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The pragmatism of voting your conscience for US Senate

"The debate basically cemented my extremely reluctant vote for Coakley, with hopes that either she grows into the job or that someone better beats her in the Democratic primary in two years."
- David Yamada 1/12/2010 9:46AM

I suspect a lot of liberals feel the way David Yamada does. I do but I come to a different conclusion about how I should vote. Follow me on this, I’ll explain.

A lot of liberals are extremely reluctant to vote for Coakley and they do so only by holding out hope that she would become a much better Senator than we have any evidence of or reason to believe. Yes ‘ouch’ but true in my estimation.

If its important to you that Coakley grow into the job or be replaced, I'd like to suggest you're choosing to vote for a less than satisfactory candidate and that you choose to vote for an unsatisfactory candidate because of concerns about the bigger picture, namely a filibuster-proof Senate and how losing one Democratic Senator would affect the Democratic Party agenda for the next two years ... as Democrats try to tackle health care reform, jobs, climate change, renewable energy, wall street regulatory reform, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, domestic terrorist attacks, campaign finance, DOMA, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, education, etc.

But we have already seen the filibuster-proof Senate play out and it’s not pretty. It puts power in the hands of the most conservative, least progressive Democratic Senators and produces watered down crappy legislation. Ask yourself; has Democratic control of the WH, Senate and Congress produced a public option, Medicare expansion or Wall Street regulatory reform? No.

There is another phenomenon that contributes to the problem and that is the GOP abuse of the filibuster. They are disciplined in obstructing Senate legislative business every step of the way by using procedural votes on cloture, which require 60 votes according to current Senate rules, to end debate and move to a vote on the measure. The consistent disciplined obstruction means the Senate needs 60 votes to pass anything, not 50 plus the Vice President, as was intended by the framers.

So? So make the Democrats fix the problem of GOP filibuster abuse that is rendering our country ungovernable, and send a message to the Democratic party that they need to move to the left ... or 2010 will be hell for them. How do you do that? Don’t vote Coakley, instead write-in the name of your preferred more progressive Democratic candidate.

Part of my thinking on the issue is my concern about the nature of the reform we have been getting from the Seante. It's grossly watered down and that is a result of Democrats embracing the influence and wealth of corporate lobbyists in ways Obama eschewed during his campaign. It appears Democrats are just as shameless as Republicans in taking the lobbyists' campaign donations and giving lobbyists undue influence in writing policy and legislation. I have been watching closely during the health care insurance reform debate.

Your vote puts the candidate in office. The lobbyists’ money keeps them there every election cycle and buys policies that benefit for-profit industry not citizens. Take for example in health care reform the individual mandate, the anti-trust exemption, no public option, no Medicare expansion, greater insurance coverage including 31 million more people but affordability for only 80% of the people forced to buy insurance ($8000/year) but who can’t afford necessary medical procedures due to high deductibles and co-pays.

If Coakley wins, she is stepping into a lifetime appointment. How do I know? Look at who is funding her campaign, industry lobbyists from health insurance companies, Pharma and Wall Street. Also, If the past is prologue, a Democrat elected Senator in Massachusetts is a lifetime appointment. Don't assume she will "grow into the job". Instead, assume what you see is what you get. Assume her performance over the last 20 years, and her performance in this campaign is the best indicator of her future performance.

If Coakley loses, the US Senate at the beginning of the 112th Congress will be under severe pressure to reform filibuster rules that are being used to obstruct progress. That would be a good thing. Among other effects, the power of the line-item veto used so effectively by President Joe Lieberman and President Ben Nelson would be revoked.

Whoever wins this Senate seat will have to run again in 2012. If the winner next Tuesday is Coakley, she will win as an incumbent 2012 whether or not she has become a good Senator, and she would be our Senator until she retires. If Scott Brown wins, he will lose in 2012 to a better Democratic nominee produced in a regular campaign cycle that last many months and ends on Election Day. Instead of voting for an unsatisfactory candidate like Martha Coakley (that is if you find her unsatisfactory), cast a write-in vote for your preferred progressive Democratic candidate from the primary.

