By adamg on Thu., 4/14/2016 - 10:01 am
Josh Wardell watched in amazement this morning as the warning lights came on where the train tracks cross Main Street in Cambridge and drivers said "screw that" and just kept on going.
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Yup! Boston drivers, and bay state drivers, generally,
By mplo
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 4:53pm
are quite badly behaved, but New York drivers are rather badly-behaved as well, many of them. Unlike a lot of Bay State drivers, however, at least many New York drivers, as badly behaved as they may be, are alert.
As we all know
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 2:32pm
People driving in Cambridge are not the same people who are driving in Boston. The river has no bridges for them, after all.
The location doesn't matter.
By mplo
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 2:14pm
Drovers should have sense enough to slow down and/or stop when they see the flashing lights and hear the bells on the railroad signals, whether it's in Cambridge, Boston, or any place else..
Drovers
By ElizaLeila
Tue, 04/19/2016 - 11:27am
Drovers don't always have control of the lead animals they're herding.
The lights are definitely there
By Daniel
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:37am
Here's google maps street view: https://goo.gl/maps/85rkQisw1CN2
No cross bars, but the usual blinking red lights are there.
yes
By Saul
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:41am
Yes, the red lights were definitely flashing.
Bells were working
By Waquiot
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:38am
When he pans to the street, you can hear them. When he pans to the train, you cannot.
As someone who works very near this
By whyaduck
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 2:00pm
and passes the spot at least twice daily, I can tell you that the bells do indeed ring as well as signals which flash. The crossing bells start way before the train ever shows up.
It never ceases to amaze me that so many drivers will keep going over the tracks as the train approaches. Because any train literally crawls through at this point (per the video) perhaps the car drivers think that it is no big deal. Very foolish anyway you cut it.
That looks like
By Kathode
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:34am
Main St rather than Mass. Ave. People still ignore the train, tho.
You're right
By adamg
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:39am
Thanks, fixed.
Worth noting...
By octr202
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:54am
...in addition to the private cars, there's an ABC Moving truck, and the first vehicles across appears to be an MIT Facilities truck.
Being a low-speed, low-volume, and non-revenue (as far as the owner MBTA is concerned), many if not all of the crossings are considered "crossing protection out of service" by the railroad, requiring stop and protect (train crew flags the crossing).* In practice, it's so well ignored the train crews do a stop and proceed at all of them, which of course just encourages drivers to pay even less attention.
*Yes, most of them work, but when they're placed "out of service" by the railroad it means they're not confident of their condition and function, so train crews by rule then have to stop and flag. Not such a big deal on this line since they pretty much have to because of the drivers.
Section 15: Precautions at railroad crossings
By Saul
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:10am
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/T...
Station a Cambridge cop where the video's being recorded and there you have a quick $1,000 or so in revenue for the state.
$100 is nothing
By polarbare
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 12:02pm
make them do the 50 hours of community service, then it'll stop.
People ignore the lights
By anon
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:44am
People ignore the lights because the train always stops and waits for traffic to stop at these crossings.
Region 1 FRA Federal Railroad Administration
By theszak
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:48am
Region 1 Cambridge FRA Federal Railroad Administration
https://www.fra.dot.gov/Page/P0236
The Blue Moon truck blocks their view
By Josh Wardell
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:54am
In no defense whatsoever for those ignoring the working visual and audible signals, but that Blue Moon truck was blocking eastbound drivers' view of the train and the right side crossing sign.
These signals are commonly ignored until the train comes into view, and it amazes me. But to see someone stop on the tracks completely unaware of a train a few feet away was exceptional. There was more than a car length between him and the car in front.
The signal bells are working, but not loud at all. Thankfully this was just one engine. Trains come through here a few times a day, sometimes with several cars. Maybe adding some strobe lights to the signals to get extra attention would help, as you see with some traffic lights.
I'm usually proud of our assertive masshole driving, but don't mess with trains, folks. You won't win.
At least they're stopping on the tracks...
By octr202
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 12:32pm
...at a low speed crossing.
I see it happen at home in Andover, where we have slower moving commuter trains (due to the station), but also Amtrak that comes through at 60 mph. The same people who pull into an intersection without having a place to go on the other side (blocking the box) often do it on railroad crossings, where the non-traffic fine penalty can be a bit more severe.
I won't stop on the tracks
By BikerGeek
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 1:33pm
I don't start to cross railroad tracks unless and until I can see that there's enough room on the other side for my car. It's not uncommon that the chowderhead behind me starts blowing the horn because I refuse to move my car forward ten feet and block the tracks while waiting in a line of traffic.
That's how I was taught
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:17pm
But the penalty for failure in a more rural state is far higher - as in "the remains of you and your vehicle will be located 1 mile down the tracks".
I have had that experience of being honked at, too. Then screamed at because the gates came down and we had to wait. Too bad. I'm not going to die because some asshole is in a hurry.
Swirlygrrl, you are the best.
By ZedThou
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 2:49am
Swirlygrrl, you are the best.
That's the sensible, sane approach, BikerGeek.
By mplo
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 8:14pm
Kudos to you for sticking to your guns and not giving into the jerks who insist on honking their horns because you stood your ground and refused to move your car forward and block the tracks, and thereby risk both your life and that of the driver of the train.
