A number of bicycling groups are reacting to an e-mail exchange over the Southwest Corridor bike lane with by asking why major bike lanes aren't given the same clearing priority as roads.
MassBike takes the issue of snow removal on off-road pathways – and all bicycle facilities - very seriously because many people who ride bikes rely on them for their daily transportation 365 days a year. In many cases, pathways like the Southwest Corridor or the Charles River bike paths are the only safe route for people who ride bikes where parallel roadways are unsafe or uncomfortable for bicycling. Furthermore, all state agencies should be unequivocally committed to well-established state laws and policies, such as the Healthy Transportation Compact, that support increased bicycle use for everyday transportation.
This is why I have written DCR Commissioner Jack Murray to request a meeting to address the issues raised in these emails and ensuing public discussion. I appreciate the challenges that DCR and other agencies have faced this winter, and can understand the frustrations expressed by both DCR and bicyclists, but we have the opportunity to shift this discussion to a real dialogue.
Groups posted photos today of the "0.05%" - a reference to the way one official referred to what he said was the small number of bicyclists he says just refuse to accept the realities of winter in Boston.
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Some routes in Cambridge
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 5:53pm
Mass Ave was fully cleared to leave the bike lane open.
Provided people actually park all the way over in their spots ...
Pay Special Bike Taxes
By John Costello
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 5:53pm
I pay a gas tax every time I fill up (which is a lot) to maintain the roads in the state. I have no problem paying the bike tax myself, as long as the money goes towards bike path creation, restoration, and maintenance. Of course, reasoning with the bike mafia is like arguing about evolution with one of those preachers in Kentucky that uses snakes. This is a great snow day troll posting Adam. Have at it everyone!
You mean
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:14pm
Like property taxes and income taxes?
You know, the ones that pay for clearing the roadways for citizens to use?
I didn't know that having a bike meant that I don't pay those ... sheesh, what a chump I am. I need to go file an amended return and get my $$$ back.
Oh, as for gas tax, read here: http://taxfoundation.org/article/gasoline-taxes-an...
Massachusetts
Share of road spending covered by gas tax and tolls and user fees: 41.5%
The rest of that money (58.5%) comes from federal funds, state income tax, and local property taxes - also known as "taxes everybody pays".
This is Massachusetts. Rather
By Lmo
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:42pm
This is Massachusetts. Rather than look at more efficient / effective ways to manage the taxes we already pay, adding another tax is more than likely what our legislators would propose.
Great Argument, Pope Swirly, but you miss my point
By John Costello
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:45pm
I estimate that I paid $331 in state gas taxes last year to the state alone. 40,000 Miles / 29 MPG = 1,380 gallons of gas. 1,380 x $0.24 = $331 in road taxes, enough for 0.50 days of my own personal snow plow by my estimation. I would pay $0.05 extra per gallon if the money was clearly earmarked for bike paths like SW Corridor, M. Cass, the JWay and others. If everyone did it, it would add up.
What I am trying to say is that simple wishing for the DCR Commissioner to wave a magic wand and have the SW Corridor priority plowed is not going to happen.
Instead of wailing away on this board, contact your State Rep. and State Senator next time the budget comes up for discussion. Crash the State House and see that instead of having money earmarked for some coat holder's kid getting a job at the Probation Department or a Second Assistant Deputy Director of Diversity at Bridgewater State, see if that money could be moved into the MDC / DCR budget for specific bike path maintenance.
That's democracy. Wining and crying and expecting your cake without having to pay for it is mob rule.
Gosh, I never thought of that!
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:03pm
Gee whiz, I never would have thought of that in all this time! I'll just have to have a little chat with them when I see them ... like, once a week or so ...
Wow - first I find out that I pay taxes that I don't have to, now this talk to people that I already know well business! Amazing!
Swirly is just messing with us - right?
By jakester
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:24pm
These off the wall posts by Swirly are a joke, right? She's really just messing with everybody. No one could really be as out of it as she sounds...
Don't worry Swirly knows that nationally the GOP House
By bulgingbuick
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:15pm
will only tax the menstrual cycle which the Senate won't accept without a blood letting. On the other hand the state legislature may find taxing cycles attractive however they are too busy with irrelevance to focus on real issues.
yeah, properly plowing 4-5 miles of bike path is such a burden
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:54pm
You realize that we're talking about a 4-5 mile, 7-foot-wide strip of pavement, right?
