Maybe I missed something (I didn't investigate too closely), but everything I see in that album is nazi memorabilia.
I'm guessing your Grandfather fought in World War II, so it would make sense for him to keep mementos from the war (I apologize in advance if I'm incorrect in this assumption). Curt Schilling is a former pitcher with no direct ties to World War II. This is like people who collect John Wayne Gacy paintings.
But hey, I collect records, Curt Schilling collects the uniforms of people who exterminated my relatives. We all have our hobbies!
you can't collect WW2 memorabilia unless you actually fought in the war? Since WW2 ended in 1945, and you were supposed to be 18 to be in the army, there can 't be any collectors under the age of 88?
of missed viewing all those documentaries shot during the civil rights era when the, ahem, "flag" was used repeatedly by the southern white racists as a backdrop.
from it's fans (see Tigers 2013 ALCS) to its owners (Tom Yawkey)....oh yea, and the two southie losers that attacked a homeless hispanic man last week after they got isht faced at fenway.
anyone who roots for this team has no morals.
- Go Blue Jays!
- Go SoBo Residents who hate racism.
... is summing up how many millions of dollars he scammed from the Rhode Island taxpayers via his government handouts. At least the MA business development and investor community was smart enough to sense a rat with a bible & gadsen flag and stay far far away.
Some of the twitter reactions are pretty hilarious though.
They sensed a rat with a business plan that just didn't work. Apparently, video games are a bit more complicated than just throwing money at it. He should have opened a restaurant, like all the other ones.
Odd as that may sound. She has been a significant player in recent efforts to confront Turkey for Armenian Genocide and works with Serj Tankian on this.
He's conservative but he wanted government to guarantee his business loan, first in Mass and when that fell through, in Rhode Island. His business didn't work out and RI taxpayers lost their 75 million. So, small government conservative except 75 million from RI taxpayers to Curt's failed business venture. I took no pleasure in that failure. I was glad MA passed on the "opportunity."
He got cancer and survived, attributes it to chewing tobacco, and wants to help others by advocating against it's use. So far so good. So he reaches out to the mayor of Boston and they decide to use government to BAN IT'S USE at baseball diamonds in Boston, even though chewing tobacco has no second-hand-smoke public health factor. It's a well-intentioned but ceremonial gesture, because it's largely unenforceable. It also runs contrary to the values of a small govt conservative-- conservatives don't usually think about banning the use of legal products.
He tracked down some a-holes on Twitter who were bullying other people (including his daughter?) Kudos Curt.
The way I read it he tried to make an argument about how 5% - 7% of Muslims are radicalized and violent, and the same percentage of Germans were Nazi's. As a result he lost his job announcing Little league World Series and then took complete responsibility for his actions. Kudos Curt. That said, who hasn't learned you're asking for trouble when you compare ANYONE or ANYTHING to Hitler and the Nazis, who invented a system to exterminate millions of undesirable human beings likes Jews, gays, gypsies, as well as the feeble and infirm.
I think the guy is pretty sincere. I don't agree with his politics but I've found a number of things I like about him outside of pitching.
He was questioning the math in the posting, that 7% of Germans were Nazi's in 1940.
It seems as though the number is accurate, at least according to Wikipedia. 5.2 million members of the Nazi party in 1939, and a German population of 79.2 million. That's 6.5%.
He did NOT compare Muslims to Nazi's, the post compared Extremists (ISIS?) to Nazi's. Big difference. The only problem I see is the percentages are unfairly high and made up on the Muslim / Extremist portion...
In 1940, it was impossible to separate the Nazi party from the state - same as it was in 1968 Russia (well, the USSR) to separate the Communist party (which had equally small membership numbers) from the country. Germany in 1940 was a Nazi state, run by Nazis. What the Big Lug's graphic says is that all of Islam is run by the fanatics. So, yeah, he is saying we should hate all Moslems.
Actually it _was_ possible to separate the Nazi party from the state and the public in 1940 Germany. Not everyone got on the bandwagon, my relatives in particular detested the Nazi party.
Before we lump everyone in 1940 Germany into the fascist camp, let's take a minute and consider the premise that Curt put out there: a small percentage can control disproportionate power in any given political setting.
That is not untrue, just stroll down to K street in DC.