I recently waited until I had 2 spaces in front of me
By anon
Sat, 04/16/2016 - 12:48am
I stopped as I couldn't clear tracks. Guy behind me starts honking. Space for my car opened up but there would have been no space behind me. I envisioned the knucklehead behind getting stuck on the tracks and spinning into me if he got hit by train. So I waited until I could proceed far enough forward for that not to be possible too. Sorry angry impatient dude!
No.
By whyaduck
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 2:04pm
The signal bells are loud enough and no new lights are needed. The trains, as they come through, also blow their horns which are very loud. If you, as a driver (or cyclist and/or pedestrian), can't figure out that "gee, train tracks, bells, lights, oh, horn...must be a train...me stop" than I don't know what to say.
The Blue Moon truck is parked in a bike lane, too
By Ron Newman
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 1:20pm
as you can see from this Street View.
Nothing more Masshole than Blocking the Box
By tmrozzie
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 12:51pm
It's a twofer!
Somerville
By ElizaLeila
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 1:12pm
Where this line crosses Medford St in Somerville there are gates. Which fail often. That combined with the poster above who noted their affinity for failure would be why Cambridge didn't request the gates on Main St.
I hope that the stupid driver
By Lisa
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 2:26pm
I hope that the stupid driver stopped on the tracks had a heart attack. The drivers in that area are HORRIBLE! They never stop for pedestrians in the crosswalks either (including police vehicles).
It's obviously the cyclist's
By Steve H
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 3:30pm
It's obviously the cyclist's fault!
Oh, wait... ;)
not all assholes are
By anon
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 5:18pm
not all assholes are massholes. some of these dribers cpul be from oit of state
Well I'll be damned,
By anon
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 7:13pm
Regardless if the train was going slow or not, It's common sense. What if it wasn't going slow and that last dummy didn't clear the tracks in time?
Then we'd have one fewer
By Saul
Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:56pm
Then we'd have one fewer dummy in Massachusetts and a damaged T locomotive?
the easy solution..
By anon
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 10:22am
The easy solution would to just have a (Transit?) cop park there and give out tickets. Not saying it would stop everyone but once you are ticketed once you'll remember.
Need Officer Mike
By Eighthman
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 10:30am
Back in the day (15+ years ago), where a spur line crossed routes 2/3/16 between the rotaries at Fresh Pond, a train with a few cars would occasionally go through. There was no gate, and I don't remember if there were even lights. I understood that the train delivered supplies for a commercial bakery in Watertown. When the train needed to cross, a RR official would park in the gas station next to it, and halt traffic. One time, we were fortunate to have him help us ferry a momma duck and ducklings across to the pond. Foundations were built for a crossing gate, but never finished.
Watertown Branch
By Saul
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 12:44pm
That was the Watertown branch of the Fitchburg line, and the tracks are still there.
https://goo.gl/maps/2YbLvFa8zYx
Watertown branch
By Ron Newman
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 1:18pm
has been disused for so long that trees are growing between the rails. It is officially abandoned now and at least the part south of Concord Ave. is to be converted to a bike path.
It was used regularly up
By DTP
Sat, 04/16/2016 - 12:33am
It was used regularly up until the last customer went away in 2007. Not that long ago.
is it freight or passenger service?
By Peg
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 1:59pm
I was driving in Cambridge last night and noticed RR Crossing signs. What is that line used for? and where does it go? I usually commute to and from North Station and am curious about where the freight cars there go.
Mostly passenger car movements
By Waquiot
Fri, 04/15/2016 - 10:29pm
The cars are ferried along the line to the maintenance facility at North Station.
Also, I believe produce that is shipped in via CSX goes that way en route to Chelsea, but in any event the small amount of freight uses a spur by North Station to get to its destination.
The Grand Junction is the
By DTP
Sat, 04/16/2016 - 12:37am
The Grand Junction is the sole Boston-area connection between the north and south sides of the commuter rail system. Since all heavy maintenance is carried out at Boston Engine Terminal in Somerville, equipment is regularly moved back and forth via the Grand Junction. Work trains also use it carrying things like ballast and ties around the system.
Amtrak also uses the GJ to move Downeaster trains to Southampton St Yard for service.
Additionally, CSX uses it for one daily freight train to Chelsea/Everett, carrying primarily produce and scrap metal.
The branch once in a while plays host to things like the Circus Train as well. It's actually an unexpectedly busy rail line, seeing on average 2-3 moves a day.
Thanks for the information
By Peg
Tue, 04/19/2016 - 3:19pm
Thanks for the information. Could the line play any role in the discussion of the proposed tunnel between North and South stations?
No, as on the north end the
By DTP
Wed, 04/20/2016 - 9:55am
No, as on the north end the connection is to the Fitchburg line heading toward North Station, and on the south end the connection is to the Worcester line heading toward Worcester at Beacon Park. The North-South Rail Link would need to connect to more than just one pair of lines, and be located downtown rather than Allston-Cambridge-Somerville.
There is on-and-off discussion about routing some Worcester trains to North Station via the GJ, but this is unlikely to happen.
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