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Sweet!
By anon
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 5:59pm
Sweet!
But but but
By eeka
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 11:01pm
When can we get a Starbucks near HydeSquare/Jackson/RoxXing/etc? Or any coffee shop? Only things around are Butterfly Coffee (which is awesome, but gets crowded) and City Feed (zzzz...)
Flat Black, are you listening?
well in Hyde Square both
By pierce
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 9:13am
well in Hyde Square both Velouria and June Bug recently went under in, that doesnt bode well for future outings. But in addition to your list there is JP Licks which has great coffee and is essentially a cafe during the day, Canto 6, and...... yeah I can't think of any beyond that.
I would love to see some more cafes in the area, but not bad enough to suffer starbucks or more dunkies.
Dunkies is not a cafe
By eeka
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 11:02am
.
i didn't mean to suggest it
By pierce
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 2:05pm
i didn't mean to suggest it is... if I did my response would be to tell you roxbury has 40 cafes already.
neither is starbucks
By anon
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 2:07pm
neither is starbucks
This is going to confuse the
By jason mraz hips...
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 6:03pm
This is going to confuse the hipsters. It will be very interesting to see what their reaction will be.
confused as to why the city invested in City Feed
By anon
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:54am
"We just invested in the expansion of City Feed"
Say WHAT? Why did the city do ANYTHING to help that overpriced hipster convenience store?
There goes the neighborhood
By petergriffith5@...
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 6:22pm
Interesting article in the JP Gazette. The focus is not on the loss of a market that provides, good affordable food, not to mention irreplaceable variety, but on keeping chains out of JP.
The tone of the article speaks to the loco-organic gentry who have saturated JP.
It'll be interesting to see how the much celebrated, but hardly affordable City Feed does with competition.
whole foods is affordable? I
By anon
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 6:10am
whole foods is affordable? I certainly can't afford the one on Washington Street.
whole foods is more affordable than you think
By Todd
Sat, 01/22/2011 - 10:28am
If you do a price comparison on same (or close) items, you'll find that WF is quite competitive on staples. It's just that their high end is a lot higher. Go a google search to see the results of comparisons that others have done if you don't have the time to do them yourself.
No me gusta
By massmarrier
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 6:40pm
We've shopped Hi-Lo for a long time and have directed Bostonians and visitors alike there. It's the other kind of organic, the original, with stuff you don't can't find in the chain supermarkets. Damn.
Yo tampoco
By eeka
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 6:44pm
I wish they'd replace the Stop and Shop with WF (or even better, TJs) and keep Hi-Lo.
TJs, yes
By massmarrier
Sat, 01/22/2011 - 12:48pm
That would be an ideal plug-in. The Jackson S&S is sad.
...hope they'll carry Luker
By theszak
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 6:44pm
...hope they'll carry Luker Chocolate distributed by Goya!
see also
http://www.google.com/images?q=luker%20chocolate
No!!!
By jef taylor
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 7:08pm
Nooooo!!
I just discovered the Hi-Lo! Best place around for chicken necks and pork necks, not to mention Dulce De Leche candy! Very sad. :(
I predict that area residents
By Kathode
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 7:20pm
will patronize Whole Foods in droves. I, however, don't shop there and don't plan to start. (unless it gets cheaper!)
Have you actually been there?
By eeka
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 6:20pm
Whole Foods has better prices than Stop and Shop and Shaws on most identical items. They just don't carry the cheapest of cheap varieties at all; they don't sell anything with HFCS or trans fat. For instance, Amy's soups are cheaper there than anywhere else, but they don't carry 33-cent-per-can tomato soup made of corn syrup and MSG, which means that the cheapest soup available is going to be more than at other stores. It makes sense that a lot of the dairy-free and such items are going to be less at WF, since they do more volume of this stuff.
It's really too bad that their marketing and reputation and whatnot is that they're expensive. I work with a number of low-income families who are either trying special diets for their kids with allergies/medical issues or just wanting to eat healthy, and they'll tell me how they're committed to doing this, but frustrated that a particular item was so expensive at S&S. When I tell them that some of these items are cheaper at WF, they're surprised and said they hadn't even gone in there (or in TJs) because they'd been told those were the stores for rich people where everything costs twice as much.
