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Dorchester to get eponymous restaurant
By adamg on Wed, 07/23/2014 - 11:00am
The owners of Shenanigans in South Boston have bought an old party-supply store on Neponset Avenue and plan to turn it into a full-service restaurant with a similar theme and menu.
At a Boston Licensing Board hearing today, co-owner Paul Adamson and attorney Carolyn Conway said the new restaurant, to be called the Dorchester, will serve basic American fare for lunch and dinner at 367 Neponset Ave.
Conway said Adamson and co-owner Mark Cummings are making an investment in a neighborhood on the cusp of revitalization, one that is ripe for a good restaurant to anchor it.
"This is a neighborhood that is starting to really come into its own," Conway said. Some "really, really run down buildings" could soon be replaced by condos or get upgraded, she said.
The two paid $300,000 for the liquor license from Joey's on Market Street in Brighton.
They had originally sought permission to stay open until 2 a.m., but agreed to roll that back to 1 a.m. after talking to neighboring residents.
The board decides tomorrow whether to approve the purchase, which was supported by the mayor's office and city councilors Frank Baker and Steve Murphy.
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The JP-ification of
The JP-ification of Dorchester continues, for better or for worse.
God forbid
God forbid
Ha!
As opposed to Chicago-ization? I'll take JP-ification any day, thanks.
By Chicago-ization you mean...
By Chicago-ization you mean...A long history of forced housing discrimination?
No
I think he meant all those small copper-clad chunks of lead flying around at supersonic velocities.
Erm no...
and yes, I've read the Coates piece and thought it was pretty f'ing brilliant. But no--I was referring to the indiscriminate gunfire that's taken over this summer. And as a JP resident I don't think that JP-ification is a bad option.
Invade...
Invade working-class white neighborhoods = progress
Invade minority neighborhoods = evil gentrification
What's wrong
With gentrification of Dot? Wouldn't you rather see middle-class families and restaurants, or do you prefer gangbangers and empty run-down storefronts?
That area of Dot is already
That area of Dot is already full of middle class families, only a few restaurants though. Not run down storefronts and gangbangers.
Correct
But bad parts aren't that far away, and all those honest hard-working folks are forced to deal with smashed car windows and mandatory iphone donations way more often than they should.
I don't think the restaurant
I don't think the restaurant will change that, as long as criminals can travel, the car break-ins will happen. I wasn't aware of the IPhone theft issues in Neponset.
Yeesh people, get a life!
Yeesh people, get a life!
The "bad" parts of the South End are way closer to the good parts than the Neponset area is to the "bad" parts of Dorchester but I doubt anyone would ever make a comment this moronic if this was a post on a new restaurant in the South End. Actually, I doubt that there'd be any responses at all to a post like that.
Seriously, what is up with commenters being be so incredibly pissy, snarky, rude or crude every time something positive happens in Dorchester (something that's happening with -- GASP -- alarming frequency these days)? Are they people who fled in "the bad old days" and are now realizing that their crappy ranch homes on the South Shore with long commutes and half-*ssed schools are worth less than the old family homestead back in "the hood"? Or are they just really, really pathetic people in general who area looking for something, anything to make themselves feel better for being stupid/stuck in a dead end job/fat/ugly/married to the worst person in the world/what-have-you?
PS: my guess is that one is more likely to have their cell phone stolen in the Back Bay, South End, DT or Chinatown than they are in the Neponset area.Especially considering the fact that pretty much every person living in the area is either a cop or a firefighter themselves or the child of a cop or firefighter
True, but
Robbers in Dot tend to be much more violent and brazen than those in Back Bay/South End/etc - a typical Back Bay robbery is a shove, grab and run, whereas in Dot you're much more likely to end up with a gun in your face (and a slug in your chest if you don't comply.) Other than that, it's a great place to live and would be even better if all the bleeding heart "elected official" morons who don't even live there stop whining about gentrification let the neighborhood get rid of its criminal underclass. Even the best parts of Dot still have plenty of section 8 shitholes that are ruining everything around them.
I would say gentrification is
I would say gentrification is more complicated than a simple, dichotomous argument. I have pretty mixed feelings about gentrification, since I qualify eminently as a gentrifier myself. Part of the upside is what you mentioned, true, however, everyone has to be able to afford to live somewhere, and there are serious downsides for the people that are displaced from the only community they might have known.
I would also argue that the homogenization of social class that uncontrolled and rapid gentrification spurs in a neighborhood is no good for society. That goes both ways, for the gentrified neighborhood, as well the neighborhoods where poverty becomes concentrated.
There's some research showing that lower income families are more likely to move up the income ladder when living among higher income neighbors. See first link below, if curious. Other research shows we have less negative feelings of people unlike us e.g., the poor, minorities, the handicapped, when we see them up close and personally every day, vs on TV or in the newspaper. Second link below is to an article about that.