Martha Coakley has a big fundraiser in Washington this evening, $1000 a plate for guests. The “hosts” for the event are people who have raised $10,000 each for Coakley:

"Of the 22 names on the host committee–meaning they raised $10,000 or more for Coakley–17 are federally registered lobbyists, 15 of whom have health-care clients. Of the other five hosts, one is married to a lobbyist, one was a lobbyist in Pennsylvania, another is a lawyer at a lobbying firm, and another is a corporate CEO. Oh, and of course, there’s also the political action commitee for Boston Scientific Corporation."
"Coakley in trouble? Pharma and HMO lobbyists to the rescue",
Washington Examiner, By Timothy P. Carney

Here is Martha's "show me the money" invitation ... and something to think about.
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Sincerely, Neil


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Yah can't tell who's on your team without a program!

Nick Allard - Lobbyist for Tech/Telecomm/Health Care with Patton Boggs LLP
Thomas Boggs, Jr - Lobbyist for Energy with Patton Boggs LLP
Boston Scientific PAC - Pharma company donation engine (gives to Democrats or Republicans as fits its need)
Chuck Brain - Lobbyist, head of Capitol Hill Strategies, LLC
Susan Brophy - Lobbyist for Telecom-based Glover Park Group
Mary Beth Cahill - ex-head of EMILY's List (pro-choice PAC), last seen as a fundraiser for Deval Patrick
Steve Champlin - husband of Cahill, last seen telling Republicans to shoot down healthcare for his health industry backers
Licy Do Canto - Lobbyist for Health and Education with The Raben Group
Gerald Cassidy - Lobbyist, head of Cassidy & Associates
David Castagnetti - Health care lobbyist and Champlin's brother-in-law
Steve Elmendorf - Lobbyist, head of Elmendorf Strategies

I have to step away from the computer for now, but I'll come back to finish the remainder of the names later.

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So, I don't think I'm going to bore myself by completing the rest of this list. The link above summarizes the number of lobbyists stoking Coakley's fire pretty well.

However, after watching the ball licking by Fox25 for Scott Brown tonight and listening to a few more of his craptastic ads, I don't think I can in good conscience allow him to win. I just can't. Geezus, I can't believe I've been talked into voting for Coakley because the alternative makes me puke even MORE.

Our fucking system sucks. I need to go take a shower now.

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... a vote cast for not-Coakley is a vote for Brown.

I'm taking a longer view: A write-in vote for the Democrat who I want as my Senator is a ballot well cast. In my estimation, Brown could never hold the Senate seat except in an abbreviated special election when matched against a flawed Democratic nominee, Martha Coakley (who won the abbreviated special election primary because she got in before everyone else and played rope-a-dope until primary day.) In fairness, Martha worked harder during the primary than she did from 12/9 - 1/11. I think it will be easier for a strong Democratic challenger to defeat a Republican incumbent than for a strong Democratic challenger to beat a Democratic incumbent. Plus a 59 seat count in the Senate will force Reid to address Republican obstructionism at the beginning of the 112th Congress.

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AS I said to a Scott Brown supporter yesterday: When it comes to Washington, only with a D next to someone's name can have any hope the person will vote based upon their own view of the situation. Any republican will do as the told, how they are told and when they are told, or the RINO people will come after them with no mercy. Scott Brown is George W Bush policy-wise and I am still sick of that type of politican and all they stand for.

"I drive a truck" is not a campaign slogan that should fly in this state. Martha is nothing special, but at least Democrats in Washington are flexing their independence. The entire Health Care debate has Democrat vs Democrat vs Democrat. The Republicans have offered America nothing but the status quo. Martha's attack add was brutal but dead on. Scott Brown is not a Weld republican, he;s a Limbaugh republican through and through.

Keeping a filibuster proof majority is no big deal because the Democrats vote their own way. There are at least 3 different parties all with the D next to their name, or have people not been paying attention.

For any hope of something, vote Martha, for nothing but 6 years of "government bad, big business good" rhetoric and action then have fun with Brown.

