For clarification, where you wrote "put up by Jerry Rappaport", you mean "built" -- not "put up for sale." The current owners bought the building from Rappaport in 1997.
by no way does a cat as a pet mean you're a single woman and visa versa. That bldg is all Eurotrash from what I saw in my days living in Cleveland Circle.
prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?
:)
By eeka not logged in on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 9:56pm.
The building is also accessible, so there are quite a lot of people with disabilities in the building (both young professional type folks with mainly physical disabilities as well as folks with multiple disabilities who have 24/7 staff). The front desk staff there are quite savvy in terms of monitoring who's coming and going without intruding on the privacy of folks who have staff coming to work with them.
Not to be a sweeping generalist...oh wait, yah, to TOTALLY be a sweeping generalist, BC kids are shitsticks that ruin the neighborhood. And no, I am not some old person complaining about the kids. I am in my 20's, love Brighton, and love the majority of good young people in the area. However, everywhere in Brighton I have lived, the biggest jack-ass trouble makers are always BC kids. Overprivileged, arrogant, ignorant, stooges.
Thank god I am moving out of the area, the BC kids have driven me out, as they have some other neighbors of mine.
bc kids are the worst.i spent a lot of time there and they are the most spoiled, arrogant students in the city.so much bad stuff goes on up there and you never hear about it because they have a huge rug they sweep everything under.several years ago some hot shot from wall street's son raped a girl on campus.daddy wrote a check and they named a dorm after him.the girl that was raped was villified and could not follow her career dream because she was deemed mentally unstable. they suck.i moved out because of all the students from all the colleges but bc kids are the worst, hands down.
if that's your argument then what about politicians, celebs, etc? and i certainly dont think bc sweeps everything under the rug. look at the recent stuff with brady smith.
for the record, who is the person you are talking about that wrote a big check and got everything taken care of? not too many dorms on that campus that are named after donors, so i'm curious who it was.
the brady smith stuff got out before the bc machine got it squashed.once the news hits the street the school usually gives the bad boy the boot.its the stuff you never hear about that would blow your mind.as for the dorm...
Interesting take Andrew. I moved to Brighton somewhat recently, this summer will start my 5th year there. Part of the reason I moved there is to be close to BC. I thought it would be great to live in a community near a college where the college has a good influence on said community.
Being a bit older and having a job with a decent commute, I was worried about living in a college town when I would have early mornings and early nights, but the few students who live near me have been fine.
All that being said, I will be moving out of Brighton this fall. The reason? The residents of Brighton. I am constantly turned off by the outrageous words and actions of the activists that seem to speak for all of the town. I also made the mistake of sticking up for BC recently and was told "true residents" of Brighton don't feel that way. So I've never felt welcomed by the residents, and really wouldn't want to be consider one seeing and hearing the way they act.
If you live near them, you might hear them and be annoyed. I'd have a little sympathy if you were there before the university grew to its current size and status. But of course you weren't.
thats the year my greatgrandfather built the house i grew up in. i dont think he knew about the colleges expansion plans.i dont think he planned on having some douche from northeastern getting a blow job on my back porch either.
about three years ago, my then 89 year old grandmother, called me to come down from my third floor apartment because she thought someone was outside her window.that someone was some kid from northeastern hooking up with his girlfriend on the back porch of my house.his bare ass was pressed against my grandmothers ground level bedroom window. so if you are implying that i am as bad as the idiot on my porch you are not seeing the bigger picture.
Seriously ... they complained about college students "devaluing condo property".
Problem is, the condos were new in the 70s and 80s. Many of the college residences for MIT dated back to the 19th century, and most were pre-1930. So much for that!
I know kids party. I party. I have zero problem with it. Want to drink your face off until 2am on a Saturday night, partying with friends in your apartment? Have a blast. Make some noise.
I am talking about tiny off-campus apartments, overflowing with loud and destructive kids at all hours of the night during the week. Kids that take it way too far, and let's not pretend they don't exist.
The building across from me routinely packs in 50+ kids into a small two bedroom in my residential spot in Brighton, quite often having extremely loud and obnoxious parties until 4am and 5am on weeknights. More than twice (twice for sure, once was just a couple of kids), these parties have spilled out onto the street, complete with bottle breaking, fist flying, bat swinging violence. No exaggeration, I am talking all-out street fight violence with 15+ people at 4am on a Tuesday night. Throwing bottles at eachother, jumping on cars, police showing up, etc etc.
