If not, shut your mouth. I had so many students who did their damnedest to stay out of it but the gangs are really, really good at dragging people into their shit just because they claim your block. Also, I call bullshit on only people directly involved getting shot: there's a ton of collateral damage.
There is no evidence that he was in a gang...and even if this poor boy was...his life was taken. Alternatively, he might of not wanted to join a gang but, again, there is no evidence.
Dos Santos’s basketball coach, Paris Cherry, has said the teenager confided in him two months ago that he was being pressured to join a gang, but did not want any part of it.
If you simply stop reacting to this person he will eventually become irrelevant and disappear. If you keep paying him attention he will continue be an attention whore. In short if you don't feed the attention whores they will be forced to do their whoring on another site.
Dos Santos’s basketball coach, Paris Cherry, has said the teenager confided in him two months ago that he was being pressured to join a gang, but did not want any part of it.
I don't think this is duplicitous adolescent gang member behavior, but it sounds like the kind of thing an innocent person can get targeted for. Sounds like Dos Santos was a good kid who got sucked in to urban violence despite trying his best to avoid it. And regardless of the details, it's unfathomably assholish and privileged to think a 16-year-old deserves to die at all, let alone for having gang members in his social circles. When I was in high school I sometimes helped gang members with homework. I knew they were gang members; they just also happened to be my classmates and I was a good student. That doesn't mean that I would deserve to get shot if for some reason a confrontation were to occur.
No, I didn't know Dos Santos (though I live down the street from where he was killed). But neither did you, and there's a lot of actual tangible extant evidence that he was a good kid. Unfortunately the only evidence that he deserved to die comes from I-didn't-explicitly-mention-race-style racism, which means you're likely a giant asshole.
This poor child tried to do what was right. Why aren't the neighborhood activists protesting to bring attention to THIS death and demanding that the culprits be brought to justice?
Just because you don't see something on Fox News doesn't mean it's not happening.
And, in fact, two alleged killers were apprehended, and the police commissioner and the mayor held a press conference to announce that - not usual practice for murders in Boston.
The evening after, the corner of Fuller and Washington was full of probably hundreds of people. I didn't take a picture because that's incredibly rude, but yes, people were demanding justice, you're just an ignorant jerk.
I work down there and around 2:00 PM the next day I actually saw a HUGE fight at the intersection. Tons of BPD showed up. I don't know if it was related, but it would be silly of me to assume it wasn't.
If the Globe doesn't get more info for tomorrow. The prosecutor usually provides the basics of the case at arraignment, which will be Monday in Dorchester Municipal Court.
FYI, the victim had his gang's name as his social media handle. Not saying he wasn't a good kid, I work with gang members and a lot of them are good kids pressured into a bad situation. However, if you're publicly claiming a group, you're most likely in pretty deep.
Comments
Can't bring myself to read this
By Whurlz
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 1:04pm
I wonder if the lack of comments means others feel the same way. I will face up to this story, eventually, but I just can't right now. :(
My heart goes out to his friends, family, and teachers
By ladycommentariat
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 1:31pm
As a former public high school teacher, this shit happens all too often. Every year I lose a few former students and it's always heartbreaking.
hmm
By Scumquistador
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 1:52pm
idk maybe dont associate w gang members and u wont get shot
Says the man too lazy to type
By PastaBatman
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 2:29pm
Says the man too lazy to type "I don't know" and "with"
yeah
By Scumquistador
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 2:57pm
i thought speaking in the internet vernacular added to my implied disdain, sorry if that confused you
Well, then!
By Brian Riccio
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 3:30pm
Glad to see you living up to that screen name.
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By PastaBatman
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 4:06pm
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Asswipe
By anon
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 2:43pm
Must be nice to be a rich suburbanite. Go fuck off and die.
Do you really know what it's like to live in that environment?
By ladycommentariat
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 3:17pm
If not, shut your mouth. I had so many students who did their damnedest to stay out of it but the gangs are really, really good at dragging people into their shit just because they claim your block. Also, I call bullshit on only people directly involved getting shot: there's a ton of collateral damage.
