Richard Davey talks as Rev. Jeffrey Brown (l) and architect David Manfredi listen.
If Boston gets the 2024 Olympics, backers say they would fulfill part of their goal of making permanent improvements to venues by leaving behind a new swimming pool in Franklin Park after the end of the modern pentathlon planned for the park.
The pool would go next to White Stadium, which would undergo a major renovation as a venue for both the pentathlon - whose athletes compete in five separate sports - and for equestrian events.
But at a packed meeting called by the Franklin Park Coalition and the Emerald Necklace Conservancy at the golf-course clubhouse tonight, skeptical residents questioned who would maintain the pool in a park that already has a major backlog of issues, or even if a park designed as bucolic slice of the country in the middle of the city really needs another concrete structure to go with all the other structures that have eroded Olmsted's original vision over the decades.
No problem, Boston 2024 CEO Richard Davey replied: If residents really object to a permanent pool, organizers could put in a temporary one - and figure out another way to improve the park.
Some residents objected to the idea of a bunch of rich people on horseback effectively barring park neighbors and other Boston residents from the park and questioned whether equestrian events could be simply held some place else.
Davey acknowledged the initial plan approved by the US Olympic Committee was really a "proof of concept" more than a concrete final plan and that Boston 2024 is already considering venue changes - he noted similar opposition to a beach-volleyball stadium on the Common.
Davey and architect David Manfredi discussed in broad terms how they saw Franklin Park fitting into the Olympic dream: White Stadium would get an overall redo that would include temporarily increasing its capacity to 20,000 seats, while grassy, non-fairway parts of the golf course would be turned into a course for equestrian races.
Manfredi said the stadium and the fields around it might have to be closed off to the public for up to a year to allow for construction. In contrast, the golf course would only have to be shut for about a month, he said.
When one resident asked about the potential traffic impact on Blue Hill Avenue, Davey got the biggest laugh of the night when he said organizers will be trying to convince Olympic participants and spectators to take the T.
Former state Sen. Dianne Wilkerson, who lives near the park, said she's concerned about displacement of poor residents living near venues; in fact, she said she's currently working on a master's thesis on the topic of displacement in Olympic host cities. She said both London and Beijing moved large numbers of residents to make way for their games and that in Atlants, 30,000 people were forced to move. "What we get [from the Olympics], hopefully, is we get to stay in our homes."

She added she's also concerned about ensuring local minority- and women-owned businesses get a fair shot at Olympics business.
Davey said residents should take heart that even if Boston doesn't get the 2024 games, the current planning will leave Boston a better place because that planning involves a deep look at what residents want their city to be in 20 or 30 years. One resident retorted that "feels a little bit like extortion" - as if residents cannot expect any improvements at all in the city unless the Olympics are forced down their throats.
Davey said he has taken no position either for or against City Councilor Josh Zakim's proposal for four referendum questions on the Olympics. However, he said that just based on the discussion tonight, the issues are "a lot more complicated than yes/no."
Although many in the room opposed the Olympics bid in general and the Franklin Park idea specifically, a number said they either had yet to make up their minds or supported the idea. One man said that as a White Stadium neighbor and former figure skater, he can't wait to see Olympics events there - and the improvements to the park that would come afterward.
Among those in attendance: Former Gov. Deval Patrick, who did not, however, speak.
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That's not completely
By NancyG
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 6:16pm
That's not completely accurate. The entire park was not turned into a golf course. Olmsted designed that area of the park as a Country Meadow, but had already begun to shift his designs to accommodate the wish for urban playspaces like tennis courts and baseball diamonds, usually along the edges of his more natural looking park spaces. At least the golf course is designed according to Olmsted principles and does not look like a typical golf course. What really violated Olmsted's design was the taking of 40 acres for the Shattuck hospital and the development of the stadium. I can only imagine how far from Olmsted's designs these Olympics would take the park - a pool!?. The golf course is one of the most used and most loved areas of a greatly used public park. The Olympics would change that philosophy and reality.
And the zoo
By anon
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 12:21pm
Do we need to get rid of the zoo which also uses up valuable space and CHARGES MONEY to access it? Heavens to betsy.
I hear people even drive to the zoo from outside the city, ruining our precious roads and polluting the air too. They even use the Casey Overpass to add insult to injury.
The zoo is supposed to be
By anon
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 6:32pm
The zoo is supposed to be free, according to its charter.
At some point they started taking voluntary donations. Later on, they quietly dropped the voluntary part.
You've got to be kidding me.
By NancyG
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 12:22pm
You've got to be kidding me. Obviously, you've not been there. It's not half the park and the golf course is designed in a very Olmsted-like way. That golf course is a gem and is used by the most diverse bunch of golfers you'll see anywhere - urban and suburban, male and female, young and old. They have great golf programs for urban kids and the clubhouse is used for community events (including this Olympics meeting). The fact that the golf course was so lovingly maintained by the community during all those years of neglect from the state/city is testimony to how people (Golfers and non-golfers) feel about it.
A disgusting waste?
By Sally
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 2:27pm
Again...have you ever been there? I don't play golf but it's a beautiful course. It's the second oldest public golf course in the country. Always busy with a nicely diverse range of people, not "lards" as you so sweetly call them. It's the only place I've ever seen black men golfing. And there's plenty of room in the park for everyone--do you really feel that crowded?
This is what I am afraid of
By MikeBoston
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 1:39pm
This is a snapshot of Athens' Olympic venues 10 years after the games (and $7B spent)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-...
Athens Ten Years After the Olympics
By anon
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 4:22pm
What a shame. Seven Billion gone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-...
Some of the Atlanta Olympic venues....
By Michael Kerpan
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 4:44pm
are similarly desolate.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/08/02/atlant...
Don't worry
By Neighbor2
Fri, 03/06/2015 - 1:53pm
The pool will be maintained just like the Zakim Skate park promised as part of the Big Dig.
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