I also called Kinopio a hater a few weeks ago but my post never made it online, probably because I am anon. But regardless, there is a serious issue with this poster. He really needs to stop. Being against space savers is one thing. But the vitriol he'she/it spews is uncalled for. Kinopio is the typical troll. Usually nothing useful to contribute, just throwing stones, using anonymity as a shield. It's a coward.
I will use my spacesaver if and when necessary, as will all of my neighbors. We have no problem with it and we dont care what you and some quack psychiatrist have to say.
He's not. He just never shoveled his own space. My (newly moved in over the summer) neighbor dug a space then threw an old blanket on it. It was pretty funny.
The psychologist (she, by the way) is quoted as follows-
Space-saving, says Kamin, is different: “People do all this arduous work and someone else reaps the benefits. They feel a pretty intense sense of injustice about that.”
So what? Anyone who digs out their car is digging out their car. The amount of work it takes does not entitle you to own public property. Owning private property for your car entitles you to own a space.
Don't tell anyone, but after it snows, I go and walk around the city on sidewalks that other people have cleared. I don't even clear the one in front of my building. We pay someone to do it. I've put in ZERO effort and I get ALL the reward! Muah ha ha ha!
Boston and other cities here in the Commonwealth should just simply step up to the plate and do a better job of snow removal. That would put an end to people resorting to the childish, immature habit of space-saving. It's amazing how people act like spoiled brats when it comes to parking spaces.
Tends towards one side, but is fair to all sides. Even the psychologist gets the idea of what goes through people's minds, despite what someone commented here about her statement. I hope people read the article end to end.
And like the majority of Boston residents, I agree that those who cannot accept the general order of things and decide that the hard work of others is theirs to enjoy rather than shoveling a space out themselves are being childish in that children often take what is not theirs.
That said, the article does note both sides of the debate, which is what makes it a good article. You might want to read the article to get a good view of both sides.
They enjoy their own hard work. They get to drive their car. The person who uses the public space next also is injoying their own hard work. They shoveled their car out.
You are consistently ignoring the simple reality that you don't own the public street, and your "hard work" is no harder or easier than the "hard work" another person put in to free their car.
This behavior is not limited to space saving. There are people across Boston that will come outside and yell at you for parking
In front of their house, regardless of weather. I’ve seen 2 people who go around the neighborhood collecting cans get into a physical altercations over their “territory”.
How is this any different than parking your car in any space that is not your private property and having to shovel it out after it snows? If you go to mall and it's snowing out, when you leave, you may have to shovel your car out. Other people can then use that space.
I used to park my car in a private lot where the spaces were not reserved. You just parked in any space. So when it snowed, I'd have to dig my car out. When I got back, I may end up in that space again, or I may end up using a different one. I never thought twice about this.
Why do people become so irrational when it comes to parking on a public street? I honestly don't understand.
The fact that people do get totally irrational when it comes to parking on a public street that everybody pays taxes for the upkeep of is totally out of line.
It's amazing that people act like immature, spoiled brats when it comes to parking on public streets. They're like children when they can't get the new toys they want, or who've been told that they can't eat too many candies or whatever.
Comments
The psychologist in the
By Kinopio
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 1:17pm
The psychologist in the article who compares space saver nut jobs to "non-human animals" is definitely on the right track.
Man, you are just a hater
By Parkwayne
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 1:36pm
I legit think you seem to hate a lot of people in the same way that leads to ethnic cleanings. Go hug somebody.
Thats interesting
By anon
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:05pm
I also called Kinopio a hater a few weeks ago but my post never made it online, probably because I am anon. But regardless, there is a serious issue with this poster. He really needs to stop. Being against space savers is one thing. But the vitriol he'she/it spews is uncalled for. Kinopio is the typical troll. Usually nothing useful to contribute, just throwing stones, using anonymity as a shield. It's a coward.
"anon" says someone is using anonymity as a shield....
By Doug1001
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 8:52pm
I see what you did there....
Racist?
By bannedinboston
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 7:01pm
What are ethnic cleanings?
Hey K
By anon
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:09pm
I will use my spacesaver if and when necessary, as will all of my neighbors. We have no problem with it and we dont care what you and some quack psychiatrist have to say.
Nope.