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I agree the Republicans are disciplined and odious. But the legislation coming out of Washington is just as beholden to lobbyists now as it was under George Bush. That means it is being written to favor what is good for for-profit business not you and me.

We need to fix the filibuster rule pronto regardless. If Reid said tomorrow he had plans to do that, it might change my thinking.

The Kennedy seat winner next Tuesday has to run again in 2012, and then 2018 after that.

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"I drive a truck" is not a campaign slogan that should fly in this state.

You ever venture outside of the Boston/Cambridge/Brookline/Newton etc region? If you don't drive jump on the red line and head to Quincy, take the commuter rail north past Lynn, hitch a ride out past 128 and make that same statement. Even in the city I know plenty of people that drive trucks and consider 200,000 miles a major feat, mainly because he managed to keep it in such good shape during that time. The truck driving population is not vocal but they are out there and they are energized for the first time in almost a decade. If there were a serious primary though many people would have asked why a State Senator needs a truck like that with the extended cab, the other Republican would have accused him of pandering and being a phoney (I am a Democrat I like my silent "e")

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Why does he need a truck to do that though? Kind of a waste of gas don't you think? I mean, the guy is a lawyer. If he was a plumber and didn't have anywhere else to store his tools, or went around the state helping people shovel snow or something with equipment in the back of that truck I would be impressed.

And I would question him even more if he didn't have the extended cab. The extended cab just means you can drive around more people. Trucks without the extend cabs are usually just work trucks.

I might not be getting your point though either.

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... nice faceless diatribe! I'm sure there's a soviet missing it's idiot somewhere. We have a constitution, and if you don't like it, ammend it. Otherwise, STFU.

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please tell me more about this constitution and what Anonymous has suggested needs to be amended... (and don't say the rules about the filibuster, which are not in the constitution. It's Senate Rule 22. And some people, such as Geoghegan this week, argue it is unconstitutional.

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I hadn't read that article. It's good.

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Jonathan Bernstein's rebuttal is a pretty good read.

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"... nice faceless diatribe!" My name is at the bottom of the post, you want a photo?

"I'm sure there's a soviet missing it's idiot somewhere." Yes, I can see him from home in Alaska. Hey, that's makes me qualified for VP!

"We have a constitution" I knew we did but I thought Bush and Cheney pretty much shredded it.

"if you don't like it, ammend (sic) it." The Senate votes on rules at the beginning of every new Congress. Did you know that the vote count for cloture has been changed in the past? It used to be 67, it's now 60. It can be changed without changing the Constitution. Besides, we Republicans prefer to reserve Constitutional amendments for important things like denying gay people equal protection under the law.

"Otherwise. STFU" I'm impressed. You're so smart you can demand when others speak and keep quiet, impressive.

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Neil, you raise an intriguing scenario, but as I see it a Brown victory would galvanize the GOP across the nation and help to put dozens of other House and Senate seats at risk for 2010. Although the Democrats have demonstrated their usual inability to get unified even with a Dem prez and significant House and Senate majorities, it would get even worse with a Brown win.

Furthermore, Brown is capable of being underestimated, as we already have seen. If he manages to pull off a miracle upset next week, he's sufficiently smart, likable, and slippery on the issues so as to not make his defeat in 2012 such a certainty. And if, heaven forbid, terrorism reemerges as a key issue in 2012 because of events beyond the average citizen's control, he could find himself in a commanding position to be re-elected.

On balance, I'd rather give the power of incumbency to an uninspiring but solidly liberal Democrat than a staunch conservative Republican in moderate clothing. Voting one's conscience can include voting for a disappointing candidate when circumstances call for it. I think they do in this case.

As for Coakley's fundraiser, let's be real: It's the same deal for (even liberal) Dems across the country. Until we put some true reform into our campaign finance laws (and the Supreme Court is a huge obstacle to that), officeholders and hopefuls will continue to have their campaign pockets lined by lobbyists.

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I appreciate it.

