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Board rejects new Grove Hall liquor store
By adamg on Thu, 01/28/2016 - 4:40pm
The Boston Licensing Board today sided with residents and elected officials and denied a license for a liquor store proposed for 438 Blue Hill Ave.
At a hearing yesterday, residents and representatives from the mayor, six city councilors and two state representatives said there was no public need for yet another liquor store in an area that already has eight of them within a half mile.
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Cool.
No need for a new liquor store, but it looks like there was a need for another empty storefront for 10 years.
I'm sure that a retail bank
I'm sure that a retail bank will snatch that space up.
Or a cell phone store or a
Or a cell phone store or a Dunkins.
most likely
The nontaxable New Gospel Holy Light Savior Garden Church of His Mighty Temple
Change...
How about a space that the community could benefit from. A computer lab to help people look for a job. A place that will offer computer classes for free to get a job using the computer knowledge. A building that gives support and info on resumes, dress code for interviews, have job listings on a bulletin board. Redo the library. A womens group where they can listen motivation speakers, learn to cook new meals, parenting classes. A place where kids can learn about computers, use computers, get help with their homework, learn about respect, morals, success. A martial art center or anything along those lines!!! Do the library over. Grovehall does not another liquor store, food place, a convient store, something more positive will do!!! The hall is compacted to barbershops, a nail salon, food places and etc. Bring something new!!! Even a damn gym!!!!!
Sooooooo get off your a** and
Sooooooo get off your a** and go do it!!!
The place needs actions not words.
It's funny how some people are so quick to invest other people's money, time, and effort yet ask them do something and they sit there as useless as could be. And they will give you some endless list of excuses for them to continue doing nothing.
But they do nothing
well!
So
You want a school there?
Yes please
I can do any of the above, just need a million or so and i'll get right to it. Oh, and another half mil or so a year to keep it open. Will it be cash or check, Mr philanthropist?
The Mecca development did much of that already.
I suspect a lot of people posting have never been to Grove Hall. It is not some burned out hell hole people. There are a bunch of small businesses. There is a neighborhood. There is lots going on. It looks just as good to me as any other Boston neighborhood business district. Cleary Square, Codman Square, Maverick Square etc. Could things be better? Yes. Does it need more investment? Yes, just like every other city business hub.
been to Grove Hall lately?
nightmare, there is a fairly new library in Grove Hall with computers that people can access to look for work or whatever the hell they want to do on a computer. When was the last time you've been in Grove Hall? Have you seen our new library? How about the community center, been there yet?
I live in the area!!!! I will
I live in the area!!!! I will admit that I haven't noticed the new library. But to sum this ALL up. The Hall DONT need another liquor store. Point, blank, period!!! Besides the library with computers, I didn't put them in the same sentence. I said a place that has computers for job search, have resume help and etc!!!!
Soo...
your average public library.
Was those comments for me?
Was those comments for me? 1st off they was suggestions!!!! But screw it add another liquor store to a area with several other liquor stores!! By the way those liquor stores don't benefit a community!!!! Carry on....
A liquor store
benefits the community more than an empty storefront does. This "prove the public need" stuff is pure bullcrap.i
Hooray for community activism!
Hooray for community activism!! I don't live in Grove Hall but I was a Dorchester resident for 25 years so I AM familiar with the area. If you do not live in this neighborhood and/or have no plans on moving there you have absolutely no right to stick your nose up and instruct its residents to just accept yet another liquor store or else open their own business. If you have any sense, you would know that 8 liquor stores within a half mile radius in an inner-city neighborhood is NOT about an obvious local demand for them from the community (which was mentioned by a uHub poster in both threads). I understand business concepts and completely comprehend the model of supply and demand. However, this is about impoverished neighborhoods being a dumping ground for businesses that take advantage of the limited resources and/or circumstances of the people that live there (I.e. a zillion fast food joints, liquor stores, etc.). Well it's clear that Grove Hall residents are no longer going for it and I support them all the way! The area HAS come a long way and the community is trying to continue down this path. Don't judge the woman who made all those nice suggestions of other ways to use the space. I think they were fabulous ideas. Not everyone is in a position to start a business but I'm glad she's thinking in the right direction about what could be!
Problems with the above suggestions
My questions is - who is going to pay for it? A business owner is not going to start a business that provides computers, internet, speakers, cooking classes, etc for free. It would be out of business in a month and the owner would be penniless. Would the community be willing to pay for such services? I teach boxing to kids in the area and most don't have the extra (or any) income to pay for such things.
I have the same feeling about a restaurant. Would it be a nice addition? I suppose, but who is going to open a nice restaurant there? Where would the help come from? A small restaurant owner does not have the time to train new waitstaff, computer reservation systems and food knowledge basics to the untrained. If they were to open a chain restaurant there, it would be a different story, but the space is not nearly big enough.. Also, back to the cost - will the neighborhood support a restaurant with $20 entrees?
I agree with the poster above who says people have to get off their ass and come up with something. Don't want a liquor store? Get together as a community and see if you can fund some sort of business that helps out the people who live there. I'm fairly certain with a little personal investment, the people of the neighborhood would make it more successful than if it were city run or a business made by an outsider.