I also find that WF's
By anon
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 8:05pm
I also find that WF's reputation as being "really expensive" is overblown...I think because of their high ticket items that everyone sees...but I don't get those. If you want extremely expensive hot chocolate, you can get that.
However, things like cereal, orange juice, clif bars, yogurt, frozen staples...I find these are all competitive if not cheaper than Roche Bros. where we used to go.
Yep
By eeka
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 8:42pm
Right, they have $50 truffle oil and all kinds of imported craziness, but they're generally cheaper for the same items. Oh, and the 365 brand stuff is awesome. Some of the stuff, if you look at the label, is clearly made in the same place as Annie's and Amy's and Kashi and whoever else but just doesn't have the brand-name label; same ingredients, same nutrition information, factory located in same city.
Awful
By pugdaddy
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 7:43pm
This is terrible. I really really enjoy the Hi Lo, and worse, what will happen to the thousands of Spanish people who shop there? Or use WIC? Where will they go?
This is another defeat for those of a lower socioeconomic status. :(
Plus, Whole Paycheck stinks. At least make it a Trader Joes.
Stop & Shop? In Jackson?
By anon
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 8:04pm
Stop & Shop? In Jackson?
market forces...
By anon
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:48am
worse, what will happen to the thousands of Spanish people who shop there?
If there were thousands of Spanish people who shopped there, Hi-Lo wouldn't have gone out of business.
Folks, it's called supply and demand...
No it's not
By Kaz
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 11:24am
Supply and demand is just an economic model for setting the price point of a product.
However, closing a store (aside from the owner retiring or selling it out) is a simple matter of net profit based on whether they made enough income to at least cover costs. In that way, thousands, or even millions, of people could have been shopping there and it could have closed anyways. Most often, this has to do with a rise in costs (rent, payroll, bills) and not a loss of income.
Golden Watch?
By massmarrier
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 11:52am
I wouldn't count on Hi-Lo being unprofitable at all. This is more likely along the lines of the Dough Boy shops. They did just fine, but Dunkin' wanted those locations and paid big for them. Such deals are secondary or tertiary to supply and demand. Here, the larger corporation sees profits and traffic and location as is. They gamble they can do even better and skew the simple formula.
Yes, Trader Joe's
By eeka
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 8:47pm
TJs would be better, I agree.
TJs and Whole Foods do both take SNAP (food stamps), which is what people use to buy their groceries from day to day. The Boston-area WFs and TJs don't take WIC, which is the program that gives checks to buy certain foods (cereal, formula, etc.) that families generally cash in once a month or so. There are locations in other places that take WIC because the community has lobbied them to do so.
I'd be behind anything convincing any store to take WIC, but this really isn't such an issue as if a store refused to take food stamps. Generally a family will have several hundred dollars per month on their food stamps card that allows them to buy just about anything that's considered food, whereas their WIC check for the month might have a few cans of infant formula, some cheese, a box of Cheerios, a bag of carrots.
EDIT: Oh, and I actually see it as a plus when more people are using their SNAP card at higher-profile stores. At many many convenience-type stores and mom-and-pop-type stores, the owners are willing to sell people cigarettes and other non-food items with their SNAP card, ringing it up as food. This isn't as likely to happen at a large grocery store. In general I'm in favor of locally owned family businesses, but the abuse of SNAP is rampant, so I'm all for people using it at places where the store owners are more likely to be responsible about it.
Whole Foods takes WIC. And I
By Sally
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:31pm
Whole Foods takes WIC. And I agree with other posters--they're expensive but not more so than Stop & Shop if you're buying basic staples. No one in Hyde Square is going to starve. And not to mention, WF is a good employer--there'll be plenty of jobs there.
There goes diversity, crushed
By anon
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 7:53pm
There goes diversity, crushed under the yuppie steamroller. And it's the Whole Foods shoppers who love to talk about JP diversity the most.