Something tells me that we don't need to pass a special budget amendment for that.
Thank god
By davem
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:35pm
someone said this. We are talking about ONE truck with a plow running down a path after the storm with the sander on. ONE. TIME.
Unlike roads, it doesn't have to be kept clear during the storm, just opened up after. It the DCR seriously going to go bankrupt driving the 20 or so miles of the SWC and Charles River paths?
The DCR already *does* plow
By anon
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 2:09pm
The DCR already *does* plow the Southwest Corridor. In theory. So we don't need to increase the budget at all.
The complaint that started all of this said they did a sloppy job. That's the issue. No new taxes needed -- just get the existing plow employees to try a little harder.
Um...DCR manages a lot more
By anon
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 8:49am
Um...DCR manages a lot more than the SAC. There are almost 20 miles of paths around the Charles River.
Please, no more of this "raise the gas tax" nonsense!
By anon
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 9:44am
Enough is enough, already! The gas tax is a hopelessly outdated vehicle ill-suited for actually collecting a steady stream of funds through which we can maintain and expand our transportation infrastructure. It ought to be repealed and replaced.
By subtracting that $0.24 in state gas tax and another $0.184 from the current average cost of gas in MA (per here: http://www.massachusettsgasprices.com/Prices_Natio..., about $3.454 as of this morning), we find that the pre-tax price of fuel per gallon in MA is $3.03. At your figured 1380 gallons of gas and assuming (uh-oh, you know what they say about assuming) $3.03 works out 'close enough' to the 2013 yearly average, you paid $331.20 in state gas tax, $253.92 in federal gas tax, and $4181.40 in pre-tax price of fuel. If, however, you had paid MA sales tax on that $3.03 instead of state fuel tax - you would have been charged just $261.3375 in state tax, representing a 'savings' by you of just under $70.
Wow! Would you look at that? It's a tax cut! Republicans are all about cutting taxes. Now, I know what you're thinking, but hang on. This gets better. Right now, the MA gas tax is rather nonsensically "indexed to inflation" and our friends in the GOP are hard at work trying to get that overturned one way or another. But even if they don't manage to overturn it, "indexing to inflation" does nothing to account for how erratic the price of gas is to begin with (and it also doesn't account for the difference in fuel cost from octane to octane) - the cost of gas could very well spike faster than "inflation."
Suppose that a month from now, the pre-tax cost of gas has jumped to $3.20. While we hand-wring and pearl-clutch about "indexing to inflatation," the fuel tax per gallon will have remained static (awaiting its annual increase) and the percentage of the cost of fuel that is "taxes" will have actually decreased. If, however, gas was subject to state sales tax instead, that $0.17/gal rise in fuel prices would have automatically caused the amount paid in taxes to also go up by $0.01/gal - automatically. No "indexing" required, no hand-wringing, no avenues for legitimate grievance. Sure, it's still a "tax cut," but that lost revenue can and will easily be made up for over time through other mechanisms (commercial VMT, which only impacts the heaviest and most damaging road users and nicely side-steps the legitimate privacy concerns inherent in private VMT schemes).
"But what about the federal fuel tax?" you're about to ask. Great question! There's no federal sales tax, but that doesn't mean we can't restructure the federal fuel tax to also behave like the sales tax - as a percentage of cost instead of a fixed cents-per-gallon. Right now, that $0.184 federal gas tax is a little bit over 6%, and there's talk of wanting to double the cost in cents per gallon. If, instead, we replaced "cents per gallon" with a straight 10% federal tax ($0.303 cents at today's prices) - the overall amount of taxes paid remains static, if more heavily weighted towards the federal side of the equation, and instead of this "inflation indexing" nonsense, rising and falling gas taxes see the tax revenue adjust automatically.
It's straightforward, it's fair, it guarantees we don't have to go through this circus nonsense every decade or so, and it's a "tax cut" that long-term results in more funding - which, in my opinion, is the best kind of "tax cut."
I see what you did there
By Zunk
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:35pm
First, I'm reading the first 95% of your reply and I was thinking, "nice bait and switch there, John." First you suggests that cyclists aren't paying their way, which is B.S., and suggest Swirly missed your point. Then goes on some long-winded explanation like she wasn't actually defending against what your original assertion was but then you finish with
So she didn't miss your point after all.
