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Jamaica Plain brewery shutting down

Boston Restaurant Talk reports the impending demise of Turtle Swamp Brewing on Washington Street.

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I hope they put affordable housing in its place.

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They'll blame the developer of the affordable senior housing next door.

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the developers of the supportive housing for formerly homeless across the street.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/153428r/comment/jsht0vo/

The ex TSB employee says that the lawsuit is all about making sure construction doesn't block the business or its operations. Apparently TSB had been trying to settle this with JPNDC but they weren't responding to calls or emails so TSB had to resort to lawsuits.

They're neighbors and both businesses are near each other. TSB couldn't go over there, make an appointment with the head of JPNDC and talk about it? it's weird that this couldn't be settled out of court.

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TSB couldn't go over there, make an appointment with the head of JPNDC and talk about it?

It's kind of hard to make an appointment when the other side won't take your calls or respond to your e-mails.

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You don't.

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NIMBYism doesn't pay.

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Peak brewery?

My theory -with only my gut feeling to back it up- is that we've reached that point. We may even have reached it a while ago.

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You can't swing a cat without hitting something calling itself a microbrewery or craft brewery. Many of them are making decent beer, and can be successful depending on their business model. When you get this many, it almost seems like the successful model is that of the local pub and brewery, which offers something distinctive (not gratuitously weird, just distinguishable from everything else) and that depends on local business. People come for the beer that they can't get in stores, they come for the company, maybe for something else distinctive that the pub offers that they can't find elsewhere (food, games, music, a darts league, whatever), and if everything's done right, that's a sustainable business model. As for those who hope they'll get big and get bought, I kind of think that window has closed.

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maybe for something else distinctive that the pub offers that they can't find elsewhere (food, games, music, a darts league, whatever),

Dogs! you forgot that, due to some quirk in the licensing laws, you can bring your dog to a brewery in most towns.

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My current favorite is Four Phantoms in Greenfield MA, a dog-friendly heavy metal tabletop gaming nerd bar that brews excellent beer. They have food but also host popups, which means great food and also a leg up for would-be restaurant owners who are working their way up to brick and mortar or a food truck. Hanging out with fun people and their dogs and eating good food and drinking excellent beer: it's a business model!

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