State Police report arresting a man they say attacked a group of beachgoers this afternoon with both a hammer and racial slurs.
Gianpaolo Cerretani, 24, faces charges of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, assault with a dangerous weapon, civil rights violation, threats to commit a crime disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, State Police say.
State Police say Cerretani's ire was raised when he stole a little child's football and a group of Hispanic and black teenagers and men grabbed it back and returned it to the kid. He got a hammer from somewhere and began swinging it at the teens and man while shouting racial epithets, State Police say.
One of the group, an 18-year-old Hispanic man from Lowell, was struck by the hammer, suffering minor injuries, they continue:
As numerous troopers rushed to the scene, the group of youths and young men got the hammer away from Cerretani and subdued him.
When troopers reached the fracas, they placed Cerretani, who was bleeding from cuts on his head, into handcuffs while they interviewed victims and witnesses. After troopers had Cerretani cuffed, he shouted another racial slur and an obscenity at one of the group, and also shouted at troopers, calling one of them a "pig." He shouted to a trooper, "I'll take you too."
State Police say they took the man to Whidden Memorial Hospital in Everett for observation. They add he hurled a racial epithet at a black security guard there.
Innocent, etc.
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No shit
By Kaz
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 10:05am
The point is not whether blacks have committed more violent crimes against whites. It's whether they were racially motivated in doing so.
You see, a lot of violent crime has shit-all to do with race and everything to do with money and opportunity. There are a lot more white people and they tend to have more money, so they are going to be the target of violent crime more often. In fact, in 2010 it was like 60% white to 15% black Americans in America. So, the fact that your violent crime numbers are 430k to 90k is almost exactly in proportion...which means you are barely above background.
In other words, keep reading and let me know when you get to statistics and understanding the antecedent.
The stats hold. As you state
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 10:21am
The stats hold. As you state blacks only make up 15% of the population yet they commit 4x more intraracial crime. Adjust for population numbers and WOW the black population is massively over represented in committing intraracial crime.
"In other words, keep reading and let me know when you get to statistics and understanding the antecedent."
It's like talking to a cucumber...
By Kaz
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 10:31am
No brain waves.
I have a bag full of red and blue balls. There are 4x as many red balls as blue ones.
You pick one at random without looking. Is it blue or red? How often will it be blue and how often will it be red?
Now, if a white person is picking they'll get 4-to-1 white people to attack.
If a black person is picking, they'll also get 4-to-1 white people to attack.
The number of black people attacking anyone is irrelevant to your argument of whether black-on-white hate crime is underreported by the police and news. But you're not here to actually argue that, are you? You're just here to let us know you hate black people. We've got it. You can move on now.
Lets do some math!
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 10:55am
Lets do some math!
(90,717 /197,870,516)*100,000= 45 per 100k white committed interracial crime
(429,444/42,000,000)*100,000= 1,022 per 100k black committed interracial crime
Talk about a disparity! On a per capita basis the black population is 22x more likely to commit interracial crime. Now if only the non black population was 22X larger than the black population, only than would your point hold any water. Your balls have fallen out of the bag! If your point had merit the black population would only be 6x more likely to commit interracial crime.
Its okay, numbers are hard, way easier to just cry RACIST!
"In other words, keep reading and let me know when you get to statistics and understanding the antecedent."
Quick what's 334,566/1,343,333?
By Kaz
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 11:10am
Because that would be as relevant as the math you just did.
What are you trying to prove? I thought it was that when black people attack white people DUE TO RACE that it gets missed.
You didn't have any evidence of that and tried to conjure up some theory that the police intentionally sweep it under the rug with complicity from the press.
Then you started telling us all how many interracial violent crimes there are and left the "DUE TO RACE" part in the dust.
Now, you're trying to divide numbers to prove that there's a per capita problem without any understanding of the underlying variables involved as if your back-of-the-envelope calculation has any bearing on reality. You don't even know if the FBI and the census use the same underlying definitions of white and black let alone why the numbers might have confounding variables that you haven't accounted for yet. You know...statistics things.
And at this point, you're so far down some racist rabbit hole that you seem to think you're winning(?) when you lost your original thread back at the beginning. You're so wound up on proving that black people commit crimes (and lots of it) that you've flung your original premise about single-bias crimes and reporting bias aside and demonstrated what your true intent actually was all along.
Good luck with that.
What happened to your
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 11:28am
What happened to your statistics based argument? Back to crying racist? Could you identify a beef you have with any of my numbers?
Statistical arguments are valid still
By anon
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 11:33am
You didn't refute them.
They are also useless when arguing with a person who has no concept of probability, only of his own irrational and paralyzing fear of "those" people.
As demonstrated the black
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 12:01pm
As demonstrated the black population is 22x more likely to be involved in interracial violence. If the probability accurately reflected their population numbers they would only be 6x more likely.
As Kaz already demonstrated
By anon
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 12:12pm
Giving any meaning to those numbers is a statstical and logical fallacy.