Scum...
By whyaduck
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 3:49pm
There is no evidence that he was in a gang...and even if this poor boy was...his life was taken. Alternatively, he might of not wanted to join a gang but, again, there is no evidence.
Actually, there is. From the
By anon
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 10:59pm
Actually, there is. From the article:
You might want to read the
By moxiepower
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 5:02pm
You might want to read the whole story before commenting.
If you simply stop reacting
By Anon
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 5:34pm
If you simply stop reacting to this person he will eventually become irrelevant and disappear. If you keep paying him attention he will continue be an attention whore. In short if you don't feed the attention whores they will be forced to do their whoring on another site.
idk maybe learn the basic details before being an asshole
By Nick L
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 5:36pm
I don't think this is duplicitous adolescent gang member behavior, but it sounds like the kind of thing an innocent person can get targeted for. Sounds like Dos Santos was a good kid who got sucked in to urban violence despite trying his best to avoid it. And regardless of the details, it's unfathomably assholish and privileged to think a 16-year-old deserves to die at all, let alone for having gang members in his social circles. When I was in high school I sometimes helped gang members with homework. I knew they were gang members; they just also happened to be my classmates and I was a good student. That doesn't mean that I would deserve to get shot if for some reason a confrontation were to occur.
No, I didn't know Dos Santos (though I live down the street from where he was killed). But neither did you, and there's a lot of actual tangible extant evidence that he was a good kid. Unfortunately the only evidence that he deserved to die comes from I-didn't-explicitly-mention-race-style racism, which means you're likely a giant asshole.
UPDATE: 14 and 16 year olds arrested for murder
By Markk02474
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 5:41pm
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_cov...
interesting
By Scumquistador
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 6:03pm
sounds an awful lot like he was associating with the people that killed him
guess that pretty much validates my earlier statement!
Sigh....
By Brian Riccio
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 6:31pm
Ok....what in the Herald story said that he knew his killers?
Secondly, you really think after your first stupid comment anyone with a brain or an ounce of class is going to validate your nonsense?
Please.
the part
By Scumquistador
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 6:47pm
where it says investigators believed he knew his killers?
That doesn't mean anything
By adamg
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 7:04pm
Kids who get bullied know their bullies, but that doesn't mean they're best friends. It could be something similar here.
so where's the outrage?
By jil
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 5:42pm
This poor child tried to do what was right. Why aren't the neighborhood activists protesting to bring attention to THIS death and demanding that the culprits be brought to justice?
Such a nice little concern troll
By adamg
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 7:02pm
Just because you don't see something on Fox News doesn't mean it's not happening.
And, in fact, two alleged killers were apprehended, and the police commissioner and the mayor held a press conference to announce that - not usual practice for murders in Boston.
I live right down the street from where Dos Santos was shot
By Nick L
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 8:38pm
The evening after, the corner of Fuller and Washington was full of probably hundreds of people. I didn't take a picture because that's incredibly rude, but yes, people were demanding justice, you're just an ignorant jerk.
I work down there and around
By anon
Sun, 06/14/2015 - 8:23am
I work down there and around 2:00 PM the next day I actually saw a HUGE fight at the intersection. Tons of BPD showed up. I don't know if it was related, but it would be silly of me to assume it wasn't.
Either way, not exactly a "protest".
What caused this?
By anon
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 8:39pm
I want to know how this happened. Is the Globe or someone going to follow up?
Monday ...
By adamg
Sat, 06/13/2015 - 8:46pm
If the Globe doesn't get more info for tomorrow. The prosecutor usually provides the basics of the case at arraignment, which will be Monday in Dorchester Municipal Court.
Jonathan Dos Santos
By Screwy
Mon, 06/15/2015 - 6:49am
FYI, the victim had his gang's name as his social media handle. Not saying he wasn't a good kid, I work with gang members and a lot of them are good kids pressured into a bad situation. However, if you're publicly claiming a group, you're most likely in pretty deep.
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