Never saw the Rockey Horror whatever there. I just thought it was a nice theater. I've seen quite a few movies there are much preferred it to the Boston Common theater.
The original RHPS venue was the old Exeter Street Theater. There was a time when you could watch that movie and the crowd would shout out less than a dozen times during the whole thing. Within a few years, however, there were responses and actions from the audience which ran continuously. The result was that if you hadn't already seen the movie, you would never see it - the soundtrack and dialog were overwhelmed by the viewers. It wasn't until the movie was released on VHS in 1990 (MSRP of $90!!) and later on DVD that neophytes could enjoy the movie as the makers intended.
Actually, RHPS had its first theatrical run at the Orson Welles Cinema, back when it first came out and was a thudding failure in regular release. I had friends who were fans of the original London stage show, via the soundtrack album, and I saw the movie at the Welles in a nearly empty house. Only later did it catch on at midnight screenings and become a cult phenomenon.
From Brighton originally and moved here a few years back. Still check in on the site from time to time. This blog definitely earns its name: A whole lot of the site's commenters think they're in the infallible center of the universe.
I think there's a tremendous opportunity out there for an author who wants to put together a book about the demise of the 80s multiplex. They're bemoaned for killing off or subdividing the gorgeous, gilded movie houses that came before and breeding the googleplexes that followed, but that seems a lazy oversimplification.
For a generation, these places and their immediate whiff of popcorn and sound of arcade games in the lobby WERE the cinema experience. It's where we saw Friday The 13th, Back To The Future and Goonies for the first time. It's where we saw Batman, Dick Tracy and the blockbusters that begat today's blockbusters. Moreover, they were the last example of a movie as a destination event. The empty halls of Cleveland Circle cinemas and the blank marquees and decaying facilities of abandoned Showcase Cinemas along I-84 and I-90 are sad reminders of a time when suburbanites would go miles out of their way to see a movie without having it couched in a dining or shopping experience.
Like indoor malls, these multiplexes are an ingrained memory for lots of suburban kids of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Those same kids are now members of the Brattle or Coolidge and watch big releases in the city-bound Common or Kendall. The films first shown on their screens still echo in theaters today (I think of The Room or Super 8). When the multiplexes are discussed today, it's never with nostalgia, but with shame and regret. It's revisionist history and it's at least a bit dishonest.
The Brattle (rightfully) gets the accolades because it's what the audience believes a theater should be. Yet its 80s retrospectives and midnight showings owe a great deal to the multiplexes and are, perhaps, a better reflection of the multiplex generation of moviegoers.
Because my childhood multiplexes in Perth Amboy and Newark are gone, while one of the two I used to go to in Secaucus is gone while the other is on its last legs.
Plus, check out the dead theater tombstones on the way down to NYC. Showcase Cinemas has more blank marquees than functioning projectors.
That good enough for you, or are you still just all mad that somebody in the city said something?
Yes lets all talk about corporate greed, destroying landmarks and gentrification, and gloss over the fact that the showings of the RHPS have declined in ticket sales and attendance in the last 5-6 years. Eventually the guy who plays Frankenfurter got old or heavy. This is less about a venue and more about a cast. The people I know who were into about 5-6 years ago were in their mid 30s and eventually had to move on.
There comes a point where certain things aren't fun anymore. As for a 'teen outlet' I think the youngest person in the cast was 23. It may have been a late night rush to attend in high school (which I did a few times) but if you want to blame anyone, blame the vapid youth of today who'd rather text or post on FB during movies.
Sorry folks, save your liberal outrage for something else. We can talk about the 'gentrification' of Harvard Square, etc, but you'll go back to your starbucks, your free wifi, and your truffle fries and just hohum about how things have changed.
Liberal outrage, seriously? Hmm, I wonder if Elizabeth Warren ever took in a movie there.
Dude, relax. Just because you've aged out of something doesn't mean nobody else should be allowed to experience it (note: I aged out of RHPS before it moved away from the Exeter, so I'm able to harrumph and snort about these damn kids today with their Facespaces and their sexting with the best of them).
Besides, this really has nothing to do with RHPS (which I played up in the headline because it's what the theater's become most associated with) and everything to do with a chain that claims to be "improving" the movie-going experience by shutting a historic theater.
Besides, this really has [...] everything to do with a chain that claims to be "improving" the movie-going experience by shutting a historic theater.
When I went to the movies in the late eighties-early nineties, it was because there was some films I wanted to see, including the controversial ones, and I saw them at the Harvard Square theatre or at Circle Cinemas.
In the 2000s, I can count on two hands the number of times I went to see a movie in a theatre. Why did I stop going? Cost was one reason, but the main reason was that anything good in theatres would eventually come to cable, and rather than shelling out $$$ for tickets and food, I can watch shows from the comfort of my home. Furthermore, renting VHS tapes (which I did religiously in the mid nineties) and then DVDs made moviegoing unnecessary.
A movie chain doesn't shutter houses because it wants to "improve the movie-going experience." It shuts them down when people don't go to theaters anymore and that theatre is not making enough profit for the company.
The true loss was the old Harvard Square theater, with its ever-changing double features of thoughtfully paired classics, quasi-porn on weekends, and yes, Joe Strummer ripping it up (of which I still have a bootleg cassette). This corporate multiplex inserted in the square is merely a symptom of the homogenization of American public spaces; my tears were shed ages ago. And I could never envision Rocky Horror anywhere other than Exeter Street.
All that said, I don't see where the "liberal" part comes in, unless you've got some mental chain linking Hollywood filmmaking to leftish sentiment ... or just a '60s-era brain-freeze about Harvard pinkos.
