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Massachusetts flag flying in Charleston, SC

Hardly anybody in Massachusetts outside of government agencies flies the state flag, so Jacob Wessel was nonplussed to find one flying outside a home in Charleston, SC. "It's an interesting choice for sure," he says.


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The Cape Cod consulate to Charleston, SC

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tunnel permits there.

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Shouldn't there be a Dunkin' Donut flag there?

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There shouldn't be a Dunkin anywhere. ;-)

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The flag of the Confederacy or the flag of Massachusetts with its depiction of a white arm with a sword poised to strike on a peaceful native American?

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The sword is there because of poor graphical design, not any racist intent. It represents the Bedford Arm, which is a symbol of the fight against the British, which makes sense to incorporate in the seal of the state where the Revolution began, but which, yes, looks like it's poised to drop down on the poor man underneath it, because our 18th century forebears had a different sense of graphical design than we do.

Now compare that to the Confederate flag, which was strictly a symbol of a traitorous attempt to maintain a slave-based economy that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths and which has morphed into a symbol of an attempt to bring back murderous minority rule under threat of force.

I mean, there are very good reasons to remove the native American from the Massachusetts flag (the original seal had him under a thought balloon pleading with European Christians to come save him), but, sorry, you're not really owning the libs here by talking about the sword and comparing the state flag to the South's treason rag.

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Preach it! Amen-ra. Preach it.

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"Peaceful native American?" That's presumptuous.

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We can look at the flag. Is there anything on the flag that indicates to you that the man on the flag is violent. You know, other than his race?

He looks peaceful to me.

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"Peaceful native American?" That's presumptuous.

The arrow pointing downward is specifically intended to convey peaceful intent, so why presumptuous?

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How would you react if someone were to walk in and take your stuff and kill and drag people off for servants.

Feeling peaceful?

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It's been approved by the legislature and signed by the governor. There's a commission designing a new flag and seal. Not, y'know, that your rhetorical question was posed in anything but good faith.

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That sword arm is not, by any reasonable interpretation of graphic design, heraldic design, or vexillology, “poised to strike” at anything.

There is plenty of real racist, colonialist, imperialist imagery and messaging out there without needing to make stuff up where it doesn’t exist.

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The thing about the state of Massachusetts is that no one really cares about the state of Massachusetts. All I ever hear his hatred of our politicians and a desire to leave for Florida or New Hampshire.

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I'm not a big sports fan but I hear a lot of people complaining about Boston having a disproportionate number playoff spots.

I'd estimate that 75% of COVID articles that quote a doctor, at least one of those doctors works for a Boston area institution. Massachusetts has strong ties to the production and development of all three approved COVID vaccines in the US. Harvard is the most discussed university in the US.

Most people I know like Elizabeth Warren and don't hate Baker. He's still one of the most liked Governors in the US.

The complaint is normally that MA has way too big of an ego and national presence for such a small state. Three US top-line presidential candidates have come from MA in the past 30 years. The number increases if you include 3rd candidates.

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All I ever hear his hatred of our politicians and a desire to leave for Florida or New Hampshire.

You should get out more.

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I haven't yet read this book that just came out, but its very existence disproves your statement.

The Politics of Massachusetts Exceptionalism, edited by Jerold Duquette and Erin O'Brien

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Wow - a message from 1990!

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