By dmcboston
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:16pm
He's not. He just never shoveled his own space. My (newly moved in over the summer) neighbor dug a space then threw an old blanket on it. It was pretty funny.
You don't shovel spaces
By anon
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:30pm
You dig your own car out. Then you leave the public space. Then it is public.
Space saving is a childish maladaptation of car culture.
You all should read the article
By Waquiot
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 3:06pm
The psychologist (she, by the way) is quoted as follows-
Again, a good, balanced article.
I do all sorts of arduous work, too
By anon
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 3:33pm
So what? Anyone who digs out their car is digging out their car. The amount of work it takes does not entitle you to own public property. Owning private property for your car entitles you to own a space.
Don't tell anyone, but after
By cden4
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 12:27pm
Don't tell anyone, but after it snows, I go and walk around the city on sidewalks that other people have cleared. I don't even clear the one in front of my building. We pay someone to do it. I've put in ZERO effort and I get ALL the reward! Muah ha ha ha!
No. I think the city just
By Metoo
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:19pm
No. I think the city just needs to remove the snow so that people don’t have to resort to space saving. Simple as that
How much will YOU pay?
By anon
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 3:32pm
How much will YOU pay?
That's the best way to go!
By mplo
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 2:15pm
Boston and other cities here in the Commonwealth should just simply step up to the plate and do a better job of snow removal. That would put an end to people resorting to the childish, immature habit of space-saving. It's amazing how people act like spoiled brats when it comes to parking spaces.
Okay then!
By anon
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 2:30pm
Surcharge on all automobile excise tax bills for snow removal! $500 each should do the trick.
Decent enough of an article
By Waquiot
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:05pm
Tends towards one side, but is fair to all sides. Even the psychologist gets the idea of what goes through people's minds, despite what someone commented here about her statement. I hope people read the article end to end.
One side?
By anon
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 11:13am
Science doesn't have two sides. If one side is being childish, science will say that one side is being childish.
Yes, one side is being childish
By Waquiot
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 3:16pm
And like the majority of Boston residents, I agree that those who cannot accept the general order of things and decide that the hard work of others is theirs to enjoy rather than shoveling a space out themselves are being childish in that children often take what is not theirs.
That said, the article does note both sides of the debate, which is what makes it a good article. You might want to read the article to get a good view of both sides.
Hard work of others?
By anon
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 3:25pm
They enjoy their own hard work. They get to drive their car. The person who uses the public space next also is injoying their own hard work. They shoveled their car out.
You are consistently ignoring the simple reality that you don't own the public street, and your "hard work" is no harder or easier than the "hard work" another person put in to free their car.
You need to get out more.
You need to talk to more Bostonians
By Waquiot
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 6:40pm
The practice, per a 2015 poll, is overwhelmingly popular.
Also, try shoveling out a spot after a major snow storm. Then we can talk (writes the guy who has never saved a space but has shoveled out cars.)
This behavior is not limited
By Lmo
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:37pm
This behavior is not limited to space saving. There are people across Boston that will come outside and yell at you for parking
In front of their house, regardless of weather. I’ve seen 2 people who go around the neighborhood collecting cans get into a physical altercations over their “territory”.
!
By Heather
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 2:52pm
Steve Holt!
Thought the same thing!
By Lmo
Mon, 01/22/2018 - 3:13pm
Thought the same thing!
How is this any different
By cden4
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 12:30pm
How is this any different than parking your car in any space that is not your private property and having to shovel it out after it snows? If you go to mall and it's snowing out, when you leave, you may have to shovel your car out. Other people can then use that space.
I used to park my car in a private lot where the spaces were not reserved. You just parked in any space. So when it snowed, I'd have to dig my car out. When I got back, I may end up in that space again, or I may end up using a different one. I never thought twice about this.
Why do people become so irrational when it comes to parking on a public street? I honestly don't understand.
That's a good question, cden4.
By mplo
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 2:13pm
The fact that people do get totally irrational when it comes to parking on a public street that everybody pays taxes for the upkeep of is totally out of line.
Because they want gratitude, and they want it right away.
By mplo
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 2:24pm
It's amazing that people act like immature, spoiled brats when it comes to parking on public streets. They're like children when they can't get the new toys they want, or who've been told that they can't eat too many candies or whatever.
If you can't understand it
By Waquiot
Tue, 01/23/2018 - 3:17pm
You might want to read the article.
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