This is THE mainstream Hollywood first-run multiplex for the heart of Cambridge. Without it, all that remains are the specialized Brattle, the arty Kendall Square, and the far-off Fresh Pond.
The immediate beneficiary will be the Somerville Theatre, which I like, but this is still bad for Cambridge and for the movie business in general.
The Loews Boston Common can be an out of control madhouse at times. I don't think anyone monitors the theatres, so, say when people talk throughout the movie, or people come and go as they please and as loudly as they please, it ruins the moviegoing experience for everyone else. This is an ongoing problem there and management there doesn't seem to want to do anything about it. Plus, wasn't there a shooting during a movie there fairly recently? I never remember any of these problems at the Harvard Sq cinema.
this was the theater I first saw the Road Warrior in when they did double features all the time. It's also 10 minutes from my house by bus. Love the quote from the PR stooge;
"We invite our AMC guests to got to the AMC Boston Common which is only five miles away"
Obviously the little PR maggot never saw the Clash with Bo Diddley, the Rolling Thunder Revue, Iggy with Bowie, or any of the wonderful shows that played at that wonderful venue.
Oh, well. Once Bartley's and Leavitt and Pierce go, I'll have no reason to go to Harvard Square anymore. Wonder what's going in the theater's place,one of those combo KFC/Taco Bells?
By jet-pack it's 3 miles (which is 5 km - maybe they screwed up the units?). It's 4.2 miles for law-abiding bicyclists, 3.5 for actual bicyclists. Distances courtesy: gmap-pedometer.com
It is legal to bicycle across Boston Common, but gmap-pedometer doesn't realize this. That accounts for most of the difference between their running route and their cycling route.
Google Maps says 4.2 miles driving, 3.5 miles walking. Only if you ask for biking directions do you get five miles, as that route goes the long way along the river paths.
Their bicycle directions really annoy me. In general, I'm not interested in taking the scenic route, I'm interested in getting from "A" to "B" as directly as possible, even if it means riding down a busy and possibly dangerous street. "Favor bike-friendly streets" should be a selectable option, perhaps selected "on" by default with an option to turn it off.
As an example, see what happens if you try to route yourself eastbound through the Science Center tunnel at the north edge of Harvard Yard. You cannot traverse the intersection at Broadway and Quincy Streets eastbound going straight through--you MUST turn right on Quincy St. according to GM despite that being a completely legal maneuver. This is because GM thinks the bike lane is discontinuous there.
The main (original) theatre in Somerville is frequently booked for live concerts on Saturday nights, and I don't think Rocky Horror with live cast really works in any of the new smaller cinemas there.
Edited to add: Apparently I'm misinformed, and Rocky Horror is often in one of the smaller Harvard Square cinema rooms. So perhaps it could work equally well on one of the smaller Somerville screens.
Sack Theatres changed its name to USACinemas shortly before buying the Harvard Square Theatre. USACinemas later merged with Loews, which itself later merged with AMC.
None of the former Sack Theatres have survived the two mergers and remained part of AMC (though a few are still open with independent operators, such as Lexington and Salem). This was the last USACinema to survive both mergers without being closed or spun off.
There was a Sack theatre between Fairfield and Gloucester streets before it was taken down in the late eighties. It would likely be a couple doors down from the Apple Store (which itself used to be the old gas station on the corner of Fairfield and Boylston before it was removed in the early to mid nineties).
The Paris Cinema was either torn down or gutted and turned into the current Walgreen's drug store.
I don't think the Apple Store site was ever a gas station. It is in the middle of the block, not at a corner. A two-story Copy Cop was there before it was torn down to make way for Apple.
Fidelity is now on that corner, and Apple is two buildings down the street. The gas station/parking lot was on Fairfield for a couple of decades before the lots got removed.
The Provident Bank building, then the Paris, then the Bulkie and my Dad's store above it where SuperCuts is , then Copy Cop, then an antique store whose name escapes me and then the gas station at the corner of Fairfield and Boylston.
Your dad's store? Above the old Bulkie where Supercuts is was New England Music City. I bought many, many albums there is the 70s. They were $3.29 in those days. Double albums were $4.19 but sometimes you could get them for $3.99. Somewhere on that block was also a stereo store called Cramer's, though it might have been a bit further up. They had albums also.
hi all. i'm a current performing member of the harvard square cast, and the one who passed this onto adam. we ourselves just found out last night, and for lack of better terms, we're all pretty shocked and devastated, as this theater has been our home for the last 28 years (and personally, i've been there for almost 10). basically it comes down to complications regarding renovating the theater... it's not being priced out as far as we know, for once. our director is assuring us that he's working on moving our cast to a new (hopefully permanent) home real soon. but we do still have 3 more shows, the next 3 saturdays... so it would be swell if you all came on down to harvard square and helped us throw one hell of a farewell party.
also, if you're interested in keeping up to date with what's going to happen with us in the future, our website is www.fullbodycast.org, and our facebook page is www.facebook.com/FBCRockyHorror , we'll put up new information as to our future plans as soon as we have it.
-bobby, your friendly neighborhood rocky
Bummer, I've been going to this one a lot for stuff that doesn't come up at Somerville Theatre. How are the theatres at Fresh Pond? I'd heard they're a bit divey, but don't wanna have to drive to Revere or go all the way into the Common.
This is a loss for Harvard Square. But Harvard Square has been transforming into an outdoor mall of national brands for years. If Harvard Square had the physical space to support another absurdo-plex such as the Common and Fenway then perhaps first run cinema would return to the Square. For movies it's about scale: the most screens run by the fewest employees.