I am sure there are BU kids, Northeastern kids, kids from many other colleges that act like asses as well, but it seems 9 times out of ten, it is kids from BC.
The commentary on this story devolved even quicker than I thought it would. I'm starting to think I side with the poster above who said that Brighton residents are the reason he is leaving the area. I've been here 6 years and I'm thinking the same thing. Its very discouraging listening to the constant complaints. I think a potential BC purchase of 2000 Comm, Ave is great news but, once again, Brighton residents make into a negative rant-fest.
i just said they were the worst because they are. i lived in a house centally located between bc, bu and harvard.the houses in my neighborhood were mostly rented ny northeastern students.it was a situation of small houses,, close to each, other filled with out of control drunken students.it wasnt everybody.some houses had parties and things were under control.on the other hand there was always at least one house filled with kids that obviously had never been away from home before.20 yr old drunken idiots riding shopping carts down the hill in front of their house.fights, screaming, crying girls,damaged cars.should i continue? and by the way i dont care if you dont like brighton natives.im sure i wouldnt like anybody from your hometown either.so i wont go live there.
I am in an area with lots of students from lots of places (BU, BC, Harvard, etc) and over the past 2 or 3 years, have seen a lot of good and bad stuff go down in and around Brighton. At this point, I feel pretty comfortable saying that a majority of the bad stuff I have had to deal with, has come from BC students.
I sincerely believe that BC (as every school does in it's own way) draws a particular type of student/person, and those types of people have a higher tendency to be disrespectful of their neighbors. These are usually kids that come from upper class families, many of which are living in off-campus apartments on mommy and daddys dime, and have no care for or understanding of the value of anything. As such, they act like assholes, and see no consequences.
This isn't about dorms, or buildings, or NIMBY, etc. It is about BC (or any college) and the students of BC (or any college again) bearing some responsibility for the negative effects that come with their existence in a residential area.
Just as Brighton residents need to be mindful and understanding of the student population, the students and schools have to be mindful of the residents. It just seems that it doesn't go both ways.
It isn't *surprising* that a transient student population doesn't care as much as an embedded resident population about the neighborhood, but that doesn't make it right. I think Brighton residents would be a lot more welcoming of BC's plans for expansion, if we hadn't been so beaten down by the student's behavior in the community to date, and by the colleges seeming lack of sensitivity to the matter.
I read back in August of last year, that Boston police and BC were going to "crack down" on off-campus asshole behavior by BC students, and that off-campus ass-hattery was going to carry on campus punishment. What happened to that? Seems like all bark and no bite.
Hahahahaha, you can't stop manifest destiny in its finest.
Seriously, BC improves the dump that is Brighton. Imagine what the property values of these places would be without the university? Not to imagine the money the place pours into the various elementary schools around the area (and free labor too, with the education majors).
ha, you couldn't pay me to live in that shithole of a neighborhood. i can't imagine why saps choose to make it their permanent home. but without the school, landowners wouldn't be able to charge redic rents for slum-like apartments.
Another BC Alum shows his command of the language. The Jesuits must be proud of you! Your ability to parse the information and come to well-informed opinions is astounding. Please share more of your enlightened knowledge! We await your next post!
By masshole in action on Sun, 05/25/2008 - 5:39am.
Personally, I've lived the past 9 months in Brighton as a BC student and I'm not impressed with the behavior of the permanent residents. As much as you complain about how horrible, evil, and morally degenerate we are, any attempt I have made to simply say good morning is meet with either indifference or contempt. The most common theme that you all complain about is the fact that you believe BC students to be rich and out of control and in every complaint this comes up. I'm not surprised as we are responsible for the higher rents you would have to pay without us but your petty class war arguments show that you really have nothing to say. Do BC kids act like asses sometimes? Sure, I had one that tried that this winter on me and broke my window which is more than you lot can say. I didn't cry or bitch, I solved it quickly with him and moved on. The fact is most of your stories are most likely fake. If you lived between Harvard, BU, and BC you would be in allston which no BC students live. The vast majority of BC students live within a 5 minute walk of one of our bus stops. The problem is that you all blame BC students for the high rents for the area around Brighton and whenever you see behavior that can validate your opinion you latch on to it and embellish on it. No we don't have parties on tuesdays (at least during the school year can't vouch for vacations) and most of our parties are done by 2am as people want to catch the buses back. If you have a problem try fighting with the slum-lords that allows your neighborhoods to rot and charge high rents for it.