Mass car owners paying gas
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:59pm
Mass car owners paying gas taxes, auto excise taxes and auto sales taxes as well as car inspection fees, license fees and registration fees are also paying property and income taxes; and have no problem with some of their property/income taxes being used for roads.
So what is your point... that only citizens actually using a particular public service should expect to pay for that service? Do riders of the MBTA pay 100% of its costs... do you think only school families should pay for the schools.
Please reread the statistics
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:23pm
Yes drivers pay money.
No, that money does not cover the costs.
We are talking about how tax money is spent - nearly 60% spent on roads comes from general funds to which all people have contributed.
All cyclists are asking is that some of that resource - which they pay into as well - be spent for cycling needs.
If you can't get past a I PAY SPECIAL CAR TAXES mentality, or a CARS VERSUS BIKES mindset and see that roadway plowing funds come from everybody's taxes, I can't explain it any more simply.
Swirls ,I like you , really ,
By kvn
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 9:31am
Swirls ,I like you , really , not trying to wind you up, BUT , now that bikes have gone from playground and paper route transportation, to the big world , competing with the autocar, how is the notion that user fees apply to the bicycle as they do to the autocar foreign and deflected onto other arguments. You drive the autocar , you pay insurance for liability , inspection and registration fees , drivers license fee , gasoline taxes and other taxes. If you are not riding your bike after school delivering newspapers , you need to pay. Stay away with that ubolt lock of yours now !
60%
By anon
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:26am
Do you know what that means?
If drivers paid all of it, you would have a point.
special shoe tax?
By andonandon
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:41am
do I need special liability insurance if I want to walk across a street? the reason you need liability insurance and inspection and registration fees is because cars are dangerous weapons (car collisions are the leading cause of death for people under the age of 40) that pollute the environment and wear down our roads. They place an enormous burden on our infrastructure (and our environment, and our health and safety) and thus you should have to pay more, and should be more liable and responsible if you want use them.
bicycles, on the other hand, have a very minimal impact on infrastructure, pedestrians or other cyclists killed by cyclists is extremely rare - 1 death every few years - and they don't pollute, unless physical activity gives you flatulence. While I do think there needs to be more cyclist education and passing basic bike safety should be required of all middle schoolers and high schoolers - if you actually went and did the calculations for how much impact bikes have on our infrastructure (balanced against the economic and health benefits they provide) - and subtract that from what we already pay in other taxes, that "bike tax" would be negligible, and cyclists likely already pay more than their fair share.
http://grist.org/article/2010-09-27-why-an-additio...
We mean excise taxes-- separate from local taxes
By kitty
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 2:05pm
Everyone with cars pay annual excise taxes on top of the taxes you are already paying. Bicyclists don't pay these taxes..but they should contribute, as you suggested to a fund to maintain bike paths.
yeah, how about people getting angry at ignorance
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:30pm
" Of course, reasoning with the bike mafia is like arguing about evolution with one of those preachers in Kentucky that uses snakes."
Yeah, and those minorities just get so bent out of shape any time you start talking about racism, welfare, laziness, entitlement, etc. Why on earth do they get so angry when you point out The Truth, huh?
If you're so worried about minorities
By Sally
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:00am
Maybe you should direct your energy towards safer bike routes in Mattapan, Dorchester or Hyde Park, all of which lag way, way behind JP in terms of transportation options and certainly ANY kind of bike infrastructure, let alone ice-free paths 365 days a year. How are those poor saps getting to work on time these days?
2 tons vs 200lbs
By davem
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:22pm
Cars, and especially trucks do exponentially more damage to roads than bikes do, which is negligible. THIS is why the gas and excise taxes exist, to offset damage. This is also why trucks pay more than cars, who pay more than bicycles. The only wear and tear a bike path takes is from the sun and frost heaves (the latter wouldn't even be an issue if we built our roads correctly, but that's a whole other discussion).
Why do you think roads get repaved every few years, but some sidewalks have been around longer than your grandmother? It's not magic!
Auto Excise
By AntiBike
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:03pm
Actually, the excise tax just goes to the general fund and is not earmarked for roads.
Oh, of course!
By davem
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:53am
So that magically changes the fact that cars destroy the roads they need to drive on, right?
Or, that we needed to invent, install and maintain expensive devices like, traffic lights, turn lanes, sinage, etc? (And yes, I know bikes [I]have[/I] these things. But its to seperate them from the cars, which [I]need[/I] them.)