I see this as a continuation of scaling retail businesses to mammoth sizes in order to maximize the per employee output as well force manufacturers to sell at the lowest cost possible (regardless of who pays for that low cost). Walmart is the king of that game. Whether this is a winning game for communities or a nation is another question.
Goods are sold at the lowest retail possible. But do we pay a price for low cost? Would more people by employed in smaller and local retail if the Walmarts and Targets did not exist? My guess is that the answer is yes. The profit that is earned by the big box stores also leaves the local economy sooner and so does not circulate as much locally. The result is that less local circulation means fewer tax dollars for maintaining paying for publicly funded goods.
It also means greater homogenization of with an emphasis on uniformity instead of quality. The homogenization also results in loosing identity though that is probably of little importance to most. The negative economic impact is also increased: When a big box store closes a store it means a larger hole in the local economy and a hole in the physical location. If a big box corporation goes belly up (e.g,. Circuit City) the results are that large numbers of people layed off with greater harm to the national economy.
The Irish potato famine is a good analogy. The famine happened in part due to reliance upon a single variety of potato. One disease wiped out the majority of food for the Irish nation. Had there been greater variety and diversity perhaps the famine would not have happened.
Reliance upon too few employers, businesses and suppliers will have the same result. How few near or actual bankruptcies of a small number of financial corporations severely damaged the U.S. and global economies?
About the companies wanting as few employees as possible. That's why cinemas have embraced digital and 3D. No need for projectionists. You can have one person cheack all screens. Just like they only have one usher check all the theaters. Of course quality suffers but people either don't care or learn to live with it if they want to go to the movies. Sad situation.
There is literally nothing in this comment that has anything to do with the actual economics of running a movie theater.
Here's how it works: theaters "rent" a print of a movie. Generally, that rent is really a contract: for getting the print, you pay a weekly fee plus a percentage of the gross receipts. Usually that percentage declines over the weeks: week one it can be anywhere from 65% to 90% of the gross, and it drops by five to ten percent per week. The terms vary from studio to studio and from theater to theater. The Brattle probably paid a lot less to screen "Cure for Pain" than the Loews is paying to screen "Prometheus".
If this sounds like it's a terrible deal for the theater, it is: even with ticket prices steadily rising and gimmicks like 3D and semIMAX, $12 to $15 a head isn't nearly enough to cover the cost of print rental.
So how do they make up costs? Concessions. Your average movie theater is literally nothing more than an overpriced snack stand with a bunch of TVs attached to it in the eyes of bean counters.
You are correct in that they limit labor, but the reality is, you haven't needed a projectionist to sit there and stare at the screen for decades, and if the usher comes in more than once an hour, you get complaints. One well trained projectionist really can run an entire multiplex at this point. As for ushers, if an usher walks in more than once an hour, you get complaints. I speak from personal experience on this one, I essentially ran a theater as a teenager on weekend mornings (projectionist, ticket sales, candy, the works).
Odds are pretty good that the reason the 6 is being shut down, if they're not being priced out, is because it's not selling enough candy and soda.
that's like comparing listening to a CD vs. seeing the band live in concert. the movie is junk, we all know that. it's campy, horribly edited, and at times downright awful. its all about the experience, the yelling callback lines at the movie, throwing rice during the wedding, etc.... that makes people keep coming back, and why our cast (and many others) have been doing this for 30+ years.
At the risk of offending cast or fans, I'm wondering if the whole Rocky Horror phenomenon is pretty much an anachronism at this point. Are kids really into this kind of thing now? It's a whole new social media world out there and it seems Rocky is running on tradition more than any new enthusiasm on the part of up and coming kids. At this point it seems quaint rather than outrageous.
no offense taken. but if people weren't still getting into it, the midnight showings would have died out a long time ago. we're not selling out a 500 seat theater each week, but we will often get 50 people on an average night (some much much more...halloween we DO sell out that 500 seat theater, multiple times over the weekend) who come out to have a good time. and yeah, it's a young crowd. i know the next few weeks are going to be full of a lot of 'old-timers' coming to say goodbye to that theater, but once we're settled into our new theater, i invite you to come out and see the show for yourself. you'll probably be quite surprised at how generally young the crowd, and the cast itself, actually is.
Yes, in h.s. took a bunch of german exchange students to RHPS in harvard square (1985 or 86?). One of the students had been so thoughtful and baked a struedel for me as a gift and presented it to me in front of the theater just before the midnight show...
Who the hell wants to carry struedel to RHPS & then lug it home on the train to dorchester?
obviously not me.
so during the "Toast!" I lobbed the strudel.
I seriously have guilt feelings over this and hope that the exchange student never saw what I did.
However, I can't help but laugh every time I think of the poor schlub who ended up wearing my strudel home.
No one has mentioned that this is one of the last old-time theatres in metro Boston -- certainly the last to be operated by a cinema chain. The Coolidge, Somerville, Capitol in Arlington, West Newton, and Lexington theatres are all independents.
It's also one of the last Boston-area cinemas near a subway station. The only others that come to mind are Boston Common, Fenway, Coolidge, and Somerville. No, Kendall and Fresh Pond are NOT convenient to the T, in my opinion.
The theatre opened in 1926 as the University Theatre. I think there's still a faded sign for the University painted high up on a wall, facing Church St.
The entrance was originally through a storefront facing Mass. Ave., I think where the convenience store is now.