Of course, you're right that lobbyists' purchased influence doesn't effect different ramifications depending on a Coakley win or a Brown win. If I were to re-write this, I'd be clear that campaign finance is the reason we're getting crappy, compromised reform with a Dem in WH , 60 Senators and a majority in the house. It's the biggest single piece of our broken government but it's not a reason to chose Coakley over Brown or visa versa.

Still, I think Brown would be much easier (for a Democrat) to beat in 2012 than Coakley (while still acknowledging that events could play out differently for the reasons you mention.) Do you agree?

There are some new poll results out tonight posted here, "Coakley can’t close the deal with voters who agree with her"

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I wanted Joe Kennedy to run, and it looks like I'll get to vote for a Joe Kennedy.

Can't vote for nanny-state authoritarian mediocrity Mooninite Martha, can't vote for wingnut Brown.

Let the chips fall where they may.

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Yeah! Let's move further left.
And let's vote Coakley.

Let's pretend the past year of Dem WH control,
combined with the filthiest, most inept Dem leadership in history
hasn't brought the nation to its knees.

Shut off main stream indoctrination, er, media and have some courage.
Go listen to your neighbors.
Even listen to "right wing radio" for a few hours just to hear
what half the nation, your neighbors, 150,000,000 think.
Get out of your bubble.

On paper, Scott Brown resembles JFK more than any politician since 1963.

"A bird that flies with only one wing can only arrive at its own tail"-EAS

(right now our beak is rammed under tail feathers"

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Let's pretend the past year of Dem WH control,
combined with the filthiest, most inept Dem leadership in history
hasn't brought the nation to its knees.

Sure. Because it couldn't *possibly* have been the record-breaking number of cloture votes forced by the Republicans.

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The Senate used to hear the word "filibuster" about ONCE per YEAR in the 1950's. They are hearing it about once every THREE DAYS these days from the Republicans. AND the government is *still* getting things done in the face of such obstructions: Fair Pay, Stimulus, Credit Card Reform, Cash-for-Clunkers, Hate Crime Prevention, Improved Unemployment...

So, sit on it and spin.

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I'm sure you said the same thing about the filibuster when Republicans controlled Congress.

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Are you not looking at the same graph that I am?? There was nothing extraordinary about the number of cloture votes to kill any Democrat-attempted filibusters in the 109th or earlier! In fact, the one time the Democrats gained a spine and wanted to obstruct anything GW Bush and the Republican Senate were shoveling was over some judicial nominees...at which point, the Republicans threatened to IGNORE them by forcibly reinterpreting the entire rules of the Senate to evade filibusters on judicial nominees! The "Gang of 14" ended up agreeing that Democrats wouldn't obstruct the nominees if the Republicans didn't then personally rewrite the rules of the Senate for their own advantage!

The first two judicial nominees from Obama that the Republicans didn't like? Oh, you better believe they didn't hold up to the vis-a-vis of the Gang of 14 accord and filibustered them. Class act, that.

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is out of control. That why many Democrats will hold their noses and vote for Coakley. When Coakley wins, you can blame obstructionist Republicans. Democrats don;t like many of the compromised pieces of legislation coming out of Congress (compromised by moneyed interests IR lobbyists) but the dislike the way Republicans governed the country for eight years before that FAR MORE.

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I'm speechless.
This is exactly why we're in this mess.
The subconscious desire to not be wrong with original convictions,
say in the most recent Congressional elections, and last November,
make denial the most powerful force for many.

You go listen to keith olbermann instead of your millions of
desperate neighbors.

History (to those with honest and disillusioned retrospect), will mark this
era as the lowest, most misguided year/years executed by the left.

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I name actual bills passed and signed...and you give me platitudes?

Now, which one of us is supposed to be kidding ourselves again?

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I am overcome by nostalgia for the days gone by, and would love to have another Ike as president.

