Hey, there! Log in / Register

State wants to make sure it's not barking up wrong tree with proposed Stony Brook dog park

By adamg on Wed, 02/03/2016 - 6:54pm

DCR holds a hearing Thursday, Feb. 11, on proposed designs for turning the shuttered Thompson Center in Stony Brook Reservation in Hyde Park into a dog park.

The session begins at 6:30 p.m. at the Hyde Park Municipal Building, 1179 River St.

Neighborhoods: 
Hyde Park
Free tagging: 
Pets
Dogs
Stony Brook Reservation


Ad:


Like the job UHub is doing? Consider a contribution. Thanks!

Comments

By Rob Not Verified on Wed, 02/03/2016 - 7:31pm.

Meeting is Thursday, February 11th, not tomorrow

up
Voting closed 0

By adamg on Wed, 02/03/2016 - 8:28pm.

Fixed.

up
Voting closed 0

By whatsboothinking? on Wed, 02/03/2016 - 9:08pm.

only stipulation : no pit bulls

up
Voting closed 0

By SwirlyGrrl on Wed, 02/03/2016 - 10:12pm.

Define "pit bull".

Please support your definition with genetic evidence demonstrating that they are a separate species from other dogs, or cite specific alleles that "explain" that they are somehow behaviorally different from other dogs.

Good luck.

up
Voting closed 0

By whatsboothinking? on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:14am.

you register your dig. if your dog is registered as a pit bull it is a pit bull. smartass

up
Voting closed 0

By anon on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:25am.

Banned breed discrimination several years back. It overruled the city's mandatory muzzle law for pits.

Assuming this park is mostly public, they couldn't make such a rule legally. So it's not a funny joke, just ill-informed trolling.

up
Voting closed 0

By anon on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 9:42am.

http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-faq.php

Q: Why do people say that pit bulls "don't let go?"
Through selective breeding, pit bulls have developed enormous jaw strength, as well as a ruinous "hold and shake" bite style, designed to inflict the maximum damage possible on their victims. This bite trait delivered winning results in the fighting pit. When the Colorado Supreme Court upheld the Denver pit bull ban in 2005, the high court set aside characteristics that pit bulls displayed when they attack that differ from all other dog breeds. One of these characteristics was their lethal bite:
"[pit bulls] inflict more serious wounds than other breeds. They tend to attack the deep muscles, to hold on, to shake, and to cause ripping of tissues. Pit bull attacks were compared to shark attacks."13
Leading pit bull education websites, such as Pit Bull Rescue Central, encourage pit bull owners to be responsible and to always carry a "break stick" -- a tool used to pry open a pit bull's jaws -- in case their dog "accidentally" gets into a fight. These same websites also warn that using a break stick on any other dog breed may cause serious injury to the person.14 This is true because no other dog breed possesses the pit bull's tenacity combined with a "hold and shake" bite style.

up
Voting closed 0

By SwirlyGrrl on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:14pm.

It is entirely discredited bullshit. That site is a mythology site.

Pit bulls are dogs. Period. https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/posi...

Like I said before ... show us some SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

Meanwhile, let's look at some anecdata:

My two year old was attacked by my SIL's dog. A king charles cavalier spaniel that ran across a field to jump him. (the dog didn't like little kids, but my SIL is a dumbass hippy who "doesn't like leashes").

My neighbors Jack Russell Terrorist ... again, often off leash

People walking in the woods with their "off leash dogs": german shepherd chased my kids in from the back yard; A Siberian Husky was regularly attacking people in my neighborhood. Again, off-leash.

My husband was jumped by a Rottweiler on a dumbass zip lead on the bike path.

My brother's Bichon was attacked by a Great Dane who jumped a fence (second time the dog had attacked another dog)

What's the common denominator here? Dumbass owners.

I have had zero issues with dogs known as pit bulls.

They are dogs. Period. That's why breed bans were "put down" in Massachusetts.

up
Voting closed 0

By Sally on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:58am.

is notoriously anti-pb but other totally pro-pit rescue sites like pbrc.net and Bad Rap do not recommend dog parks.

up
Voting closed 0

By SwirlyGrrl on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:19pm.

It has more to do with the owners than the dogs.

Know what causes the most issues at dog parks? "microagressors" - meaning "tiny dogs that are hella aggressive but their dimwit owners think that's cute". At least my neighbor knows not to take her Terriorist to the park when it is crowded.

up
Voting closed 0

By Anon on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:16pm.