I'm not saying cars don't have a place in out world, they do, they're great. But for anyone to seriously think they don't cost a million times more money than biking (or walking, scootering, wind surfing…) is insane. The costs drivers pay in licence, taxes, etc. are just the tip of the iceberg compared to the amount of infastructure they require.
Sidewalks lasting longer
By Markk02474
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 2:03am
has much to do with them being concrete, as many roads used to be. Concrete is safer too, much better grip when wet. People bitch about the road noise however.
Cars and trucks do what bicycles can't - help melt the snow by driving over it.
The salt melts the snow Mark.
By davem
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:40am
The salt melts the snow Mark.
Or have you never driven in a storm where they get caught with their pants down and don't salt? Or Maine, where they just pack it down and sand? If anything, cars driving on snow makes it worse, as it turns into a sheet of ice from getting packed down.
The only time your theory holds water is if a light dusting is coming down and/or its 30something degrees.
Nice try, MarKKK
By Zunk
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:45pm
Cars don't melt it very much. There just isn't enough contact time, except maybe at big intersections. If the cars melted well, they wouldn't worry about spreading sand and salt around - they would just drive a big truck around all the time.
It's a combination of both
By merlinmurph
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 1:06pm
If you just lay salt down and leave it alone, nothing much happens. A teeny little spot around the crystal may melt a bit, and that's it.
Add cars to the equation, and things happen a lot faster. The salt gets mixed with the other snow and melts faster, and with the constant mixing plus some solar power, you end up with a fairly clean street.
Take a look at a street that gets little traffic. The snow will hang around for days/weeks while busier streets are clean.
Movement
By Zunk
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 3:32pm
Yes, I'm familiar. The contact pressure of the tires will melt it to a small degree (similar to the way ice skates work, by melting) but the contact time is too small to do much. Most of what you see is due to tires moving it around, not melting it.
Never have seen
By bulgingbuick
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:59pm
a fatso on a bike.
I pay special taxes
By Matt W
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:39am
I pay gas taxes even though I don't drive. I pay taxes that pay for schools even though I don't have kids. This is how society works, dude.
Could this break 300 comments
By Lmo
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 5:57pm
Could this break 300 comments? ready...... GO!
Where's that GIF of a guy eating popcorn?
By BostonDog
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:02pm
I'd have a easier time convincing Ron Paul to fund universal healthcare then I would getting the pro/anti bike people to come to terms.
It's too bad this story doesn't mention people with dogs so the anti/pro leash law people could get into action and we could have a grand UHub flame war to end all UHub flame wars.
go for the trifecta!
By cleokid
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:09pm
quick, someone talk about how this relates to space savers. THEN the site will explode.
entitlement
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:28pm
Funny how nobody talks about "entitlement" when drivers plunk down cones to save bits of public property, slash tires, etc...but when a cyclist asks "hey, would you do something about this road-for-bikes being a skating rink and badly plowed?" it's ENTITLEMENT CITY.
BAN CARS!
By BostonDog
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:55pm
I just moved to Southie with my pet poodle. I'm from LA, where everyone is friendly and kind, unlike the stupid locals with their stupid accents. But whatever, I work at a tech startup and make loads of cash so what do I care. Anyway, my car is still registered in CA as I pay way less in insurance. I wouldn't even need a car but I HAVE to go to Newton every other Monday night to visit my aging aunt and there is no way in hell I'm taking a bus. But this morning when I got back from Whole Foods someone parked in MY SPACE. (Before you ask, yes, it's my space. It's in front of my apartment and I push the snow off my car when it's parked there so by law I own that spot till spring.) So I double-parked the car in the bike lane while I went inside to get a bike U-Lock to smash their mirrors off. I had to park around the block but at least I taught them a lesson. I bet they just were from the suburbs anyway.
Anyway, since I already had my U-Lock out I decided to ride my bike to starbucks and then my office in the Innovation District. That was a mistake as all the paths and bike lanes still had snow. Can't this stupid city even keep the bike lanes clear of snow! Hey Walsh, I HAVE RIGHTS!
So then I come home this evening and the Piddles the poodle is going nuts. I guess I forgot to take him out this morning. I also "forgot" my poopie bags too but I have this neat trick -- As soon as he's getting ready to do his thing I suddenly realize I have a very important text so send so I turn the other way and take out my iPhone 5S. Piddles is an awesome dog. He likes to run and he's super friendly and never bites so I don't mind just letting him run around.