Are you really going to judge the Nazis vs. the Soviets vs. Pol Pot vs. the Catholic inquisition/crusades vs. ISIL? Based on what, total body count?
Doesn't everyone know that the Ottoman Empire that still existed across all of Turkey and throughout the eastern Mediterranean at the start of WWII was from the very beginning allied with Germany? They were allied with the Nazis. What's the big deal? Doesn't anyone learn any history anymore?
Yes, you're confused. The Ottoman Empire wasn't allied with the Nazis, because the Ottoman Empire ceased to exist a few years after WWI, after most of its remaining non-Turkish lands were carved off by the French and English.
Since you're familiar with Wikipedia, you might want to look up the origins of modern-day Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Israel (here's a hint: search for "Sykes-Picot Agreement" and "Balfour Declaration"). Oh, and Turkey. It all happened after World War I, the Great War, the War to End All Wars, the War that Ended in 1918, the War that Ended Long Before the Nazis Came to Power. Yes, Israel was founded in 1948, but that only happened because the French took Lebanon and England took Palestine after WWI.
I'm not Jewish, but I've stumbled across info like this before. Apparently, the good folks in the Middle East had no problems with Nazi Germany's beliefs:
And there were back in the 1940s. There are also Jewish extremists (and there were back in the 1940s).
Blaming all Moslems for everything is like blaming all Jews for the terrorists who firebombed that Palestinian family recently. The world isn't that black and white, except to the extremists.
about 7% of the people can control a country. Probably not really far from the truth, with just about any philosophy. Maybe someone can look up Pol Pot, Communism, whatever. I'm too lazy.
But, must hand it to ISIL, (or whatever), they seem to have made for an unprecedented level of cooperation among Saudi, Egypt and Israel.
I don't blame all the Muslims for everything, but people like Hamas are training the kids to grow up hateful. I would like to ask the latest Saud king, "Hey, dude, how's that Wahabbi school thing working out for ya?"
But, ya, the world isn't black and white. What this country needs is a good dose of rationalism without the polarization of either political party.
Technically, it seems like he was comparing Muslims with Mid-20th Century Germans, and then Islamic extremists specifically with Nazis. Set and subset.
Of course, in either case, done in order to damn the set by association with the subset, so...
So what he has Nazi stuff in his collection? He is a private citizen. Museums have this stuff too since it is historically relevant.
Comparing Muslim extremists to Nazis - well that is his opinion. I personally think Muslim extremists (ISIS) are worse than Nazis.
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He had this other tolerant
He had this other tolerant post on facebook the other night too:
https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/636238289012396032
And that's still up on his page
At least as of a couple minutes ago.
As is his nazi memorabilia
As is his nazi memorabilia collection:
https://www.facebook.com/curt.schilling.56/media_set?set=a.1020562370344...
Really? He also has US uniforms and WWI Helmets (reused in WWII)
My Grandfather has Nazi patches and a Japaneses rifle, and i can assure you he's not a Nazi or a sympathizer.
Not to mention he's clearly showing his distaste for extremism by comparing them to Nazis.
Maybe I missed something (I
Maybe I missed something (I didn't investigate too closely), but everything I see in that album is nazi memorabilia.
I'm guessing your Grandfather fought in World War II, so it would make sense for him to keep mementos from the war (I apologize in advance if I'm incorrect in this assumption). Curt Schilling is a former pitcher with no direct ties to World War II. This is like people who collect John Wayne Gacy paintings.
But hey, I collect records, Curt Schilling collects the uniforms of people who exterminated my relatives. We all have our hobbies!
SO...
you can't collect WW2 memorabilia unless you actually fought in the war? Since WW2 ended in 1945, and you were supposed to be 18 to be in the army, there can 't be any collectors under the age of 88?
You can collect anything you
You can collect anything you want to collect. And I can think you're a sketchy ghoul for collecting it.
So if I have
memorabila which was passed down from family who fought I have to burn it?
It's a reminder of the sacrifice a lot of people made, both willingly and as a un-combative civilians.
Ya I'll desplay that Nazi memorabilia proudly knowing my grandfather sent him to the gates of hell.
Curt must
of missed viewing all those documentaries shot during the civil rights era when the, ahem, "flag" was used repeatedly by the southern white racists as a backdrop.