What a BS statement
By anon
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:28pm
If you really think diversity has been crushed in northern JP, just starting walking down Centre St towards Jackson Square station. Lots of bodega, latin restaurants, hair places, etc... Keep walking into Fort Hill and you'll be into an even more diverse neighborhood.
i'm sure you would consider
By pierce
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 10:22pm
i'm sure you would consider my wife and me to be yuppies or hipsters or whatever, we have multiple CSA memberships and ride bikes and love diversity and localism, etc., but i have never shopped at a whole foods. I think the HiLo closing sucks, but partially because its great sign and facade will be homogenized into the generic whole foods strip mall architecture. We will continue to get staples at harvest and on the weekends get zipcars and shop at roche brothers or russo's.
I have no delusions that the whole foods will be any less than incredibly successful, but believe me there are plenty of people in JP who simply won't shop at a corporate chain.
The best of both worlds
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 11:55pm
Boston could really use a grocery chain like this one: http://www.newseasonsmarket.com/dynamicContent.asp...
We have one
By adamg
Fri, 01/14/2011 - 11:59pm
It's called Roche Bros. They just don't make that big a deal about it. But there's a reason there's a community center and an ice-skating rink with "Roche" in the names in West Roxbury.
I have actually attempted to
By anon
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:12am
I have actually attempted to shop at Hi-Lo--unlike everyone lamenting its awesomeness on this page. I went to get tomatillos, cilantro, plantains, cactus and avocados so I could cook an actual meal this summer. The tomatillos were uniformly moldy and soft, the cilantro was yellow and slimy, the cactus was also covered in fuzzy mold. The avocados and the plantains were fine. The rest of the place was full of blue sugar water in plastic mini-barrels and rice mixes. You can get canned beans at the Stop and Shop. I was really in to Hi-Lo when I went and got cheap limes but when i really tried to put it together to make something it was impossible to do so. I wanted this place to survive but realized it wouldn't in August. Will be delighted for City Feed and The Co-op to have a little competition. Hope they keep the clock. So let's see how many idiotic "hipster" comments we can get.
Whit
Russo's is a bit of a haul...
By FlyingToaster
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 10:14am
... (well, not from me, it's only a few blocks away from Chez Toaster), but you can get all of your ingredients except sometimes cactus -- I haven't checked the last couple weeks, but they had plantains, tomatillos and avocados on Tuesday, and I've never seen them run out of cilantro or limes. You're better off shopping on weekdays, as the weekends are a madhouse.
A Russo & Sons
We depend upon the fresh and dried fruit for Warrior
BabyGirl. And their strawberries were ripe, unlike WholePaychecks.Mileage varies, tastes vary,
By pierce
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 11:07am
Mileage varies, tastes vary, your experience isn't necessarily universal: you're not the only one who has shopped there, cupcake.
I have shopped and will for a short time continue to shop there. Produce I have found to be fair to middling, but its good in a pinch when I need a head of garlic or something and don't want to drop a fin on it at City Feed. There are also plenty of prepackaged things (Goya stuff, dried chiles, mexi-cokes) that can be gotten there for much less than anywhere else.
Will be delighted for City
By gamesink
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 11:53am
Will be delighted for City Feed and The Co-op to have a little competition.
Maybe you didn't notice that Whole Foods is taking Hi-Lo's place? WF will be much more competitive with CF and Harvest than Hi-Lo has been.
Abysmal produce
By Sock_Puppet
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 11:18am
I tried to shop at Hi-Lo a few times and the produce was abysmal crap. As Whit describes, moldy, slimy, yellow, disgusting. If produce isn't a big part of why you go shopping (for me it is), Hi-Lo might fit a need for you. It does have a good variety of prepackaged foods from other countries. But if you cook fresh food, it would have to be only be one of your stops, because you'd have to go elsewhere for the fresh part. Pretty it up by calling it a specialty ethnic supermarket if you want to, but the truth is Hi-Lo is a ghetto supermarket selling mostly non-nutritious ghetto crap. The produce will surely be better at Whole Foods and probably not much more expensive. The folks who shop at Hi-Lo will probably see their nutrition improve if they keep on. The ethnic stuff you can buy plenty of other places, including bodegas and other supermarkets, which will probably step up their buying if there's a real need. It's a win for everybody in the neighborhood except the posers.