An elderly neighbor of mine once told me that her older sister had gone to see a film there on a nice September day in 1938. She came out of the theatre to discover the great hurricane blowing through Harvard Square. My neighbor hadn't gone with her sister, because she wasn't old enough.
It was independently operated well into the 1970s. In the late 1960s or early '70s it changed from first-run to a policy of second run double-bills, a different pair of films every day. It was also used for concerts. In one very famous show, Bruce Springsteen opened for Bonnie Raitt on May 9, 1974; Jon Landau wrote a review for the Real Paper that said "I saw rock 'n' roll's future and its name is Bruce Springsteen."
It also hosted "Oh! Calcutta!" when that show was banned in Boston (but not banned in Cambridge), and a noted lecture series by Leonard Bernstein.
In the early or mid 1970s it was converted first to a two-screen house if I recall correctly. When USA Cinemas (mentioned by Ron above) bought it, they converted it to a multiplex and moved the entrance to Church St. When multiplexes first came into fashion, of course, many of them were created by dividing up older theatres.
The mural facing Church St. was painted by Josh Winer in 1983.
A big question in my mind is what will happen to the building. Perhaps an independent operator will be interested in buying it? Yes, it's valuable real estate, but Harvard Square is a historic district and city permission will be required to demolish it.
According the Cambridge Assessor's Database, the building is owned by "THEATRE HOLDINGS, INC. , C/O LEASE ADMINISTRATION" at 920 Main St., Kansas City, MO. Google and Wikipedia report that this address is the corporate HQ of American Multi Cinema Inc. a/k/a AMC Entertainment Inc.
... some time in the early 1980s. This is also when they moved the entrance off Mass. Ave onto Church Street. The old cinema entrance became Ruggles Pizza.
Later, some time after USACinemas bought it (and maybe even after the merger with Loews), they added two more screens to make the current five.
I've heard that FEI (owner of the Somerville and Capitol) have in the past expressed interest in buying and operating the Harvard Square, but AMC was not interested in selling to them.
One more to add to your short list of cinemas near subway stations: the Brattle Theatre.
And one more for your list of independent cinemas: the single-screen Studio on Trapelo Road in Belmont (owned by the same folks as the West Newton)
I don't think it's the moviegoing public that's the problem. Let me guess, you're the sane one and everybody else is insane and trying to steal your magic bag.
to be replaced by a Showcase/National Amusements 'Cinema de Lux', at a different location in the same strip mall. This was originally a General Cinema -- and I think the flagship of that chain.
Such a sad concept. Suburban moviegoers don't want to leave their living rooms, so it brings the living room to them. For when you don't even have the creative energy to spring for some Olive Garden...
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That's a shame.
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 7:28am
Never saw the Rockey Horror whatever there. I just thought it was a nice theater. I've seen quite a few movies there are much preferred it to the Boston Common theater.
It's a bit of a mind flip
By Lanny Budd
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 7:34am
The original RHPS venue was the old Exeter Street Theater. There was a time when you could watch that movie and the crowd would shout out less than a dozen times during the whole thing. Within a few years, however, there were responses and actions from the audience which ran continuously. The result was that if you hadn't already seen the movie, you would never see it - the soundtrack and dialog were overwhelmed by the viewers. It wasn't until the movie was released on VHS in 1990 (MSRP of $90!!) and later on DVD that neophytes could enjoy the movie as the makers intended.
Orson Welles
By Allstonian
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:00am
Actually, RHPS had its first theatrical run at the Orson Welles Cinema, back when it first came out and was a thudding failure in regular release. I had friends who were fans of the original London stage show, via the soundtrack album, and I saw the movie at the Welles in a nearly empty house. Only later did it catch on at midnight screenings and become a cult phenomenon.
Waverly
By Columbia
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:38am
Nope. First opened in the U.S. in Westwood, Calif. The Orson on Mass Ave didn't get it until way later.
It also didn't get the cult treatment until it came to the Waverly on Sixth Ave in the Village in '76. Those were the first midnights.
Since this is, you know,
By NotWhitey
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:11am
Since this is, you know, Massachusetts, I'm guessing that the poster was referring to the first run in the Boston market.
Indeed
By Allstonian
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:18am
You are correct, sir.
Umm...
By AustinBeard
Fri, 06/22/2012 - 7:25am
You know this is the Worldwide Web, right? That's how I'm seeing this page in Austin, Texas.
A shame about your theater and your RHPS. Makes me glad we have the Drafthouse.
Western Pa. checking in
By Latrobia
Fri, 06/22/2012 - 11:52am
From Brighton originally and moved here a few years back. Still check in on the site from time to time. This blog definitely earns its name: A whole lot of the site's commenters think they're in the infallible center of the universe.
That's not the way I remember it.
Jumping to the left a moment
By NaranjaLine
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:03am
I think there's a tremendous opportunity out there for an author who wants to put together a book about the demise of the 80s multiplex. They're bemoaned for killing off or subdividing the gorgeous, gilded movie houses that came before and breeding the googleplexes that followed, but that seems a lazy oversimplification.
For a generation, these places and their immediate whiff of popcorn and sound of arcade games in the lobby WERE the cinema experience. It's where we saw Friday The 13th, Back To The Future and Goonies for the first time. It's where we saw Batman, Dick Tracy and the blockbusters that begat today's blockbusters. Moreover, they were the last example of a movie as a destination event. The empty halls of Cleveland Circle cinemas and the blank marquees and decaying facilities of abandoned Showcase Cinemas along I-84 and I-90 are sad reminders of a time when suburbanites would go miles out of their way to see a movie without having it couched in a dining or shopping experience.