Eisenhower:
-Maintained a top Income Tax rate of 91%
-Oversaw the expansion of New Deal social programs, extending benefits to additional ten million workers.
-Created the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare.
-Promoted massive Federal infrastructure investment (creation of Interstate Highway System).
-Declared racial discrimination a national security issue.
-Desegregated Washington DC schools.
-Proposed and signed into law Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.
-Placed National Guard under federal control and forcibly desegregated schools in Arkansas
-Appointed Earl Warren SC; the Warren Court brought some of the most dramatic changes in judicial power and philosophy in the history of the American judiciary, expanding civil rights and liberties, judicial power, and the federal power in ways previously unseen.
-Warned America that the "Military-Industrial Complex" threatened our freedom.

These were centrist policies in the halcyon days of the 50's, enacted by one of America's great heroes. They cannot be mistaken for the kind of shallow and destructive policies a flim-flam man like Scott Brown would propose today. The acceptable political spectrum has shifted greatly since the 50s. Moderate Republicans have moved to the right, and right-wing Republicans have moved into the looney bin. No Republican today would ever propose the kind of policies Eisenhower promoted. Few Democrats would, either; Martha Coakley is surely to the right of Eisenhower, as is Barack Obama.

If Eisenhower became president today, the teabaggers would probably call him a communist and foment violence against him, as they do against President Obama. When denial reaches mental illness, it produces people like Ed. And Fox news is there to whip them up.

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Here's the dirty secret about write-in votes.

NO ONE READS THE NAME OF THE WRITE-IN.

Unless there is a certified write-in candidate or a hand-recount the poll workers do not go through and tally the results of which write-in got which vote.

So, you can write-in the leftiest lefty who ever leftied, and all the final tally at the end of the day will show is the total number of write in votes. Your protest will be not just be falling on deaf ears but it won't fall on anyone's ears, eyes, nose, anything! If Scott Brown wins, the only message will be "Massachusetts wants Conservative Republican Scott Brown"

In no universe will electing a Republican from Massachusetts of all places encourage national Democrats to move left. The only message will be that if a liberal (and face it, Coakley is the most liberal candidate we'll have on the ballot next week) can't win in Massachusetts, then they won't win anywhere, so move right. This is what happened after 1994 and again in 2002 -- the Dems all got spooked and moved even further right. The media message will be that the GOP is resurgent and the conventional wisdom that this is a 'center right' nation will be reaffirmed. The Overton Window moves right and it becomes more impossible to get progressive legislation passed.

Punishing Martha Coakley for the truculence of Blue Dog Democrats is nonsensical and counterproductive unless your aim is to further water down or completely derail the progressive agenda.

I get that you're frustrated with the pace and content of reform. We all just got a very drawn-out lesson in how the sausage gets made and it ain't pretty. I know that liberals, myself included, feel like Lucy keeps pulling the football away. But the solution is not to dig ourselves in an even deeper hole. Even if Coakley is not the candidate of your liberal fantasies, she is at very least an ally to progressives. She will not be actively working against our interests in every case, unlike her opponent.

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Even if Coakley is not the candidate of your liberal fantasies, she is at very least an ally to progressives. She will not be actively working against our interests in every case, unlike her opponent.

Point taken. Hopefully a better candidate will emerge in 2012, but Brown would be an utter disaster in the interim.

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How to run as a Write-In in MA

The only time you are required to pre-notify them is in the case of a presidential election because they must have your electoral college delegate list in hand prior to the election.

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But read the fine print:

Also, while not required, our Office strongly recommends notifying your local election officials of your intention to run as a write-in or sticker candidate. When notified, the local election officials can inform precinct officials to carefully count all write-ins or stickers.

Unless you tell someone you're running or there are an unusual # of write-ins, the folks that run the polling places are not going to count those votes individually on election night.

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What stopped us in 2009? Why didn't this turn into a great era of progressive legislation? I actually think this member of Congress isn't direct enough it blaming the 60-vote culture of the Senate. It is true that there are deeper problems with corporate capture of political institutions, but those have developed over decades and will take decades to solve. Further, that problem didn't stop the House from passing the long list of legislation provided here. Without the 60-vote culture of the Senate, it wouldn't have stopped much, either. Weakened, yes. Stopped, no.

Read the whole thing.

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