As much as you complain about how horrible, evil, and morally degenerate we are, any attempt I have made to simply say good morning is meet with either indifference or contempt.
Sadly, this is often simply part of living in Boston.
The fact is most of your stories are most likely fake.
You're asking us to prove a negative.
If you lived between Harvard, BU, and BC you would be in allston which no BC students live.
Ahahahahahaha.
The problem is that you all blame BC students for the high rents for the area around Brighton and whenever you see behavior that can validate your opinion you latch on to it and embellish on it.
Since many, many people have experienced similar circumstances, the burden of proof is on you to prove such "embellishment".
No we don't have parties on tuesdays (at least during the school year can't vouch for vacations)
I guess I was repeatedly hallucinating when I lived there then.
... and most of our parties are done by 2am as people want to catch the buses back.
If anything, this one line shows how utterly, completely out of touch with adulthood and civic responsibility you are. People want to have a chance to sleep before 2am. People have the right to sleep before 2am, and if you can't get your party over by the proscribed quiet hours in the city, you can expect to be hated, and you can expect the police at your door.
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cat-friendly? Do a lot of
cat-friendly? Do a lot of single women live there?
I'd bet
More single women live there than mice do.
Good point. Every apartment
Good point. Every apartment building needs a few cat ladies.
"built", not "put up for sale"
For clarification, where you wrote "put up by Jerry Rappaport", you mean "built" -- not "put up for sale." The current owners bought the building from Rappaport in 1997.
Right
I meant "put up" as in "built" or "erected," not as in "put up for sale."
An alternative?
An alternative to Brighton Dorms perhaps?
Building collapsed during construction
This building collapsed while it was under construction in 1971, killing four construction workers.
is 2000 commmonwealth the
is 2000 commmonwealth the archstone bldg or the reservoir towers on the corner of comm and chestnut hill ave?
Archstone.
Archstone.
Oh cool, something else for
Oh cool, something else for Michael Pahre to complain about.
*meow*
by no way does a cat as a pet mean you're a single woman and visa versa. That bldg is all Eurotrash from what I saw in my days living in Cleveland Circle.
prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?
:)
Not entirely...
The building is also accessible, so there are quite a lot of people with disabilities in the building (both young professional type folks with mainly physical disabilities as well as folks with multiple disabilities who have 24/7 staff). The front desk staff there are quite savvy in terms of monitoring who's coming and going without intruding on the privacy of folks who have staff coming to work with them.
BC Jackasses Ruin The Neighborhood
Not to be a sweeping generalist...oh wait, yah, to TOTALLY be a sweeping generalist, BC kids are shitsticks that ruin the neighborhood. And no, I am not some old person complaining about the kids. I am in my 20's, love Brighton, and love the majority of good young people in the area. However, everywhere in Brighton I have lived, the biggest jack-ass trouble makers are always BC kids. Overprivileged, arrogant, ignorant, stooges.
Thank god I am moving out of the area, the BC kids have driven me out, as they have some other neighbors of mine.
andrew is right on the money
bc kids are the worst.i spent a lot of time there and they are the most spoiled, arrogant students in the city.so much bad stuff goes on up there and you never hear about it because they have a huge rug they sweep everything under.several years ago some hot shot from wall street's son raped a girl on campus.daddy wrote a check and they named a dorm after him.the girl that was raped was villified and could not follow her career dream because she was deemed mentally unstable. they suck.i moved out because of all the students from all the colleges but bc kids are the worst, hands down.
if that's your argument then
if that's your argument then what about politicians, celebs, etc? and i certainly dont think bc sweeps everything under the rug. look at the recent stuff with brady smith.
for the record, who is the person you are talking about that wrote a big check and got everything taken care of? not too many dorms on that campus that are named after donors, so i'm curious who it was.
an answer to your question
the brady smith stuff got out before the bc machine got it squashed.once the news hits the street the school usually gives the bad boy the boot.its the stuff you never hear about that would blow your mind.as for the dorm...
media.www.bcheights.com...Discloses.Allegations-1827.shtml
Interesting take Andrew. I
Interesting take Andrew. I moved to Brighton somewhat recently, this summer will start my 5th year there. Part of the reason I moved there is to be close to BC. I thought it would be great to live in a community near a college where the college has a good influence on said community.