Like indoor malls, these multiplexes are an ingrained memory for lots of suburban kids of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Those same kids are now members of the Brattle or Coolidge and watch big releases in the city-bound Common or Kendall. The films first shown on their screens still echo in theaters today (I think of The Room or Super 8). When the multiplexes are discussed today, it's never with nostalgia, but with shame and regret. It's revisionist history and it's at least a bit dishonest.
The Brattle (rightfully) gets the accolades because it's what the audience believes a theater should be. Yet its 80s retrospectives and midnight showings owe a great deal to the multiplexes and are, perhaps, a better reflection of the multiplex generation of moviegoers.
It's not true, I did not hit her, it's bullshit, I did NOT!
By Tommy Wiseau
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:49am
Oh, hai Mark!
You are tearing me apart, Lisa!
By NaranjaLine
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:04am
... anyway, how is your sex life?
anyway,
By everyone in tha...
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:21am
I gotta go.
He's my
By jaygee
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:44am
BEST FRIEND
You know that just because
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:47pm
You know that just because you moved in from the suburbs doesn't mean they stopped existing, right?
Really?
By NaranjaLine
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:23pm
Because my childhood multiplexes in Perth Amboy and Newark are gone, while one of the two I used to go to in Secaucus is gone while the other is on its last legs.
Plus, check out the dead theater tombstones on the way down to NYC. Showcase Cinemas has more blank marquees than functioning projectors.
That good enough for you, or are you still just all mad that somebody in the city said something?
What's the matter, suburbanite?
By YouThinkYoureBe...
Fri, 06/22/2012 - 7:20am
All those hoodies and Skittles around your gated community putting you on edge?
Here comes the whining old white people...
By Edddddddiiiiiii...
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:49am
Yes lets all talk about corporate greed, destroying landmarks and gentrification, and gloss over the fact that the showings of the RHPS have declined in ticket sales and attendance in the last 5-6 years. Eventually the guy who plays Frankenfurter got old or heavy. This is less about a venue and more about a cast. The people I know who were into about 5-6 years ago were in their mid 30s and eventually had to move on.
There comes a point where certain things aren't fun anymore. As for a 'teen outlet' I think the youngest person in the cast was 23. It may have been a late night rush to attend in high school (which I did a few times) but if you want to blame anyone, blame the vapid youth of today who'd rather text or post on FB during movies.
Sorry folks, save your liberal outrage for something else. We can talk about the 'gentrification' of Harvard Square, etc, but you'll go back to your starbucks, your free wifi, and your truffle fries and just hohum about how things have changed.
Damn kids, get offa his lawn
By adamg
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:02am
Liberal outrage, seriously? Hmm, I wonder if Elizabeth Warren ever took in a movie there.
Dude, relax. Just because you've aged out of something doesn't mean nobody else should be allowed to experience it (note: I aged out of RHPS before it moved away from the Exeter, so I'm able to harrumph and snort about these damn kids today with their Facespaces and their sexting with the best of them).
Besides, this really has nothing to do with RHPS (which I played up in the headline because it's what the theater's become most associated with) and everything to do with a chain that claims to be "improving" the movie-going experience by shutting a historic theater.
Amen, Adam
By Cleary Squared
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:02am
Besides, this really has [...] everything to do with a chain that claims to be "improving" the movie-going experience by shutting a historic theater.
When I went to the movies in the late eighties-early nineties, it was because there was some films I wanted to see, including the controversial ones, and I saw them at the Harvard Square theatre or at Circle Cinemas.
In the 2000s, I can count on two hands the number of times I went to see a movie in a theatre. Why did I stop going? Cost was one reason, but the main reason was that anything good in theatres would eventually come to cable, and rather than shelling out $$$ for tickets and food, I can watch shows from the comfort of my home. Furthermore, renting VHS tapes (which I did religiously in the mid nineties) and then DVDs made moviegoing unnecessary.
A movie chain doesn't shutter houses because it wants to "improve the movie-going experience." It shuts them down when people don't go to theaters anymore and that theatre is not making enough profit for the company.
Some conservative outrage
By ijustworkhere
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:08am
Hey, kid, get off my internet.
The true loss was the old Harvard Square theater, with its ever-changing double features of thoughtfully paired classics, quasi-porn on weekends, and yes, Joe Strummer ripping it up (of which I still have a bootleg cassette). This corporate multiplex inserted in the square is merely a symptom of the homogenization of American public spaces; my tears were shed ages ago. And I could never envision Rocky Horror anywhere other than Exeter Street.
All that said, I don't see where the "liberal" part comes in, unless you've got some mental chain linking Hollywood filmmaking to leftish sentiment ... or just a '60s-era brain-freeze about Harvard pinkos.
it's not just about Rocky Horror
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:52am
This is THE mainstream Hollywood first-run multiplex for the heart of Cambridge. Without it, all that remains are the specialized Brattle, the arty Kendall Square, and the far-off Fresh Pond.
The immediate beneficiary will be the Somerville Theatre, which I like, but this is still bad for Cambridge and for the movie business in general.
Not to mention...
By Neal
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:37am
The Loews Boston Common can be an out of control madhouse at times. I don't think anyone monitors the theatres, so, say when people talk throughout the movie, or people come and go as they please and as loudly as they please, it ruins the moviegoing experience for everyone else. This is an ongoing problem there and management there doesn't seem to want to do anything about it. Plus, wasn't there a shooting during a movie there fairly recently? I never remember any of these problems at the Harvard Sq cinema.
