
You keep saying this every time this topic comes up. But Boston has been installing speed humps for years, with a design speed way less than 25 or 30.
Voter apathy has allowed
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 12:05pm
Voter apathy has allowed relatively incompetent people to get themselves elected to the council where they do little besides tilt at windmills and pass nanny ordinances to ineffectively curtail things they personally dislike while the city at large is essentially run as a feudal state by the mayor and his department heads.
How many councilors walk, bike or take the MBTA to work? How many councilors held a middle class job making 50k a year in the city? How many councilors had or have children in non-exam BPS schools? How many councilors didn't move from one government internship or job to the next? I rest my case.
Thank you
By Will LaTulippe
Sat, 11/17/2018 - 3:44pm
Glad I'm not the only person willing to blame the electorate for our problems.
They're too chicken
By Red
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 12:19pm
They're too chicken to confront the BPD union. And the union will fight it or demand a lot more $$.
Why don't we have automated speed enforcement?
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 12:39pm
BPD doesn't have the manpower to increase enforcement of traffic because of the amount of crashes in the city. From Nov 14th 12am to Nov 15th 4pm, there were 31 motor vehicle crashes reported by the Boston Police. Remember, that does not include statie reports or exchanged papers.
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/08/29/study-lower...
https://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/speed-c...
http://whatworksforhealth.wisc.edu/program.php?t1=...
Automated speed enforcement works. It lowers speeds when people know its there and the crashes that happen are less deadly.
You can't blame the BPD for lack of enforcement when bad drivers keep them running from crash to crash. By the way, in 13 of those crashes the driver left the scene (2 of which included injury to a person).
Speed bumps and closing streets to motor traffic would also reduce the burden of enforcement.
That would help, but it's not enough
By Gary C
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:31pm
Speed cameras do work, although you can't put them all over the place and once people know where they are, they just slow down for the camera and then speed back up once passed.
When they used to regularly have cops on traffic duty, I would be a lot less likely to roll through a stop sign or maybe go faster than I should down a neighborhood street. It's the surprise factor plus seeing others getting pulled over that keeps people (well me anyway) from getting blasé about obeying the letter of the law.
What If The Cameras Could Be All Over The Place
By BlackKat
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:56pm
By using autonomous camera drones instead of fixed installation speed cameras?
Incidentally in Brookline, which granted has less felony crime overall to occupy their police, you can count on multiple cars spending most of the day hiding around corners from stop signs and such, looking for violators.
Very true
By Gary C
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 2:03pm
And as a result, when I venture over the border into Brookline, I'm more careful about my speed.
Don't speed. Just double park
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 2:49pm
Brookline's finest routinely ignore double parked cars or cars parked in bike lanes. Don't speed, and make sure you yield to walking people in front of Coolidge Corner Theater. Also, feed your meter and don't violate the 2 hour limits curbside.
But don't worry about live parking violations. You won't be ticketed.
wat?
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 5:02pm
https://imgur.com/gallery/2nbwwzv
read the research and articles I linked, Gary C.
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 3:09pm
Facts say you don't have to put them everywhere. There is a program that notifies drivers of a speed enforced districts and moves the cameras around randomly.
The truth is people are just selfish.
well, enforcing traffic is
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:59pm
well, enforcing traffic is one of the few parts of police work that actually brings money in. I'd support hiring more officers if their entire 8 hours was devoted to writing ticket after ticket, busting speeders (and double parking, and blocking the box, and illegally parking). however, excuse me for believing it's not just a case of manpower -- as I stood out in the street this morning, waiting for the bus, because there was a cop car parked squarely in the stop and blocking the driver from seeing me.
Can we stop linking enforcement to revenue
By roadman
Sat, 11/17/2018 - 11:05am
Because once you consider revenue, your enforcement is tainted. And speed limits should ALWAYS be based on an engineering study (google 85th percentile), and not what some random politicians arbitrarily decide is "best" fro everyone.
Want traffic to go slower, than rebuild the streets so they are forced to go slower. Then post a lower limit. But this proposal, just like the "make everything 25" idiocy they forced through the Legislature, will not work because, on most roads, it's TOO LOW to be practically enforced.
