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Blood and coffee at the Dunkin' Donuts

Reta Rampino writes in to relay the following:

Early Monday morning at Dunkin' Donuts on Spring Street in West Roxbury, while my friend, Kim K. was getting a coffee, a fight broke out between two of the dozen students that were sitting at the tables. They were from the High School/Complex, or whatever they turned Westie into. The fight involved two girls, Kim didn't see what had happened, she was pushed into the corner with other people. One of the girls was screaming and the other was yelling, "Bitch, I told you that I would cut you." The police were called and were there in less than 3 minutes, the entire incident was over within 5 minutes. Kim says there was blood and coffee all over the floor, but no one was seriously injured.

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"Bitch, I told you I would cut you" i usually try to get the hell out of there.I grew up riding the T and saw lots of after/before school fights but i will say one thing, the girls are the scariest because they will cut you.and they will gang up.my rule was to never make eye contact with the girls that looked like they were in a pack.it never ended pretty.

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Roughest fight I heard about involved two females, a boxcutter and 47 stitches.

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blood and coffee all over the floor, as if spilling coffee is the same as spilling blood.

high school kids carrying knives and using them on other people in a dispute. f*ck, what is the world coming to?

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Easy for you to say... have you seen the price of a large frapachino lately!!!!

I was there and the place was an orgy of blood and coffee!!

There must have been thousands of dollars of coffee on the floor and we are in a RECESSION a-hole!!!

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I have been collecting unemployment for 2 years AND I spilled a 2 dollar ice coffee on my leather jacket!

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Mass doesn't pay unemployment insurance for 104 weeks.

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a-hole. i buy my coffee by the pound, not the cup for the same reason. why are you yelling?

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You might want to find another place on which to rant.

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I tried that before, but if you make ICE coffee that way it comes out terrible. I tried to return the unused portion but they said that since I opened it I could not return it so I had to get my sister to trade it for half a pack of cigarettes.

If you read my post more carefully you would have noticed that I specifically said that I spilled ICE coffee on my leather jacket.

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drivel

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hey petro i see your still spazzin around rosi huh? its been a while

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Somebody needs to switch to Decaf.

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I haven't heard "Bitch, I told you that I would cut you." since my Thanksgiving dinner.

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My mom used to cut corners too, but she never went that far.

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end busing please.

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Maybe. I'm too tired right now to argue for school-choice at the elementary level, or to bring up the fact that there's no more 70s-style race-based busing in the city (oops, I just did).

But there are whole swaths of the city without high schools these days. Would seem kind of stupid to spend millions of dollars to build new high schools just so some West Roxbury residents never have to see black people again (or for that matter, to build a new high school in Mattapan just so a particular city councilor can get his name on a plaque).

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Does this mean anonymous would like to end Boston Latin, too? Or just make it a local high school for the neighborhood.

I can't think of any mid- to large-size city in the US that still has local high schools. Most take advantage of the larger populations to offer more options. Most NYC people I knew at MIT went to one of the math/science high schools. Some had siblings at other exam schools or at the performing arts high school or other schools dedicated to design and other specialties.

In short, neighborhood identity is not considered a goal of education. Nor should it be, given how people need to move around for jobs and housing in the modern world.

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I'm reminded how much people need to move around every day, when I drive all the way up 128 to my job in Burlington.

I don't like it, though. I'd rather work somewhere I could walk to or bike to. I think that would be better for my health (I'd get more exercise), better for my community (I'd know my neighbors better, and participate more), and better for the environment (I wouldn't spew so much exhaust into the air or use up so much resources).

Busing, with all the integrative purpose gone (Boston schools are less mixed today than they were in the sixties) seems like little more than training for a commuter future.

For the same reasons it would be better if I worked closer to home, it would be better if kids went to school closer to home. There's a closed school right down the street from me. But someone decided that it would be better if kids didn't walk down the street to that now-closed building, but got on a bus instead.

As for the NYC exam-school kids at MIT, the fact that these kids are at MIT doesn't prove that going to the schools enabled them to go there. It may just prove that the smartest and most ambitious kids in the city end up going to those schools. It's also a recognized phenomenon in education that kids whose parents care enough to move them to the best schools do better.