There's another movie option
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:31pm
There's another movie option in Cambridge: LSC at MIT. They show second-run films, and occasional art films/classics, most weekends.
Forget the RHPS....
By Brian Riccio
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:16am
this was the theater I first saw the Road Warrior in when they did double features all the time. It's also 10 minutes from my house by bus. Love the quote from the PR stooge;
"We invite our AMC guests to got to the AMC Boston Common which is only five miles away"
Obviously the little PR maggot never saw the Clash with Bo Diddley, the Rolling Thunder Revue, Iggy with Bowie, or any of the wonderful shows that played at that wonderful venue.
Oh, well. Once Bartley's and Leavitt and Pierce go, I'll have no reason to go to Harvard Square anymore. Wonder what's going in the theater's place,one of those combo KFC/Taco Bells?
The Clash won't be back. Calm
By NotWhitey
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:14am
The Clash won't be back. Calm down.
Five miles?
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:30am
Is the AMC Boston Common actually five miles away from Harvard Square? It seems like it is less.
3 miles
By Actual Bicyclist
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:51am
By jet-pack it's 3 miles (which is 5 km - maybe they screwed up the units?). It's 4.2 miles for law-abiding bicyclists, 3.5 for actual bicyclists. Distances courtesy: gmap-pedometer.com
Gmap-pedometer running vs cycling route
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 1:09pm
It is legal to bicycle across Boston Common, but gmap-pedometer doesn't realize this. That accounts for most of the difference between their running route and their cycling route.
Harvard Square to Loews Boston Common distance
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:00pm
Google Maps says 4.2 miles driving, 3.5 miles walking. Only if you ask for biking directions do you get five miles, as that route goes the long way along the river paths.
Google Maps
By BikerGeek
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 1:37pm
Their bicycle directions really annoy me. In general, I'm not interested in taking the scenic route, I'm interested in getting from "A" to "B" as directly as possible, even if it means riding down a busy and possibly dangerous street. "Favor bike-friendly streets" should be a selectable option, perhaps selected "on" by default with an option to turn it off.
As an example, see what happens if you try to route yourself eastbound through the Science Center tunnel at the north edge of Harvard Yard. You cannot traverse the intersection at Broadway and Quincy Streets eastbound going straight through--you MUST turn right on Quincy St. according to GM despite that being a completely legal maneuver. This is because GM thinks the bike lane is discontinuous there.
It depends on which ailment
By Saul
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:52pm
It depends on which ailment has inflicted the Red Line on any given day.
Rocky Horror in Somerville - probably not
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:43pm
The main (original) theatre in Somerville is frequently booked for live concerts on Saturday nights, and
I don't think Rocky Horror with live cast really works in any of the new smaller cinemas there.Edited to add: Apparently I'm misinformed, and Rocky Horror is often in one of the smaller Harvard Square cinema rooms. So perhaps it could work equally well on one of the smaller Somerville screens.
What's the point of even going to the movie theater
By spenser
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:52am
if you won't be able to drink a 40 oz. soda.
Much less the giant popcorn
By NotWhitey
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:15am
Much less the giant popcorn box. So true.
Last of the USACinemas
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:15am
Sack Theatres changed its name to USACinemas shortly before buying the Harvard Square Theatre. USACinemas later merged with Loews, which itself later merged with AMC.
None of the former Sack Theatres have survived the two mergers and remained part of AMC (though a few are still open with independent operators, such as Lexington and Salem). This was the last USACinema to survive both mergers without being closed or spun off.
Sack Theatre on Boylston Street
By Cleary Squared
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:40am
There was a Sack theatre between Fairfield and Gloucester streets before it was taken down in the late eighties. It would likely be a couple doors down from the Apple Store (which itself used to be the old gas station on the corner of Fairfield and Boylston before it was removed in the early to mid nineties).
Paris Cinema
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:27am
That would be the Paris Cinema. Woody Allen premiered a lot of his movies there.
now a Walgreen's
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:45am
The Paris Cinema was either torn down or gutted and turned into the current Walgreen's drug store.
I don't think the Apple Store site was ever a gas station. It is in the middle of the block, not at a corner. A two-story Copy Cop was there before it was torn down to make way for Apple.
I stand corrected :-)
By Cleary Squared
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 7:41pm
Fidelity is now on that corner, and Apple is two buildings down the street. The gas station/parking lot was on Fairfield for a couple of decades before the lots got removed.
It went like this
By Brian Riccio
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:36pm
The Provident Bank building, then the Paris, then the Bulkie and my Dad's store above it where SuperCuts is , then Copy Cop, then an antique store whose name escapes me and then the gas station at the corner of Fairfield and Boylston.
New England Music City
By anon
Fri, 06/22/2012 - 12:51am
Your dad's store? Above the old Bulkie where Supercuts is was New England Music City. I bought many, many albums there is the 70s. They were $3.29 in those days. Double albums were $4.19 but sometimes you could get them for $3.99. Somewhere on that block was also a stereo store called Cramer's, though it might have been a bit further up. They had albums also.
Nope,sorry
By Brian Riccio
Sat, 06/23/2012 - 8:49am
My dad had the used record store that went in after NEMC closed. We were there for about 6 years.
Is this Paris cinema related to the Worcester one?