Sorry to go so far off-topic, but this is UHub afterall!
Ummm, what?
How does rewarding bad life decision with a brand new luxury apartment make the bad decision makers want to move up the income ladder? Quite the contrary - knowing one might end up in a $4000/month luxury apartment paid for by taxpayers once the right number of illegitimate babies have been popped will result in more bad decisions, not less.
Thank you for bringing up a a
Thank you for bringing up a hypothetical which doesn't exist. There are new BHA apartments in Brighton, one bedroom (I'm assuming studios) which rent for $1300 a month, if I recall.
Affordable units in luxury housing also do not have the same amenities, and they aren't subsidized for $4000 a month. I've seen $135k mortgages with monthly payments in the $700-800 range, which the affordable and moderate income qualified owners pay. So no one is living purely on the taxpayers.
Lastly, good job responding to the research.
Wrong
Living close to the underclass curbs one's idealism and injects a healthy dose of reality into all those bleeding liberal hearts. One quickly starts to realize it's completely reasonable to assume a boom-boom car idling aimlessly on a street corner is probably a drug dealer waiting for customers, and a group of teens in oversized hoodies and saggy pants following you on a deserted street is much more likely to result in a mandatory iPhone donation than a friendly conversation
Thank you for your anecdotal
Thank you for your anecdotal "evidence".
Will they have
goofy stuff on the walls and mozzarella sticks?
Shenanigan's, Home of the Liter of Cola!
You mean Shenanigan's? You're talking about Shenanigan's Right?
Snozzberries
What will the snozzberries taste like?
That'll be something unique!
The story says they...
I've never seen a restaurant with a "party store" theme. Cool!
Will they have life-size cutouts of Obama and Justin Beiber? Will the theme change with the seasons? (Lot's of pumpkins in October and Santa overload in December?)
Can't wait
for another good eatery in the Popes Hill area.
Since everyone is getting their apostrophe fetish on today,
I'll point out that there is no Mr. Shenanigan, so it's properly Shenanigans, as in Hijinks. The pub's actual sign has it as ShenaniganS, which is a bit of orthographical shenanigans.
More on my apostrophe-ess problem in restaurant names here.
That actually doesn't bother
That actually doesn't bother me nearly as much as actual restaurant names that have an apostrophe-s when there is clearly nobody by that name involved, e.g. "Dakota's", "Arizona's", et al. There are a ton of them although they're mostly slipping my mind at the moment.
EDIT: Maybe the extra apostrophe-s doesn't bother me because I actually worked at Friendly's back when it was still officially called "Friendly" but nobody called it that, ever, and eventually they just changed the name.
Too late I suppose
to observe that Shenanigans sounds like a 1980s era gay bar in some tightly closeted small Midwestern town.
Think it was just a higher
Think it was just a higher end drinking place ,loaded at night with kids , on rte 138 in Canton, might be a 99 now.....
De-apostropheized
For your convenience!
Like the neighborhood,
will it have sections that people will insist are in "a nice part"?
Well aren't you the snarky
Well aren't you the snarky (yet not at all funny or unique) one thinking s/he's all kinds of clever!
"Exurbanite". Shocker (note sarcasm). Why don't you go soak up "the good life" out in the super-classy raised pool in your enormous backyard in Weymouth and stop being an a-hole.
And well aren't you a brave anon!
Another question: Even if it's terrible, will people just not leave?
There were a lot of good jobs
There were a lot of good jobs there when it was American Scale and Conveyor,.....
Excited about new restaurant!
This will be a nice addition to the neighborhood.
"This is a neighborhood that is starting to really come into its own," Conway said. Some "really, really run down buildings" could soon be replaced by condos or get upgraded, she said.
Idk how the neighborhood I starting to come into it's own.
Where are the "really, really run down buildings" Conway speaks of? I may have to attend the Popes Hill meeting when the condo ideas are pitched, it will be interesting.
While we're talking about this neighborhood ....
... what finally happened with Ups and Downs? Did they get their license back after suspension, or sell their location to someone more reputable?
I believe the license was
I believe the license was sold, not sure what is going in yet.
Gone downtown I think
I believe, as was planned in this link, that it went to the Tea Party Museum restaurant.
http://www.universalhub.com/2012/licensing-board-dorchester-bar-did-noth...
This is why I'm happy about this new restaurant coming to Neponset. The trend has been for dive bars to close & then the permit goes somewhere downtown. This is why I want the city to wrest control of the liquor license process from the state, at $300,000+ a pop to buy a license on the artificial market it makes it hard for someone to open up a neighborhood restaurant and we could use more places in the neighborhood.
My takeaway from this is:
My takeaway from this is:
When did Joey's close? My favorite crappy pool table in the late 80s/early 90s was in Joey's!