I would say "wow," but I'm not surprised
This post from the replies on that thread is pretty good, too: http://deadspin.com/six-memes-that-i-swear-curt-schilling-shared-to-his-...
EDIT: his thorough rebuttal of evolution is full of lolz as well: http://deadspin.com/curt-schilling-has-disproved-evolution-1658184048
This is news?
the Sox have a long history of racism.
from it's fans (see Tigers 2013 ALCS) to its owners (Tom Yawkey)....oh yea, and the two southie losers that attacked a homeless hispanic man last week after they got isht faced at fenway.
anyone who roots for this team has no morals.
- Go Blue Jays!
- Go SoBo Residents who hate racism.
Tom Yawkey's been dead and buried for awhile now
You might have heard - the Sox have new owners these days.
Educate yourself about Canada
Educate yourself about Canada's history of racism toward First Nations people. You are ignorant.
the only "staggering math" locals care about
... is summing up how many millions of dollars he scammed from the Rhode Island taxpayers via his government handouts. At least the MA business development and investor community was smart enough to sense a rat with a bible & gadsen flag and stay far far away.
Some of the twitter reactions are pretty hilarious though.
Actually...
They sensed a rat with a business plan that just didn't work. Apparently, video games are a bit more complicated than just throwing money at it. He should have opened a restaurant, like all the other ones.
Curt Schilling recently....
Seems to have more Kardashian than Koufax in his DNA.
Kardashian has more class.
Odd as that may sound. She has been a significant player in recent efforts to confront Turkey for Armenian Genocide and works with Serj Tankian on this.
https://youtu.be/ijutthiyD2U
Serj is about as heroic as anyone nowadays gets and La Kardashian is pretty astute despite agreeing to be America's sex joke.
Schilling, is just your typical opportunistic GOP scumbag celebrity.
Well, she is Armenian.
I guess. All the ones I know are likeable folks until you mention Turkey.
And I don't blame them.
Here, let me fix that : "Schilling, is just your typical opportunistic
GOPscumbag celebrity.Ya know, I'm right of center. There once was a time in this country when a Republican president could appoint a Democrat Treasury Secretary.
Any takers on that one? Clue: Relatively recently...
The current Dem Pres...
... has appointed Repubs to a number of high positions.
no, I don't have a concussion
Curt is hard to figure out.
He's conservative but he wanted government to guarantee his business loan, first in Mass and when that fell through, in Rhode Island. His business didn't work out and RI taxpayers lost their 75 million. So, small government conservative except 75 million from RI taxpayers to Curt's failed business venture. I took no pleasure in that failure. I was glad MA passed on the "opportunity."
He got cancer and survived, attributes it to chewing tobacco, and wants to help others by advocating against it's use. So far so good. So he reaches out to the mayor of Boston and they decide to use government to BAN IT'S USE at baseball diamonds in Boston, even though chewing tobacco has no second-hand-smoke public health factor. It's a well-intentioned but ceremonial gesture, because it's largely unenforceable. It also runs contrary to the values of a small govt conservative-- conservatives don't usually think about banning the use of legal products.
He tracked down some a-holes on Twitter who were bullying other people (including his daughter?) Kudos Curt.
The way I read it he tried to make an argument about how 5% - 7% of Muslims are radicalized and violent, and the same percentage of Germans were Nazi's. As a result he lost his job announcing Little league World Series and then took complete responsibility for his actions. Kudos Curt. That said, who hasn't learned you're asking for trouble when you compare ANYONE or ANYTHING to Hitler and the Nazis, who invented a system to exterminate millions of undesirable human beings likes Jews, gays, gypsies, as well as the feeble and infirm.
I think the guy is pretty sincere. I don't agree with his politics but I've found a number of things I like about him outside of pitching.
What's the issue?
He was questioning the math in the posting, that 7% of Germans were Nazi's in 1940.
It seems as though the number is accurate, at least according to Wikipedia. 5.2 million members of the Nazi party in 1939, and a German population of 79.2 million. That's 6.5%.
The issue is that he compared
The issue is that he compared Muslims to Nazis.
No, try reading it again
He did NOT compare Muslims to Nazi's, the post compared Extremists (ISIS?) to Nazi's. Big difference. The only problem I see is the percentages are unfairly high and made up on the Muslim / Extremist portion...