By Alex_Toth
Fri, 06/22/2012 - 10:49am
There's one in Worcester downtown near the mall formerly know as the "Worcester Common Fashion Outlets". Last time I saw it, it was a XXX theater :-)
Can't imagine it survived the arrival of the internet though.
hi all. i'm a current
By cleokid
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:57am
hi all. i'm a current performing member of the harvard square cast, and the one who passed this onto adam. we ourselves just found out last night, and for lack of better terms, we're all pretty shocked and devastated, as this theater has been our home for the last 28 years (and personally, i've been there for almost 10). basically it comes down to complications regarding renovating the theater... it's not being priced out as far as we know, for once. our director is assuring us that he's working on moving our cast to a new (hopefully permanent) home real soon. but we do still have 3 more shows, the next 3 saturdays... so it would be swell if you all came on down to harvard square and helped us throw one hell of a farewell party.
also, if you're interested in keeping up to date with what's going to happen with us in the future, our website is www.fullbodycast.org, and our facebook page is www.facebook.com/FBCRockyHorror , we'll put up new information as to our future plans as soon as we have it.
-bobby, your friendly neighborhood rocky
Bummer, I've been going to
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:24am
Bummer, I've been going to this one a lot for stuff that doesn't come up at Somerville Theatre. How are the theatres at Fresh Pond? I'd heard they're a bit divey, but don't wanna have to drive to Revere or go all the way into the Common.
Size, scale and cost?
By MovingForwardor...
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:40am
This is a loss for Harvard Square. But Harvard Square has been transforming into an outdoor mall of national brands for years. If Harvard Square had the physical space to support another absurdo-plex such as the Common and Fenway then perhaps first run cinema would return to the Square. For movies it's about scale: the most screens run by the fewest employees.
I see this as a continuation of scaling retail businesses to mammoth sizes in order to maximize the per employee output as well force manufacturers to sell at the lowest cost possible (regardless of who pays for that low cost). Walmart is the king of that game. Whether this is a winning game for communities or a nation is another question.
Goods are sold at the lowest retail possible. But do we pay a price for low cost? Would more people by employed in smaller and local retail if the Walmarts and Targets did not exist? My guess is that the answer is yes. The profit that is earned by the big box stores also leaves the local economy sooner and so does not circulate as much locally. The result is that less local circulation means fewer tax dollars for maintaining paying for publicly funded goods.
It also means greater homogenization of with an emphasis on uniformity instead of quality. The homogenization also results in loosing identity though that is probably of little importance to most. The negative economic impact is also increased: When a big box store closes a store it means a larger hole in the local economy and a hole in the physical location. If a big box corporation goes belly up (e.g,. Circuit City) the results are that large numbers of people layed off with greater harm to the national economy.
The Irish potato famine is a good analogy. The famine happened in part due to reliance upon a single variety of potato. One disease wiped out the majority of food for the Irish nation. Had there been greater variety and diversity perhaps the famine would not have happened.
Reliance upon too few employers, businesses and suppliers will have the same result. How few near or actual bankruptcies of a small number of financial corporations severely damaged the U.S. and global economies?
You're right
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:03pm
About the companies wanting as few employees as possible. That's why cinemas have embraced digital and 3D. No need for projectionists. You can have one person cheack all screens. Just like they only have one usher check all the theaters. Of course quality suffers but people either don't care or learn to live with it if they want to go to the movies. Sad situation.
There is literally nothing in
By Dan Seitz
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:40pm
There is literally nothing in this comment that has anything to do with the actual economics of running a movie theater.
Here's how it works: theaters "rent" a print of a movie. Generally, that rent is really a contract: for getting the print, you pay a weekly fee plus a percentage of the gross receipts. Usually that percentage declines over the weeks: week one it can be anywhere from 65% to 90% of the gross, and it drops by five to ten percent per week. The terms vary from studio to studio and from theater to theater. The Brattle probably paid a lot less to screen "Cure for Pain" than the Loews is paying to screen "Prometheus".
If this sounds like it's a terrible deal for the theater, it is: even with ticket prices steadily rising and gimmicks like 3D and semIMAX, $12 to $15 a head isn't nearly enough to cover the cost of print rental.
So how do they make up costs? Concessions. Your average movie theater is literally nothing more than an overpriced snack stand with a bunch of TVs attached to it in the eyes of bean counters.
You are correct in that they limit labor, but the reality is, you haven't needed a projectionist to sit there and stare at the screen for decades, and if the usher comes in more than once an hour, you get complaints. One well trained projectionist really can run an entire multiplex at this point. As for ushers, if an usher walks in more than once an hour, you get complaints. I speak from personal experience on this one, I essentially ran a theater as a teenager on weekend mornings (projectionist, ticket sales, candy, the works).
Odds are pretty good that the reason the 6 is being shut down, if they're not being priced out, is because it's not selling enough candy and soda.
"Much needed social outlet
By Dan Seitz
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:41pm
"Much needed social outlet for teens?"
Look, I love the movie, but what planet does this guy live on? Teens watch this movie on VH1 every Halloween.
that's like comparing
By cleokid
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:16pm
that's like comparing listening to a CD vs. seeing the band live in concert. the movie is junk, we all know that. it's campy, horribly edited, and at times downright awful. its all about the experience, the yelling callback lines at the movie, throwing rice during the wedding, etc.... that makes people keep coming back, and why our cast (and many others) have been doing this for 30+ years.
Anachronism?