Whole Foods
By CatherineN
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:21am
I was actually thinking that instead of a Whole Foods, a Roche Brothers supermarket occupying that space would be great. Doubt that will happen though. It seems like a done deal. I won't lie, I will go to the WF but it won't be my main grocery store.
Not Exactly
By SwirlyGrrl
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:40am
Roche Brothers wouldn't deliver to places like Roxbury or even Medford not too long ago - although they would deliver all around them to wealthier, less stereotyped places.
When Roche Bros puts a store in Dudley Square - like New Seasons put one in a culturally diverse and impoverished area of Portland - we'll talk.
Let us fill you in about Roche Bros
By merlinmurph
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 9:10am
Apparently, the only thing you know about Roche Bros is that they didn't deliver to places you would have liked them to. Here's some info.
The Roche family is one of the most generous families in the Boston area, and is about as low-key about it as one could be. They have personally donated millions of dollars to charities in the area. He recently donated $20 million to BC for Catholic education, and there's a lot more besides that.
Pat Roche still has the modest house in Marshfield that he bought 40+ years ago. He could live anywhere, but it's not important to him. What is important to him is being able to help those less fortunate. This is what he does.
Where Roche Bros does business is a business decision. RB is definitely not a cheap market, and it makes little sense for them to market to places like Dorchester. That's a simple fact, like it or not. If a store in Dorchester would not be profitable for RB, why do it? I'm not familiar with New Seasons. Maybe they have a different business model that would allow them to put a store in Dudley Sq. and still make money.
Ditto
By bph
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 10:30am
They probably only deliver within a certain radius of their stores.
It's unfair to just post a knee-jerk reaction about a business discriminating against certain areas. Roche Bros has been a very good neighbor & contributes to pretty much any group you can think of, constantly donating to local fundraisers, senior groups, schools, etc.
Nope
By SwirlyGrrl
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:21pm
My area of Medford, which is fairly affluent, was much closer to their new store than areas of Lexington, Winchester, and Stoneham that were in their delivery area. If you looked at their delivery map, Medford was a clear exclusion. It was based on excluding or including entire cities or towns for whatever reason they chose, not delivery radius.
Same issue with their excluding Roxbury and Dorchester deliveries - a straight service area radius would have included parts of these areas, but they chose to exclude based on neighborhood boundaries rather than distance.
I'm guessing that they just didn't bother to find out what their potential market was like and made some assumptions that were inappropriate, from both a social and a business perspective.
you're assuming they assumed?
By pierce
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 1:02pm
you're assuming they assumed? how many asses does that make?
Guessing
By bph
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 1:05pm
I suppose someone could ask them, but I'm guessing they know exactly what their markets are.
I have no idea what the volume of their delivery service is, but a successful business knows how to be a successful business, so I'm guessing, as merlin said, that their business decisions were just that, and maybe you are making inappropriate assumptions.
Yup
By merlinmurph
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 1:22pm
My thoughts exactly.
Guess Again
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:46pm
They simply failed to look at census data - publicly available and free to download data - showing income patterns in the area. I have a hard time believing they did more than rely on outdated stereotypes.
Now that they got set straight by email outrage, I would bet they do far more delivery to Lawrence Estates, Winford, Brooks Estates, and West Medford than to North Woburn, which is far less affluent.
Maybe, maybe not
By eeka
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 6:41pm
I've e-mailed them to ask about delivery, noting the same thing (that they'll deliver to further-out areas in the other direction, but not to my place in Rox). Never got a response.
Whole Foods Symphony was doing the same thing for a while; before the store opened near MGH, they'd deliver two miles northward, to all of the North End and downtown, but wouldn't deliver one mile the other way to Roxbury; their map stopped right along where it stops being Fenway/South End and starts being Rox. They now deliver several miles in every direction using what's pretty much a radius, but the old map was obvious that they'd assumed we didn't want WF, or they didn't want to come to our hood, or whatever.