Good.
By Logan
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:38am
Maybe at 20 they will finally go 30...
speedbumps
By Roztonian
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 11:57am
We have been fighting with the city for years to lower / enforce the speeding on our street.
Nothing has been done.
If they would install a speed bump (which they will not do) the problem would be solved immediately.
speedbumps are useless
By anon
Sat, 11/17/2018 - 4:49pm
Accelerate hard right before hitting the bump. This lifts up the front end, and you'll glide right over it. Kind of like doing a wheelie on a motorbike.
This conversation
By Luke Warm
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 12:12pm
as historians will one day decide, is actually about the nascent topic of banning cars (as we know them) from Boston.
you're welcome!
I remember
By tmrozzie
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:36pm
a neighborhood meeting a few years back that included a city councilor and BPD liaison. When neighbors complained about people driving too fast and asking for more enforcement, their response was basically:
"You don't really want us to put a cruiser at these intersections, because most of the time they'll just end up ticketing one of you or a neighbor."
For the life of me I don't understand why they felt that was a bad thing. I don't give a rat's arse where someone lives when they're doing 40mph down a narrow residential street.
What if *you* get a ticket
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 9:35pm
What if *you* get a ticket for going 25 down a wide residential street?
Sane planning would help, too
By Perry D
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:43pm
I commute several times per week down the Jamaica Way and Riverway. It is an absolute nightmare. Just a few improvements off the top of my head:
And while I'm ranting, close Commonwealth Ave to vehicle traffic from Kenmore to Packard's Corner, especially Uber /Lyft vehicles. In fact, you could probably get away with keeping Comm Ave open as long as Uber / Lyft are blocked by some sort of force field. Pepsi trucks, too.
Great ideas all.
By Pfhlick
Sat, 11/17/2018 - 7:43am
Great ideas all.
Never understood why striping is allowed to fall into such a poor state. Is the paint that frigging expensive?? Drivers are much better behaved when driving is predictable for them - so we need lane markings going through not just up to intersections and we need them put down fresh when they get worn of by a winter's worth of salt and sand.
Pain Upkeep
By Donna Dee
Sat, 11/17/2018 - 11:13am
Agreed! Crosswalks are regularly allowed to disappear, making it even more dangerous to cross streets around here.
Use Commonsense - not that common
By Alex321
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 1:59pm
You can't avoid pedestrians jumping in the roads like they own it, like their parents never thought them how to cross a street or a bicyclist who's in and out of traffic with no care, this is not your quite neighborhood.... start paying some excise taxes, get a bike license plate, get a license to ride a bike and maybe even a training how to ride in traffic before putting them on the road, before criticizing the people that drive and pay stupid money for insurances etc. Start paying and then you'll can talk.....
bicyclist pay more than their share of taxes
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 4:32pm
don't fall that dishonest argument.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...
huh?
By Michael
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 4:36pm
paying taxes and getting licenses hasn't made drivers any better, so how would it work for bikes?
training how to ride in traffic
By zetag
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 5:13pm
Would that test be like the 15 minute version that you have to only take once in your life to get behind the wheel of multi-ton motor vehicle? And also, if you're paying "stupid money" for insurance it means that you're a bad driver.
Field of Vision
By NorthEnd3r
Mon, 11/19/2018 - 9:46am
Pedestrians only appear to "jump into the road" when someone is driving too quickly. At higher speeds your field of vision narrows, so a pedestrian who you would easily see at lower speeds is no longer visible. So when you're zipping down our streets, you only see the pedestrian at the last possible second even though they may have been crossing the street long before you noticed them.
Details: https://nacto.org/publication/urban-street-design-...
Starting to get ridiculous...
By anon
Fri, 11/16/2018 - 2:22pm
What's next 15, 10 citywide? There are places in the city where 20 MPH is warranted and places where it is much slower than necessary. People will not obey the limit where they know it is clearly ridiculous. This just leads to lack of respect for the law and encourages ignoring the speed limit in general. And as has been mentioned in other comments, no matter how low the limit is, it doesn't do any good if it is not enforced.
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