Exactly - pit bulls, like guns, were created to kill, and are deadly in the wrong hands yet completely harmless with a responsible owner. So why are you clowns so pro-pit bull yet so anti-gun?

up
Voting closed 0

By Sally on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:50pm.

Because that's not my experience at all. Then again, I'm not demanding "prove it" while backing up my own claims with nothing but personal anecdotes and a policy statement from a group that while well-intentioned, is primarily concerned with finding homes for homeless and abandoned dogs--a huge number of which are pit bulls (along with chihuahuas--also sadly popular in shelters). This is a challenging and controversial issue even in hard-core rescue circles. Personally I come down on the side of the folks who acknowledge that these dogs can come with issues that demand extra expertise and responsibility than your average 20-lb mutt.

up
Voting closed 0

By Katie on Wed, 02/03/2016 - 11:36pm.

In addition, please tell how you will ensure that no pit bulls enter this park. Security cameras? Dog park police?

Like the other poster said ... good luck with that.

up
Voting closed 0

By whatsboothinking? on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:16am.

it was a joke on the fact that people hate/ are afraid of pits

up
Voting closed 0

By cat on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 10:34am.

....are afraid of pit bulls.

I don't get the humor - at all - of an ignorant comment.

up
Voting closed 0

By Sally on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:48am.

and I'm not "afraid" of them necessarily but anyone who tells you that pit bulls are no more likely to have issues at a dog park than other dogs is just plain clueless or in denial. And any swirly stats about dogs biting people have nothing to do with it--they have a genetic pre-disposition towards dog aggression which is not the same as aggression towards people. Does that mean that they're all dog aggressive? No, but the likelihood is higher and the potential damage is greater because of their strength and size. Most responsible pb rescues will urge extreme caution about dog parks, introducing strange dogs carefully, and monitoring behavior.

up
Voting closed 0

By SwirlyGrrl on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:16pm.

hey have a genetic pre-disposition towards dog aggression

Genetic? Prove it.

https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/posi...

up
Voting closed 0

By Sally on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:41pm.

There's plenty of info out there on dog genetics. They're not humans--they've been bred for hundreds of years for different characteristics. Are you honestly trying to say that the behavior of all dogs--from Rottweilers and Anatolian shepherds to Pekingese and Jack Russell's is all the same? Or--don't tell me--all because of the way they're raised? So I can train my Labrador to herd sheep, get my Maltese to start pointing ducks, and turn my German shepherd into a dog that welcomes every stranger with a big goofy tail-wag and endless face-licking? Good luck with that.

up
Voting closed 0

By likes dogs on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 6:49am.

I hope the leash laws will be enforced here (unlike at Millenium Park).

up
Voting closed 0

By Yupster on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 8:24am.

Or Medal of Honor Park.

up
Voting closed 0

By Rob Not Verified on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 9:10am.

The point of a fenced in dog park is to create a confined area for dogs to run and play off-leash...

up
Voting closed 0

By Windypig on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 10:53am.

Thats the whole purpose.

up
Voting closed 0

By chaosjake on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 4:52pm.

The Dog Park Association of Southwest Boston (the org that's pushing to bring a dog park to the Thompson Center) has posted signs at Millennium Park pretending to be park rules from the city Parks Department that encourage dog owners to let their dogs roam off leash.

When confronted, they responded:

I believe the sign you are referring to is the Manners Matter poster we placed up at Millennium.

I realize the sign is incongruent with Parks Department signs that require all dogs to be leashed but the reality is that hundreds of dog owners frequent Millennium Park 365 days a year and most let their dogs run free.

I do not think this organization can be trusted to administer an environment where rules are enforced to ensure safety of all dogs.

up
Voting closed 0

By roadman on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:23pm.

I realize the sign is incongruent with Parks Department signs that require all dogs to be leashed but the reality is that hundreds of dog owners frequent Millennium Park 365 days a year and most let their dogs run free we are too self-important to care about obeying rules.

Fixed it.

up
Voting closed 0

By Anon on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 6:04pm.

That sign made me angry - it was encouraging people to break the clearly-stated rule that dogs must be kept on their leashes at Millennium. I thought about taking it down, but didn't want to have a confrontation with a dog owner.

I did report it on Bos:311, but don't know if they did anything about it.

up
Voting closed 0

By chaosjake on Fri, 02/05/2016 - 1:50pm.

It was still there on Christmas Eve, the last time I was there.

up
Voting closed 0