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My job is 6.25 miles distant - nasty traffic, but biking distance for certain. Lots of public transit, too, if unreliable.

#1 son's middle school is 2.75 miles away, but on the way to my work so we can bike together. #2 son's elementary school is .75 miles away and we walk most every day, and I bike or take the train. The high school is most easily reached by a <1km hike through the woods.

I found it interesting that lots of older folks were throwing fits about kids not being able to walk when they closed the collapsing neighborhood schools in Medford. The state paid 95% or so for four larger brand new ones with such "frills" as gyms, cafeterias, working heating systems, potable water, libraries, science labs, etc.

I got out my ArcGIS maps, census data, etc. and had a look. I mapped the k-5 age population (based on Y2K) in the city, mapped the school locations, and drew a half mile circle. I did the same for the old school locations.

What most people didn't realize was that the population of kids in the city had shifted so much in the century since those decaying messes had been slapped up that as many or more kids of school age were within walking distance of the four "new" schools than were in walking range of the "old" schools.

While reality and facts alone were not enough to deter those who insisted that night was day, the one-hundred pound plaster chunks that fell and collapsed most of the desks in a second grade classroom (thankfully, on a weekend) ended the "why can't the state just give us the money to renovate the old schools" refrain for good.

Years later, and I can say that fewer, larger, better schools means my kids have a lot better education because they have vastly improved facilities. My son went to the city magnet school for kindergarten and first grade, and the teachers were the same, awesome people they now have at he new schools. With fewer larger schools, these guys are still awesome teachers, but now they have superpowers of instructional assistance. While we walk further than many are willing to walk, I'd much rather they be in these safe, fully equipped, fully accessible buildings than in that less distant but rotting dump without even a play yard or play structure that my older son was originally assigned to - the school that could have killed a room full of second graders if the timing were less auspicious. And if they must break or lacerate legs, as kids will do, I'm so glad there is an elevator and they don't have to stay home with a tutor because three flights of rickety stairs are off limits.

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Here we were talking about Boston and everything... specifically about the weird big school swap zones and about the West Roxbury prison middle/high school complex, which is within walk distance of approximately nobody.

And you're talking about mehfuh. Gotta admit I don't know much about mehfuh. So maybe new schools in mehfuh are nice. How far away could they possibly get, anyway? Meh. Fuh.

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It's about as far away from from anything
(including West Roxbury) as it can be, and
still be in the city.

The only way to get there is by bus, from just
about anyplace.

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I think there are roughly four houses within walking distance of the high school and the mosquito breeding grounds on whose banks it sits.

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It actually used to be the dump, eh, I mean
landfill.

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Say what you will, but the park and wildlife area it abuts is awesome. Good-sized bike and roller-blading paths surrounded by a nature preserve, and themselves surrounding soccer fields and play grounds.

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They did a real good job of converting it
to something useable and attractive. It's
hard to believe that it was actually a landfill.

Also, there used to be a drive-in movie theater
nearby, where the Home Depot is now.

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The sunsets from the top are great - if only the too-eager-to-get-home parks guy didn't drive around in his truck yelling at people exactly one minute after sunset.

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As we know, all problems in the neighborhood are the fault of busing. Local kids know how to comport themselves.

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End busing!

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It takes a lot of cash to open and staff and maintain and heat smaller buildings in every neighborhood. More administrators, more specialists, more custodial and maintenance staff cost big bucks.

It also costs money to ensure that facilities meet minimal safety, health, and educational resource standards and that there is equity of access to educational resources. As we have seen before, "neighborhood" schools meant "screw any non-white neighborhood" and that is how Boston got in big trouble in court.

Hey, if you are up for that, you are more than welcome to go for it.

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we had a perfectly good forum discussing bitches getting cut and it turns into a bussing discussion?

i attended boston public schools in the early 70's and i remember someone being stabbed and someone else getting thrown out a window.that was in kindergarten.right next door to the highschool.next thing you know, ive got nuns yelling at me.

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Cause and effect...

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