It's not that sophisticated a graphic
In 1940, it was impossible to separate the Nazi party from the state - same as it was in 1968 Russia (well, the USSR) to separate the Communist party (which had equally small membership numbers) from the country. Germany in 1940 was a Nazi state, run by Nazis. What the Big Lug's graphic says is that all of Islam is run by the fanatics. So, yeah, he is saying we should hate all Moslems.
Actually it _was_ possible to
Actually it _was_ possible to separate the Nazi party from the state and the public in 1940 Germany. Not everyone got on the bandwagon, my relatives in particular detested the Nazi party.
Before we lump everyone in 1940 Germany into the fascist camp, let's take a minute and consider the premise that Curt put out there: a small percentage can control disproportionate power in any given political setting.
That is not untrue, just stroll down to K street in DC.
Are you really going to judge the Nazis vs. the Soviets vs. Pol Pot vs. the Catholic inquisition/crusades vs. ISIL? Based on what, total body count?
It's a stupid argument.
Thanks for 2004, Curt, now please
STFU and go away.
I'm confused here
Doesn't everyone know that the Ottoman Empire that still existed across all of Turkey and throughout the eastern Mediterranean at the start of WWII was from the very beginning allied with Germany? They were allied with the Nazis. What's the big deal? Doesn't anyone learn any history anymore?
You might want to ponder your last question
Yes, you're confused. The Ottoman Empire wasn't allied with the Nazis, because the Ottoman Empire ceased to exist a few years after WWI, after most of its remaining non-Turkish lands were carved off by the French and English.
oops. wrong war.
The eastern Mediterranean was carved up after WWII not WWI. Remember 1948?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Theatre_of_World_War_II
You might want to stop digging yourself into that hole ...
Since you're familiar with Wikipedia, you might want to look up the origins of modern-day Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Israel (here's a hint: search for "Sykes-Picot Agreement" and "Balfour Declaration"). Oh, and Turkey. It all happened after World War I, the Great War, the War to End All Wars, the War that Ended in 1918, the War that Ended Long Before the Nazis Came to Power. Yes, Israel was founded in 1948, but that only happened because the French took Lebanon and England took Palestine after WWI.
I object
What on earth have you seen that makes you think he has the capacity to learn from his own mistakes?
I don't get it.
He said extremist muslims (like ISIS for instance) are Nazis? Well... aren't they?
It's unfortunate, but no, you don't get it
He compared all Muslims to Germany in 1940.
Um, I found this...
I'm not Jewish, but I've stumbled across info like this before. Apparently, the good folks in the Middle East had no problems with Nazi Germany's beliefs:
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/nazis.html
I assume it's somewhat on the level, having read (or saw on TV) these connections before in stuff like rocketry.
I prefer Bronze Age Iraq.
Yes, there are Moslem extremists
And there were back in the 1940s. There are also Jewish extremists (and there were back in the 1940s).
Blaming all Moslems for everything is like blaming all Jews for the terrorists who firebombed that Palestinian family recently. The world isn't that black and white, except to the extremists.
It seems that he said that
about 7% of the people can control a country. Probably not really far from the truth, with just about any philosophy. Maybe someone can look up Pol Pot, Communism, whatever. I'm too lazy.
But, must hand it to ISIL, (or whatever), they seem to have made for an unprecedented level of cooperation among Saudi, Egypt and Israel.
I don't blame all the Muslims for everything, but people like Hamas are training the kids to grow up hateful. I would like to ask the latest Saud king, "Hey, dude, how's that Wahabbi school thing working out for ya?"
But, ya, the world isn't black and white. What this country needs is a good dose of rationalism without the polarization of either political party.
7%
Try one tenth of one percent.
Oh, wait, oligarchy in the US is okay by Schilling.
Perhaps he's focussing on the wrong fraction as a distraction?
Technically...
Technically, it seems like he was comparing Muslims with Mid-20th Century Germans, and then Islamic extremists specifically with Nazis. Set and subset.
Of course, in either case, done in order to damn the set by association with the subset, so...
Who's Curt
Schilling?
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So what he has Nazi stuff in his collection? He is a private citizen. Museums have this stuff too since it is historically relevant.
Comparing Muslim extremists to Nazis - well that is his opinion. I personally think Muslim extremists (ISIS) are worse than Nazis.