By adamg on Wed., 9/25/2019 - 8:56 pm
Streetsblog Mass reports the T pulled the trains from service because of a problem with the doors. But no worries, yet: The T adds the trains should be back running on Monday and that the manufacturer is, of course, paying for the work.
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What an embarrassing roll out
By Kinopio
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 10:16pm
What an embarrassing roll out for the orange line by the mbta so far. They didn't catch this in the many months(!) they had the first train? It's like the governor never rode the subway before or something...
In hindsight
By Waquiot
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 10:32pm
Gov. Baker might have been wise not to ride that train.
A safety problem with a
By anon
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 10:45pm
A safety problem with a product engineered in China?
Naw....
Second look at Kinki Sharyo? Anyone please? Those nice people in Japan know how to build trains that last.
In fairness
By roadman
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 8:30am
I would doubt the testing protocol for the new trains called for opening and closing the doors as frequently as they would be in two weeks of revenue service. And I'm pretty sure there's no reliable way to simulate crush loads where people are leaning against the doors, or people who put their hand/leg/etc into the door as it's within an inch or two of completely closing, forcing the door to snap open.
That having been said, there's something inheritetly wrong with a door design where the failure of a relatively minor component (bump stop) causes the door to suddenly open while the train is moving. Wonder how detailed the door portion of the T's plans and specifications was.
Could be worse though. Remember the Boeing LRVs, with their 800 parts per pair of doors, and how the doors would randomly open and close and open and close, etc continually until the power was cut.
Since you mentioned it ...
By adamg
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 9:12am
What exactly is a bump stop?
Bump stop
By JonT
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 10:45am
Aren't bump stops banned in Massachusetts? I thought I heard something along those lines.
Door testing
By anon
Fri, 09/27/2019 - 8:00am
If only there were a way to test opening and closing a door over and over again.
Oh wait...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcqxFchl0os
Under Baker everything is rushed and half-baked
By anon
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 12:01pm
This rollout is the least of our worries. Think of all the new construction that has been or is being done at break-neck speed with little oversight - Government Ctr Sta, Wollaston Sta, GLX, South Coast. And when will we find out about the issues? only after a fatality or fatalities
Wollaston
By Laura82
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 3:10pm
It opened last month, and the escalator was already broken today. And for some reason there isn't even an escalator to the platform. It leads to a random upper level, from which passengers then walk down two flights of stairs. No one has yet explained this design rationale in a station that was torn down and rebuilt to be ADA compliant (they did add elevators).
Fare gates were broken yesterday, and one of the countdown clocks has been broken since the first week.
Escalators have very little
By Rob
Fri, 09/27/2019 - 9:47am
Escalators have very little to do with ADA.
Government Center, GLX, South Coast
By Waquiot
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 6:31pm
These are all projects that were well under way before Charlie took the oath in 2015.
Actually Patrick postponed GLX+SCR building for 8 straight years
By anon
Mon, 09/30/2019 - 1:44pm
Patrick also rejected Pollack multiple times for the transportation secretary position. He knew the projects were pandora boxes > including their creator Pollack.
Yet somehow he tendered contracts for GLX
By Waquiot
Mon, 09/30/2019 - 7:30pm
Which Baker had to rework.
Nice try, but the trolley is coming your way.
Yup + One OSHA surprise sweep nixes both projects
By anon
Sat, 10/05/2019 - 3:03pm
Lets just hope the OSHA sweep happens before someone is killed
"Under Baker..."
By Rob
Fri, 09/27/2019 - 9:46am
"Rushed"?
"Break-neck speed"?
The older trains taught the rookies well, I see...
By noahproblem
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 10:23pm
Door problems a few weeks in? Sounds about par for the course...
Very serious door problem, it
By anon
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 10:31pm
Very serious door problem, it opened while the train was moving.
Next…
By Wiffleball
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 10:40pm
sticky floors and the smell of breakfast sandwich farts
Hey, they're just trying to
By deepfreeze
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 8:30am
Hey, they're just trying to fit in. Be nice to the new kids.
Mister Bulger's Transit Authority
By nino nitti
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 7:09am
Did Billy Bulger's son James J Bulger of BHR/Thornton have anything to do with purchasing these sure to be reliable Chinese trains?
Very sad
By Michael
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 8:30am
Would have been a great chance for Governor Baker and the "who cares about the MBTA unless there are photos of angry mobs we can steal on Twitter" local media to gather for a rare ribbon-retying ceremony
Good night, sweet shiny princes, you were too good for this world
He did have a ribbon cutting ceremony
By adamg
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 9:13am
At Wellington, the morning the first train rolled out.
He cut the ribbon, then went out the back and got into his state SUV, of course, rather than ride the new train ...
Door space
By Ishmael Jones
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 9:24am
As belichick would say, the doors opening randomly "is not what we were looking for."
The door space is much wider. The narrowness of the door space on the current trains forces people on the platform to wait until departing riders have gotten off. When I rode the new train, at Downtown crossing people were getting on the train as people were getting off, which is not unusual at Downtown Crossing.
Also, there is still butt sliding, despite the nubbles on the seat.
Could be worse.
By jmeltzer
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 2:18pm
Just imagine if it was windows, not doors. Blue screens all the time.
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