Being a bit older and having a job with a decent commute, I was worried about living in a college town when I would have early mornings and early nights, but the few students who live near me have been fine.
All that being said, I will be moving out of Brighton this fall. The reason? The residents of Brighton. I am constantly turned off by the outrageous words and actions of the activists that seem to speak for all of the town. I also made the mistake of sticking up for BC recently and was told "true residents" of Brighton don't feel that way. So I've never felt welcomed by the residents, and really wouldn't want to be consider one seeing and hearing the way they act.
Breaking news at 11: College
Breaking news at 11: College kids party.
If you live near them, you might hear them and be annoyed. I'd have a little sympathy if you were there before the university grew to its current size and status. But of course you weren't.
Your rant is boring
Rob, go away. No one wants your sympathy. You offer nothing.
1913?
thats the year my greatgrandfather built the house i grew up in. i dont think he knew about the colleges expansion plans.i dont think he planned on having some douche from northeastern getting a blow job on my back porch either.
That's a pretty eloquent
That's a pretty eloquent rebuttal. Pot meet kettle.
pot, kettle, whatever
about three years ago, my then 89 year old grandmother, called me to come down from my third floor apartment because she thought someone was outside her window.that someone was some kid from northeastern hooking up with his girlfriend on the back porch of my house.his bare ass was pressed against my grandmothers ground level bedroom window. so if you are implying that i am as bad as the idiot on my porch you are not seeing the bigger picture.
We used to use that reasoning on the Back Bay Yuppies
Seriously ... they complained about college students "devaluing condo property".
Problem is, the condos were new in the 70s and 80s. Many of the college residences for MIT dated back to the 19th century, and most were pre-1930. So much for that!
There is a difference..
I know kids party. I party. I have zero problem with it. Want to drink your face off until 2am on a Saturday night, partying with friends in your apartment? Have a blast. Make some noise.
I am talking about tiny off-campus apartments, overflowing with loud and destructive kids at all hours of the night during the week. Kids that take it way too far, and let's not pretend they don't exist.
The building across from me routinely packs in 50+ kids into a small two bedroom in my residential spot in Brighton, quite often having extremely loud and obnoxious parties until 4am and 5am on weeknights. More than twice (twice for sure, once was just a couple of kids), these parties have spilled out onto the street, complete with bottle breaking, fist flying, bat swinging violence. No exaggeration, I am talking all-out street fight violence with 15+ people at 4am on a Tuesday night. Throwing bottles at eachother, jumping on cars, police showing up, etc etc.
I am sure there are BU kids, Northeastern kids, kids from many other colleges that act like asses as well, but it seems 9 times out of ten, it is kids from BC.
The reputation is well earned.
so you are complaining about
so you are complaining about off campus student living? BC is trying to build more dorms and the community opposes. Fuck brighton NIMBY's.
Sincerely,
Resident of Cleveland circle with no affiliation with BC.
so if you live near another
so if you live near another school then i bet it would be about those students.
also, there are plenty of places to live in brighton that arent near bc.
Wow
The commentary on this story devolved even quicker than I thought it would. I'm starting to think I side with the poster above who said that Brighton residents are the reason he is leaving the area. I've been here 6 years and I'm thinking the same thing. Its very discouraging listening to the constant complaints. I think a potential BC purchase of 2000 Comm, Ave is great news but, once again, Brighton residents make into a negative rant-fest.
I love how Brighton
I love how Brighton residents hate on BC students, yet won't let them build more dorms to keep them on campus.
The logic, it does nothing.
not just bc
i just said they were the worst because they are. i lived in a house centally located between bc, bu and harvard.the houses in my neighborhood were mostly rented ny northeastern students.it was a situation of small houses,, close to each, other filled with out of control drunken students.it wasnt everybody.some houses had parties and things were under control.on the other hand there was always at least one house filled with kids that obviously had never been away from home before.20 yr old drunken idiots riding shopping carts down the hill in front of their house.fights, screaming, crying girls,damaged cars.should i continue? and by the way i dont care if you dont like brighton natives.im sure i wouldnt like anybody from your hometown either.so i wont go live there.