Several of the food delivery companies do the same thing, going to neighborhoods much further than mine, but not mine. Dining In "does not deliver to your ZIP code." When I e-mailed, I got a reply, saying they might expand in the future, but they need to be concerned about the safety of their drivers. Seriously. Dash Boston currently will go PAST my place to deliver from Fenway/South End restaurants to Brookline and Newton, but won't come to 02119. They won't actually change this, telling me to put in a different address to make it go through but tell the restaurant in the notes that I actually want it delivered to my address.
whole foods....HOORAY
By tenfortyseven
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 3:32pm
where do you get your insider info about Roche Bros?
and why are YOU even commenting about a store that
no one in medford is likely to shop in?
shop local, and leave JP alone with our nice, shiny, new
WHOLE FOODS.
Next on the agenda:
Starbucks
Where do you get your complete ignorance from?
By adamg
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:30pm
Just because you don't happen to live in West Roxbury or Roslindale and so don't have the slightest idea whom the Roches actually are doesn't seem to have stopped you from commenting.
Location Finder
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:41pm
Go take a look, 1047. Although it involves a scary informative map and I'm not sure you can handle the cognitive load of pressing a couple of buttons to investigate. They aren't just in Westie anymore.
And, yes, after getting dopeslapped by the local media and listserv e-mail barrages they did put in delivery to Meffuh (from their WoBurlington store). They even sent around discount coupons, which we and our neighbors took advantage of. Maybe they just had to learn the hard way that redlining entire cities out of rank ignorance is bad business. I see their trucks in town all the time.
1047's fact and logic allergy should remain his own business. Good lord - I've met fundamentalist bible college graduates with a greater reality quotient!
Roche Bros. delivery area
By Ron Newman
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 6:27pm
They now deliver to Medford and Cambridge, but not to Somerville or West Somerville which are right in between. Medford is served from the Burlington store, but Cambridge is (surprisingly to me) served from Wellesley.
See?
By eeka
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 8:29pm
It's not just simple geometry.
Roche Brothers is in Burlington
By Ron Newman
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 5:41pm
Maybe you've heard of it, two towns over from Medford?
zzzzzzz
By tenfortyseven
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 3:26pm
zzzzzzzz
Harvest
By downtown-anon
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 8:35am
No one has mentioned Harvest. I don't spend time in JP, so I don't know what I am missing, but I get to Harvest in Central Square once in a while. Is it just not that good?
http://www.harvestcoop.com/
Harvest member here
By JPSouth
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 10:12am
Live right around the corner from it. It's not as big as the one in Cambridge... more like a little, local market. It's far enough away and small enough of a neighborhood establishment that it should peacefully coexist with the Whole Foods as the Cambridge Harvest does with nearby Whole Foods and Trader Joe's locations.
Smaller/less variety
By massmarrier
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 10:41am
Harvest has the stuff WF sells, just less variety in a smaller footprint. Yet, I wonder whether WF is trying to lead the demographics in Northern JP a bit too much. The traditional organic and health-food types already have what they need in Harvest. The Hyde Square area does not have nearly the disposable income level of the Cambridge and Newton abutters of WF.
If this acquisition is typical of higher end chain ones, I'd bet Hi-Lo is profitable enough, but that WF made the owners an offer that dwarfed their current profits for years out.
The space is a very short distance from wealthier Brookline and much, much cheaper than plopping a store there. I bet WF is counting on those who find it inconvenient to drive to the WF behind the TJs off Memorial Drive.
I'm also they miscalculated on this one.
Harvest is expensive
By eeka
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 8:49pm
Harvest is much more expensive than WF, even with the membership.
BTW, there's a WF near Symphony Hall, about 1.5 miles from where this one is going.
There's also one in Brighton on Washington Street on the Brookline line.
Harvest is okay
By eiffel designs
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 11:01pm
I primarily use it for picking up things I've forgotten or end up needing on a whim. Much more likely to find what I need there than at City Feed (which is so ridiculously overpriced I don't even bother trying to purchase anything there anymore) or the Stop & Shop at Jackson (which might possibly be the worst Stop & Shop in existence).