The only way I can get through the snow is to think about this summer when I'm getting a Segway so I don't need to try and find parking in the North End when I go out to dinner. I still miss LA but you can't get traditional Italian food like that on the left coast. YANKEES SUCK!
Want to buy a beach?
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:51pm
Just like in LA? Where people own the beach? There's this nice one in your neighborhood I can get you a good deal on if you just send me some money up front ...
Perfect characterization
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:11pm
You nailed the entitled attitude of some (not all) transplants that are turning so many formerly friendly family neighborhoods, that the East Coast used to be full of, into rootless cardboard cutouts.
Good characterization
By sestono
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:16pm
You nailed the entitled attitude of some (not all) transplants that are turning so many friendly lost standing neighborhoods, that the East Coast used to be full of, into rootless cardboard cutouts.
You mean this?
By Sally
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 1:13am
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/aVZgT.gif[/IMG]
That said, I think I'm done with this topic for tonight at least. Thanks, all you bike "advocates" for making this crazy bike lady feel as if we've lost. our. collective. f'ing. minds. Instead I'm going to go try to chip away at the three inches of ice on my sidewalk.
Thanks for continuing to be a concern troll
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:15pm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=con...
Thank you for continuing to be a useless anonymous troll.
By Sally
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:18pm
Really. You should be proud.
not concern trolling
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 02/21/2014 - 7:04pm
Sally is too invested here to fit the mold. An actual concern troll intends to sabotage the discussion. There are a lot of people "poking the bear" to amuse themselves (also not Sally). I do think the "tone argument" criticism is a little valid, but actually this is not a war. It is more than obviously hypocritical for "anon' to keep saying concern troll.
Your side walk Sally??
By jakester
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:30pm
Wait, what!!?? Your side walk????. I'd go into a Sally style tirade about it being a 'public sidewalk' and 'you don't own it' rant, but hey, it's late, I'm tired and she's too silly to spend time bitching about.
I'm sorry--is there another term creepers like you use
By Sally
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:22am
...to describe the sidewalk that runs in front of your property, you know--the one you're responsible for shoveling?
heated bike paths!
By Crankycoffey
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:09pm
Let's do it!
Beat you yanks to it
By Dutch
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:16pm
Catch up with the 20th century why doncha?
Plow blades on the front of
By Lmo
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:19pm
Plow blades on the front of bikes?
plow blades on the front of cars?
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:25pm
Guess if we're not going to properly plow the bike paths, we're not going to properly plow the roads either.
If you expect to drive your non-4x4 vehicle year round you're living in the wrong city, pal.
A great deal of private plows
By Lmo
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:42pm
A great deal of private plows clear public streets, when the responsible parties don't. Sometimes you have to improvise.
The plow blades on bikes was a joke, btw
Well, I can't wait for all the non-cyclists
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:23pm
....to explain to us how we're wrong, how we're expecting "perfection" (the person who emailed DCR **NEVER ASKED FOR PERFECTION**. He asked that the SWC not be a giant effing skating rink that's so slippery not even studded snow tires will work, and that DCR adjust the plow properly so it plows down to the pavement, not leaving an inch or two of snow that then gets packed down and turned into ice.)
You know, sort of like white people telling black people about racism, guys telling women about sexism, etc.
Then, of course, will be the concern trolls like Sally who think that spreading sand on ice makes it more slippery and that the DCR does a swell job of snow removal. And that the SWC is only used by people who live right next to it. And that everyone is confident enough to ride on roads severely narrowed because the city won't plow to the curb...because when the roads narrow, and you're riding outside the door zone, you get buzzed and honked at by irate drivers.
Then there will be the comments about "entitlement." Because cyclists are "entitled" when we simply want our infrastructure maintained to the same standard as infrastructure for others, and the right to get where we're going safely and without harassment, threats, violence, injures, etc.
You're really into this "concern troll" thing, eh?
By Sally
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:37pm
Honestly? Whatever. Go throw some sand on top of the ice and ride your bike over it and see what happens. This endless, blowhard blame-game boo-hooing is the worst kind of "advocacy" I've ever seen.
This here isn't advocacy, it
By Car-byed
Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:57am
This here isn't advocacy, it's complaining.
But MassBike talking to the DCR is advocating for better service to their constituency.
Finding out what can the DCR do better, and what can cyclists reasonably expect from them.