Just because you can do arithmetic doesn't mean that you understand actual statistics. Coursera has some good courses on inference if you REALLY want to know why we think you are a foolish racist here.
So you are incapable of
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 12:59pm
So you are incapable of disputing numbers with numbers and will as a result resort to name calling?
If I were Kaz, I'd also do
By MC Slim JB
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 1:19pm
what I suspect he's doing, which is conclude that you're too ignorant about statistics to waste time arguing with.
Life's too short to wrangle with every online yutz who thinks his grasp of long division equates to the barest understanding of stats.
So you can dispute none of
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 1:48pm
So you can dispute zero of the provided numbers so prefer to dismiss them as they do not fit your preconceived worldview?
The numbers fit my worldview
By Dot net
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 1:52pm
The numbers fit my worldview perfectly. The majority of people who are the victims of crime are from a group that makes up the majority.
There's nothing else to say, except maybe go back to looking at feet?
Do you know what "dispute" means?
By lbb
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 3:04pm
You're obviously as dumb as an overboiled cabbage, so I'm guessing that you don't understand what the word "dispute" means. To speak of "disputing" numbers is a bit of a nonsense phrase. One can dispute the veracity of the numbers, or (as in this case) one can dispute the conclusions that you are drawing from them. These conclusions have been quite thoroughly refuted, but you're too busy braying NUMBERS SAY BLACK PEOPLE MEAN TO WHITE PEOPLE to listen.
No, it's that I don't have the time or inclination
By MC Slim JB
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 7:42pm
to explain rudimentary statistical analysis to ignoramuses on the Internet.
Maybe you can find a retiree to give you a primer on it, somebody with a lot of free time and extraordinary patience with the halt and the lame. Me, I have a day job to attend to. Life's too short to be this guy.
What he's here for
By anon
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 11:39am
Actually, I think he's here to give us a grand tour of the logical fallacy universe - with a heaping side order of statistical ignorance.
Porque no los dos?
By Kaz
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 3:37pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OawrlVoQqSs[/youtube]
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Evidence?
By lbb
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 10:08am
And of course you have those numbers to provide, together with references to actual cases. Put up or shut up.
(90,717 /197,870,516)*100,000
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 11:25am
(90,717 /197,870,516)*100,000= 45 per 100k white committed interracial crime
(429,444/42,000,000)*100,000= 1,022 per 100k black committed interracial crime
Yes, and ...
By anon
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 11:31am
You need to go back to the start - this is about HATE crime, not interracial crime.
Those are two very different things.
Don't you have a trump rally to be at, Buzrum?
Get over it.
By 2
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 9:01am
Get over it.
Sure
By anon
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 9:04am
When white people stop acting like entitled pigs and stop selectively attacking minorities while yelling racial epithets.
In the meantime, when white people act like entitled pigs and selectively attack minorities while yelling racial epithets, both Adam and the major news outlets will continue to report that a white person acted like an entitled pig and selectively attacked minorities while yelling racial epithets.
Got that yet?
Entitled pigs? Just say cops.
By anon
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 12:03pm
Entitled pigs? Just say cops. It was already mentioned in the article, idiot! Anyone else you don't like? Asians? MBTA workers? Sad that another anti-cop post already has 7 likes.
This whackjob did not 'selectively attack minorities"
By Jeff F
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 4:38pm
...despite what you (and adam and others) seemed to have inferred from the police report. The original kid from whom the football was taken and who was initially threatened with the hammer - is 15 and white (not sure where the police got 'young child'). The other kids in that first group were about the same age and were mostly white and asian. (yes, I'm the parent of one of them).
I'm not saying this guy isn't harboring lots of violent rage and bigotry, and should be punished for assault et al, but from the first-hand account I heard it seems that he's one of those jackasses who'll say or do whatever he thinks is nastiest to whoever he's focussed on. He brought a damn hammer to the beach, ffs!
More than one football?
By KellyJMF
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 9:19am
Actually the guy took a football from a group of my daughter's friends who are high school students at BLS. According to her, he.asked if he could use the football two of the boys were playing with and they tossed it to him. When they asked for it back, he said "it's mine". He threw the ball some more and another group caught it and gave it back to the boys. She says that's when he pulled out the hammer. Her friends threw the football back to him and decided that was enough beach for the day and left while the fight between hammer guy and the other group of teenagers was getting started.
Cuz
By Sock_Puppet
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 10:30am
Who doesn't always bring a hammer to the beach?
That was my thought too
By KellyJMF
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 10:38am
My daughter said they were pretty much too confused by the turn of events to be particularly scared. I figure anyone who brings a hammer to the beach is looking for a fight more than a football and thought a bunch of 15-16 year olds were easy pickings.
Take a look at his facebook
By DPM
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 12:22pm
Take a look at his facebook as linked here seems like a thug.
This hammer-wielding jackass
By anon
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 12:01pm
This hammer-wielding jackass is an equal opportunity bigot it would seem... not just limited to race, also dislikes cops and children playing on the beach.
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