I think Harvest will continue to do as well as it is- It will be over a mile away from the Whole Foods and it will remain the more convenient option for many of the shoppers that already use it (I usually tie it in with a stop at Polka Dog and I'm quite sure the Whole Foods will be a fucking nightmare during the first few months it is open- don't want to deal with that at all)
WF and Harvest
By anon
Wed, 01/19/2011 - 6:06pm
Love Polka Dog! I like Harvest mostly because it has good products, but their meat/poultry/fish department is SEVERELY lacking. That is something Whole Foods does incredibly well!!
By "department"
By JPSouth
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:16pm
you mean single case in the checkout aisle. Combined with the one-employee deli counter, it's like putting up a big billboard that says "WE TOLERATE OMNIVORES." I'd say meat, fish and poultry are Harvest's weakest point.
Whole Foods
By H
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 1:01pm
I for one am thrilled that Whole Foods is coming to JP. Hi-Lo served a niche market that will still be served to a large extent by a combination of Stop and Shop and the smaller bodegas in the area. But Whole Foods is a place to get a wide variety of fresh organic produce in JP, and that's something that benefits everyone. Like most places, they're also as expensive or inexpensive as you want them to be. WF has an excellent store brand that is very affordable. (I do hope they keep the Hi-Lo clock, though.)
Get rid of the working class
By anon
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 2:21pm
Get rid of the working class Latinos, but save that cool clock!
Ditch the niche?
By massmarrier
Tue, 01/18/2011 - 6:39am
Niche market, Hillary? It's not coincidence or pretense that Hyde Square bills itself as Boston's Latin Quarter. The niche is is the yuppie and hipster interlopers who visit or rent nearby.
Okay, so are only Latin
By anon
Tue, 01/18/2011 - 10:26am
Okay, so are only Latin businesses allowed to open in the Latin Quarter? Is this an autonomous region with no property rights? Billing yourself for commercial purposes is not the same as controlling the use of private property for one group of people.
Go Randists!
By massmarrier
Tue, 01/18/2011 - 10:48am
Perhaps we can declare that the new WF will only allow Libertarians and their free-market brethren. Note it was Hillary who claimed that a Latino-goods market was catering to a niche.
WF is not a businessman - they're a business, man
By callmewhatyoulike
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 2:32pm
Let them handle their business...damn!
/Kanye'd
Fact Is
By eiffel designs
Sat, 01/15/2011 - 11:13pm
JP has been in need of a decent, full sized grocery store for a pathetically long time. I live in one of the biggest neighborhoods in Boston and I have to drive to either Dorchester, West Roxbury Cambridge or Freaking Dedham to find a well stocked store with good produce. So I'll happily take the WF (and I'll prefer it to a TJs because holyshit TJ produce is uniformly awful).
What I am concerned about is the clusterfuck of traffic this is going to cause on the already difficult to traverse Centre st. I won't be going into the store for the first several months it's open- let the hype die down.
I'd love a Roche Bros or maybe just have Stop & Shop actually give a shit about the location in Jackson, but those things aren't happening. And I can't say I'll miss Hi-Lo- the only thing I ever bought there was Lizano; never could find anything else I needed there.
didnt even think of the
By pierce
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 9:27am
didnt even think of the traffic, christ that is going to be a shitshow. Think of the hawks looming in their volvo SUVs weekend afternoons in Brookline, lined up on Washington Street to get a chance to squeeze into the parking lot and wait for a spot to open. On Google Maps I count approximately 130 spaces in that lot. At Hi-Lo, despite the vastness of that lot there are only 50 spots due to its odd geometry. I'm assuming that WF will tear down the existing building and build new, and they may be able to site plan in a way that squeezes 15 more spots out of it. But even then, that doesn't seem like enough to sustain a Whole Foods--will that part of JP go parking permit on the streets? I don't know, it will definitely become an issue.
Maybe it will ease up some of that traffic at the Dedham one.
By Pete Nice
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 10:00am
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