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State to mail out 4.5 million absentee-ballot applications next week

Gov. Baker signed the Covid-19-related bill and now the state is getting ready to mail out applications for both the September primaries and the November final election. You'll still be able to vote at a polling place if you really want to.

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Back to the Future

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Weld hasn't been governor for a couple of decades....

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This day will go down in infamy.

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All the people complaining about vote by mail without citing examples from the 1/5 of US citizens who already do so and have for decades won't be able to make stuff up anymore?

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I still can't get over that one county in Kentucky (well, according to a meme, anyway, I didn't Snopes it) with 610,000 people having one polling place. Allston-Brighton has an eighth of that and has, what, seven or eight polling places?

Is this county lacking for poll volunteers? Keep in mind that a good prosecutor doesn't ask a question without knowing the answer.

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I'm a poll worker in Somerville. At 40 something, I'm about 25-40 years younger than anyone else in the room. On a normal election, we're slowed by the hearing and vision problems and cognitive decline of the elderly who do this job.

I'm not knocking them- it's a 15 to 16 hour day because we don't have enough people to do this in shifts. We're all exhausted by the end.

So you want to Do Something Important??

Spend the day ensuring that people can vote so that Senior Citizens don't have to risk their lives.

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Boston has already been experiencing a shortage of poll workers on Election Day as it is. It is a long day from 6 AM to about 9 PM with two breaks for lunch and dinner, but if you have a busy precinct, it is possible one fo those meal breaks may not make sense, especially for the senior officers.

One point... I cannot speak for every city and town but Boston's poll workers are paid but it averages out to about minimum wage. Annual re-training in law, policy, procedure, and the machinery is also required and you get an additional $20 for attending. The class runs about 3 hours.

Early voting in MA has many centralized locations that accommodates the whole city, whereas neighborhood polling places on Election Day are limited to the neighborhood in question. It's usually about 2000 or so voters in each neighborhood cluster.but it is rare 100% of those actually vote.

Mail in ballots are already in use for the so-called "Absentee voters." The rules on that were relaxed quite some time back so we've actually always had mail-in voting but you had to request it. The problem will be in how the ballots are managed. usually, early vote ballots and absentee ballots are stored securely and must be run through a voting tally machine at the neighborhood precinct as if the person was there in person. The senior officials on site are charged with handling that.

The main problem will be that the volume of ballots will require additional people in the field to process the ballots and as noted there is already a shortage, and we have not even counted those who will bow out due to COVID-19.

The second problem will be people that mis-mark the ballots. There is no do-over for mailed in ballots. If you are on site and make a mistake you get up to 3 chances to get it right. When a ballot is mis-marked and the tally machine refuses it, the election officials on site have to hand tally the ballot. If there are "over marks," meaning the voter marked too many people for a specific race, the election official cannot do anything but set aside the ballot and let the election department try to figure it out. The result is no one gets voted for and the errors cannot be fixed after the fact due to the anonymity of the vote.

So voting in person is always better when and where possible. Mistakes can be addressed. With mail-in and absentees, and even with early voting, that option is gone.

We will have to see how this plays out. It's new territory.

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Millions of Americans in Colorado, Oregon and Washington have been voting mail-in for years. It's not like MA is going out on a limb here, our gov't can leverage their successful experience.

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I originally reacted the same way you did. After that primary I read that the reasons included:

  • Most people were expected to mail in ballots
  • Not enough poll workers due to COVID-19
  • Control over cleaning/disinfection easier if fewer place

Also, the consolidated polling places were huge - similar to using the Convention Center. Reports stated it went surprisingly well, all things considered - they did have to petition to keep a couple of polling places open late until everyone who'd arrived in time had a chance to vote.

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For some people it will be a few blocks away and for some it will be quite a distance with commensurate travel time. Even with Covid-19 considerations, that is a long way to ask people to travel to vote. I don't know which county this is, how big it is, and what the population distribution is, but it sounds like voter suppression to me.

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Have you ever lived in a caucus state? It can be even worse. On caucus day (early voting doesn't apply), everyone shows up to one or two caucus locations in the county. People have to stand together in the appropriate side in a large room while someone counts heads.

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Bill Weld did write an op-ed piece on this subject for the Washington Post a few days ago [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/03/please-republicans-do...... but we've had, what, I think 5 different governors since Weld walked down the State House steps almost 23 years ago.

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I feel more comfortable going to polling station. I don't want to worry about waiting for the mail unless there is a tracking number. Not that a tracking number is of any help these days.

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Uh, I think I may have spotted an error, Adam.

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Gov. Weld signed the Covid-19-related bill

Probably not enforceable.

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Isn’t he running for president?

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Even he realized what he was trying to do was too quixotic.

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They went to caucuses in many states to make sure that he (or Romney or Lincoln Project Candidate wouldn't embarrass King Donnie the Flatulent by winning a primary in a blue state.

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Fixed.

I had Weld on my mind because I had reason to look up the 2016 election results for Northampton (for some Facebook discussion) and I spotted his name there (on the Libertarian ticket) and that obviously stayed with me when I wrote the above post a few minutes later.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

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Gen-xer

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where the government isn't actually trying to suppress voting.

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And how does Baker expect us to buy baked goods to support the local swim team? Obviously he didn't think this plan through. He must hate kids.

Voting by mail will be the downfall of Democracy and the trips for school sports teams!

/S

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My magic sign that convinces 80% of passers-by to vote for my candidate? Without my magic sign,how will I charm the electorate into agreeing with me?

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