I think it IS mostly BC students...
I am in an area with lots of students from lots of places (BU, BC, Harvard, etc) and over the past 2 or 3 years, have seen a lot of good and bad stuff go down in and around Brighton. At this point, I feel pretty comfortable saying that a majority of the bad stuff I have had to deal with, has come from BC students.
I sincerely believe that BC (as every school does in it's own way) draws a particular type of student/person, and those types of people have a higher tendency to be disrespectful of their neighbors. These are usually kids that come from upper class families, many of which are living in off-campus apartments on mommy and daddys dime, and have no care for or understanding of the value of anything. As such, they act like assholes, and see no consequences.
This isn't about dorms, or buildings, or NIMBY, etc. It is about BC (or any college) and the students of BC (or any college again) bearing some responsibility for the negative effects that come with their existence in a residential area.
Just as Brighton residents need to be mindful and understanding of the student population, the students and schools have to be mindful of the residents. It just seems that it doesn't go both ways.
It isn't *surprising* that a transient student population doesn't care as much as an embedded resident population about the neighborhood, but that doesn't make it right. I think Brighton residents would be a lot more welcoming of BC's plans for expansion, if we hadn't been so beaten down by the student's behavior in the community to date, and by the colleges seeming lack of sensitivity to the matter.
I read back in August of last year, that Boston police and BC were going to "crack down" on off-campus asshole behavior by BC students, and that off-campus ass-hattery was going to carry on campus punishment. What happened to that? Seems like all bark and no bite.
captain evans
ever since he left last year the cops are useless.at least he understood and tried to protect us from the drunken idiots.
Hahahahaha, you can't stop
Hahahahaha, you can't stop manifest destiny in its finest.
Seriously, BC improves the dump that is Brighton. Imagine what the property values of these places would be without the university? Not to imagine the money the place pours into the various elementary schools around the area (and free labor too, with the education majors).
Why do you live here?
"Imagine what the property values of these places would be without the university?"
ah, we can only dream...it would be so lovely.
Please leave. We'd love it.
ha, you couldn't pay me to
ha, you couldn't pay me to live in that shithole of a neighborhood. i can't imagine why saps choose to make it their permanent home. but without the school, landowners wouldn't be able to charge redic rents for slum-like apartments.
BC Grad Shows is Command
Another BC Alum shows his command of the language. The Jesuits must be proud of you! Your ability to parse the information and come to well-informed opinions is astounding. Please share more of your enlightened knowledge! We await your next post!
Bitter Brighton shows again
Personally, I've lived the past 9 months in Brighton as a BC student and I'm not impressed with the behavior of the permanent residents. As much as you complain about how horrible, evil, and morally degenerate we are, any attempt I have made to simply say good morning is meet with either indifference or contempt. The most common theme that you all complain about is the fact that you believe BC students to be rich and out of control and in every complaint this comes up. I'm not surprised as we are responsible for the higher rents you would have to pay without us but your petty class war arguments show that you really have nothing to say. Do BC kids act like asses sometimes? Sure, I had one that tried that this winter on me and broke my window which is more than you lot can say. I didn't cry or bitch, I solved it quickly with him and moved on. The fact is most of your stories are most likely fake. If you lived between Harvard, BU, and BC you would be in allston which no BC students live. The vast majority of BC students live within a 5 minute walk of one of our bus stops. The problem is that you all blame BC students for the high rents for the area around Brighton and whenever you see behavior that can validate your opinion you latch on to it and embellish on it. No we don't have parties on tuesdays (at least during the school year can't vouch for vacations) and most of our parties are done by 2am as people want to catch the buses back. If you have a problem try fighting with the slum-lords that allows your neighborhoods to rot and charge high rents for it.
Bitter Brighton? No - adults expecting you to behave like one
Sadly, this is often simply part of living in Boston.
You're asking us to prove a negative.
Ahahahahahaha.
Since many, many people have experienced similar circumstances, the burden of proof is on you to prove such "embellishment".
I guess I was repeatedly hallucinating when I lived there then.
If anything, this one line shows how utterly, completely out of touch with adulthood and civic responsibility you are. People want to have a chance to sleep before 2am. People have the right to sleep before 2am, and if you can't get your party over by the proscribed quiet hours in the city, you can expect to be hated, and you can expect the police at your door.