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:35pm
At the risk of offending cast or fans, I'm wondering if the whole Rocky Horror phenomenon is pretty much an anachronism at this point. Are kids really into this kind of thing now? It's a whole new social media world out there and it seems Rocky is running on tradition more than any new enthusiasm on the part of up and coming kids. At this point it seems quaint rather than outrageous.
no offense taken. but if
By cleokid
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:58pm
no offense taken. but if people weren't still getting into it, the midnight showings would have died out a long time ago. we're not selling out a 500 seat theater each week, but we will often get 50 people on an average night (some much much more...halloween we DO sell out that 500 seat theater, multiple times over the weekend) who come out to have a good time. and yeah, it's a young crowd. i know the next few weeks are going to be full of a lot of 'old-timers' coming to say goodbye to that theater, but once we're settled into our new theater, i invite you to come out and see the show for yourself. you'll probably be quite surprised at how generally young the crowd, and the cast itself, actually is.
What about...
By anon
Fri, 06/22/2012 - 7:27am
The Davis Square Theater? Might be a good fit for midnight shows.
Do you mean the Somerville Theatre?
By Ron Newman
Fri, 06/22/2012 - 1:45pm
I don't think the Davis Square Theatre (a block away, on the other side of Elm Street) has the capability of projecting movies.
NOOOOOoooo!
By bibliotequetress
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:43pm
Forget Rocky Horror-- I'm just bummed that another real theatre is closing.
Struedel Yes, in h.s. took a
By anon
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:53pm
Struedel
Yes, in h.s. took a bunch of german exchange students to RHPS in harvard square (1985 or 86?). One of the students had been so thoughtful and baked a struedel for me as a gift and presented it to me in front of the theater just before the midnight show...
Who the hell wants to carry struedel to RHPS & then lug it home on the train to dorchester?
obviously not me.
so during the "Toast!" I lobbed the strudel.
I seriously have guilt feelings over this and hope that the exchange student never saw what I did.
However, I can't help but laugh every time I think of the poor schlub who ended up wearing my strudel home.
mea culpa
One of the last
By Charles Bahne
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 7:24pm
No one has mentioned that this is one of the last old-time theatres in metro Boston -- certainly the last to be operated by a cinema chain. The Coolidge, Somerville, Capitol in Arlington, West Newton, and Lexington theatres are all independents.
It's also one of the last Boston-area cinemas near a subway station. The only others that come to mind are Boston Common, Fenway, Coolidge, and Somerville. No, Kendall and Fresh Pond are NOT convenient to the T, in my opinion.
The theatre opened in 1926 as the University Theatre. I think there's still a faded sign for the University painted high up on a wall, facing Church St.
The entrance was originally through a storefront facing Mass. Ave., I think where the convenience store is now.
An elderly neighbor of mine once told me that her older sister had gone to see a film there on a nice September day in 1938. She came out of the theatre to discover the great hurricane blowing through Harvard Square. My neighbor hadn't gone with her sister, because she wasn't old enough.
It was independently operated well into the 1970s. In the late 1960s or early '70s it changed from first-run to a policy of second run double-bills, a different pair of films every day. It was also used for concerts. In one very famous show, Bruce Springsteen opened for Bonnie Raitt on May 9, 1974; Jon Landau wrote a review for the Real Paper that said "I saw rock 'n' roll's future and its name is Bruce Springsteen."
It also hosted "Oh! Calcutta!" when that show was banned in Boston (but not banned in Cambridge), and a noted lecture series by Leonard Bernstein.
In the early or mid 1970s it was converted first to a two-screen house if I recall correctly. When USA Cinemas (mentioned by Ron above) bought it, they converted it to a multiplex and moved the entrance to Church St. When multiplexes first came into fashion, of course, many of them were created by dividing up older theatres.
The mural facing Church St. was painted by Josh Winer in 1983.
A big question in my mind is what will happen to the building. Perhaps an independent operator will be interested in buying it? Yes, it's valuable real estate, but Harvard Square is a historic district and city permission will be required to demolish it.
According the Cambridge Assessor's Database, the building is owned by "THEATRE HOLDINGS, INC. , C/O LEASE ADMINISTRATION" at 920 Main St., Kansas City, MO. Google and Wikipedia report that this address is the corporate HQ of American Multi Cinema Inc. a/k/a AMC Entertainment Inc.
Was turned into a triplex while still independent, I think ...
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:20pm
... some time in the early 1980s. This is also when they moved the entrance off Mass. Ave onto Church Street. The old cinema entrance became Ruggles Pizza.
Later, some time after USACinemas bought it (and maybe even after the merger with Loews), they added two more screens to make the current five.
I've heard that FEI (owner of the Somerville and Capitol) have in the past expressed interest in buying and operating the Harvard Square, but AMC was not interested in selling to them.
One more to add to your short list of cinemas near subway stations: the Brattle Theatre.
And one more for your list of independent cinemas: the single-screen Studio on Trapelo Road in Belmont (owned by the same folks as the West Newton)
Yet another independent
By Michael Kerpan
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:42pm
Dedham Community Theatre: http://www.dedhamcommunitytheatre.com/
Theater
By BH
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:09pm
was a shitty place to see a movie. Sayonara.
I barely go to the show anymore because the general moviegoing public sucks.
Judging by your comment
By NaranjaLine
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:25pm
I don't think it's the moviegoing public that's the problem. Let me guess, you're the sane one and everybody else is insane and trying to steal your magic bag.
Good luck with that.
AMC Chestnut Hill will also close within the next year
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:23pm
to be replaced by a Showcase/National Amusements 'Cinema de Lux', at a different location in the same strip mall. This was originally a General Cinema -- and I think the flagship of that chain.
CineLux
By Blanco
Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:28pm
Such a sad concept. Suburban moviegoers don't want to leave their living rooms, so it brings the living room to them. For when you don't even have the creative energy to spring for some Olive Garden...