"... effing skating rink that
By Car-byed
Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:49am
"... effing skating rink that's so slippery not even studded snow tires will work"
Studded snow tires totally work, but why not take a cleared roadway instead?
You know go, a half-mile or a mile out of the way, take an extra 5-10 minutes or so, but not have to worry so much about a fall?
I agree that plowing is often performed very poorly either by incompetents or the careless and should be addressed.
Quality control of DCR maintenance staff performance could really be improved.
But hey, they have other jobs to get to, what's a few complaints from a tiny constituency?
Drivers get harrassed and threatened, etc., too. This is called driving in Boston.
iRobot
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:27pm
Are you listening? Robot plow device?
They could use an army of
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:47pm
They could use an army of robots to clean each MBTA vehicle and station 24/7
Keep whining
By anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:33pm
And while you're at it, tell me why the city should waste countless millions to cater to the needs of the select few? Roads are plowed because they're used by hundreds of thousands of commuters (both car and public transit) on a daily basis, whereas there might be at most 100 morons with a major death wish who insist on biking on city streets after a major snowstorm in the entire city of Boston. Stop whining and take public transportation like everybody else, you're not special.
read the article
By cinnamngrl
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:47pm
The whole point is that there is more bicyclists that you are willing to admit. We pay taxes and commute to work. I live in boston and I can tell you that driving a car is the stupidest and most expensive way to get to work. I don't ride my bike much in the winter because it isn't safe, but I wish things were different.
The people that designed the Southwest corridor bike path meant it to be open year round. The people that maintain the park forgot this or somehow never knew it. whether DCR has the staff or support to clear these paths is a separate question. But there is no excuse for refusing to work on it. the original emails should not be allowed to treat any citizen this way.
"I live in boston and I can
By Lmo
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:47pm
"I live in boston and I can tell you that driving a car is the stupidest and most expensive way to get to work"
May be true for you, not for everyone. I live and work in Boston, for the job I have and where I live, I rely on a car for work.
Then you should move
By JJJJ
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:26pm
Then you should move
Should I? Plenty of parking
By Lmo
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:33pm
Should I? Plenty of parking in my neighborhood. My job requires driving. So, if I live in the city, I shouldn't have a car? Ridiculous.
Thrilling
By kitty
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 2:08pm
My 80 year old neighbor will be thrilled at your comment-- and yes, she still works!
Really?
By Anon
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:15pm
Stupidest and most expensive? Maybe for a trust funder Starbucks jockey whose daddy paid for their Leather District loft but forgot to buy a parking space.
You "don't ride your bike much in the winter..."
By Sally
Wed, 02/19/2014 - 9:16am
"Because it isn't safe?" On the SWC path or because of the state of everything--narrowed salty roads,ice, driving sleet, snow, etc.? Because the impression I'm getting from the ardent ".05%" is that if the DCR were doing their job you'd be out every day biking with impunity. The fact is the SWC IS used--happily, comfortably--year-round by a huge number of people including cyclists, but the notion that any amount of path maintenance (or hey--magic ice-melting sand!) will enable everyone in Boston to bike safely and sanely here 365 days a year or that if they can't, they will give up biking altogether is just plain misguided.
"driving a car is the
By Refugee
Fri, 02/21/2014 - 9:31am
"driving a car is the stupidest and most expensive way to get to work"
And riding a bicycle, a single 15mph collision can result in you having a frakked up back for the rest of your life. The healthcare cost and lost productivity from that one accident can easily run in the 100's of thousands of dollars. How does that figure into your math?
Twentysomething bicycle fanatics are often in major denial about the risks of cycling.
What does that say for fiftysomething bicycle fanatics?
By merlinmurph
Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:01am
Just wondering....
The denial is just sitting there
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 02/21/2014 - 6:35pm
heart disease and stroke are the top two causes of death on earth. This actually costs all of us alot of tax money. I respect that people have a right to not to exercise but that's the real denial. I am not 20. I ride my bike because I work many hours and I don't have time to go to the gym. It takes a half hour to work whether i sit on the bus or ride. So I choose to ride my bike because I am not in denial about my health.
"insist on biking city
By tape
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:33pm
"insist on biking city streets"
you do realize that a significant number of people use bicycles as their primary/only method of transportation, right?
of course you don't. if you realized anything at all, you wouldn't be anon.
Primary/ only method of
By Lmo
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:48pm
Primary/ only method of transportation. Yes, even when it is extremely unsafe to do so.
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