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Mission Hell
By adamg on Fri, 09/02/2016 - 9:46pm
![Mess on Hillside Street on Mission Hill](https://www.universalhub.com/files/styles/main_image/public/images/2016/mhstuff.jpg?itok=LDV_pPZl)
A disgusted Mission Hill resident filed this report from Hillside Street, shortly before noon:
Just got back from walking my dog in the middle of the street since most of the sidewalks look like this. This trash has been on the sidewalk next to our house since yesterday early evening. Come on City of Boston and Mayor Walsh, you can do better!!! As a nurse who's been living here since the Spring I'm not finding this unsanitary situation amusing... My 1st and last 9/1 on the Hill!
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what do you expect?...
Little Jimmy is done living in Mission Hill and is now ready to move back to the burbs so it's time to leave his crap on the curb. Entitled and transient college/post-college people don't really care about our neighborhoods. This happens every year in Brighton, Mission Hill, Fenway etc. - Should sidewalks blocked should be a mandatory fine for the landlord.
Back to the burbs, or maybe
Back to the burbs, or maybe the state they left before they moved here.
I wonder if the city could be fined under ADA.
The city should be held accountable for making/keeping public accommodations accessible.
If anyone out there with a disability has encountered these monstrosities, it may be worth a consult with the Disability Law Center. http://www.dlc-ma.org
I would also email Disability Commissioner Kristen McCosh
[email protected]
How is the city to blame?
They don't have a policy encouraging this behavior. They ticket properties where the sidewalk is obstructed. They send trash trucks out on the first regardless of whether it is the actual trash day in the affected neighborhoods to clear out the mess. How would the DOJ or any other agency that enforces the ADA be able to resolve this issue?
Yes, no one should be forced to walk on the street because of this nonsense, but in the end it is the property owners who are affecting things, not the city.
That's every garbage day
Sidewalks are impassible every garbage day in the S. End. Not as bad as this, but many people just drop their garbage where it's convenient, blocking sidewalks and ramps. And that's even before the garbage pickers and animals get at it.
Fine the students, the
Fine the students, the landlord has little control over this nonsense.
good luck identifying the
good luck identifying the student.
Landlords have more control than you think
They can get private disposal services to pick up the mess or order up a dumpster.
They can (gasp) actually visit and take responsibility for their properties! Once in a while! Like, when a lease is turning over so they can threaten tenants with losing their deposit if they don't fix their mess?
They can stagger leases so that a whole building isn't turning over in September.
Etc.
Landlords have little
Landlords have little responsibility to deal with the trash of their tenants. Why should landlords be forced to pay for the students nonsense?
You think a deposit will cover this? LOL.
You are wrong
Landlords are property owners and all property owners have a responsibility to keep the premises habitable and safe and to ensure that trash from the property is lawfully disposed of REGARDLESS of whether they live in the unit or are renting it out.
Look it up. Owners are responsible. Period.
Assuming a full month
Assuming a full month security deposit, yea definitely. As long as they can figure out who did it.
The fines for "Trash out not at trash day" are less than a month's rent in mission hill. ~250ish I think.
Landlord?
Why should the landlord be fined. How does he/she stop this?
Yknow
As someone who spent years of actual adulthood living in Allston-Brighton, I find the 9/1 debacle perplexing.
Every year, the entire city moves on the same day. Which means every year, everyone is throwing out an entire years worth of crap that didn't fit into a U-Haul. Rather than coming up with some solutions involving dumpsters, or extra trash pickups, or anything at all, everyone sits on their butt, taking pictures, calling names and placing blame over the fact that more trash is generated on 9/1 than any other day of the year.
Boston is a city full of smart people. There should be a better solution than "don't throw stuff out once the can is full."
I thought the
city was doing extra trash pickups during the September 1st moving period. Is it insufficient or does it not happen at all?
Fenwy
The have been regularly (by that I mean daily) going through my road picking stuff up (Symphony) .
It really sucks though and I wish more working people/families and non students lived on my road.
Students are the primary
Students are the primary reason Boston thrives as a little city. Without students you lose millions of dollars of profits for many sectors in the city not just education. So I'd rethink all the hassle this period brings to you since the city is what it is because of the influx of students every year.
Why are landlords returning
Why are landlords returning security deposits if there is residual personal property left in the apartments ? The City should go after the security deposits somehow .
A security deposit is
A security deposit is basically useless in that scenario.
A tenant-representing attorney's advice to landlords:
Leaving furniture in the apartment probably doesn't qualify as damage for that statute (and it's a pretty substantial gamble for any landlord who wants to try). Meanwhile, the 30 day return requirement makes it difficult for the city to go after the security deposits. (They'd have thirty days to find out the names of the tenants, sue them, and obtain a judgement freezing the security deposit; meanwhile if the landlord gave the security deposit back in the interim, good luck suing the student tenant).
Relax
It's been one day....maybe garbage day is on Tuesday.
I live in southie and see the
I live in southie and see the same crap down by Andrew square with, wait for it, State Street Bros (SSB).
I was watering my tomatoes yesterday on my back deck and I heard a commotion. The two SSB that live next door on the second floor of a triple decker were defenestrating a couch onto the street, both drinking out of Solo cups. It went flying through the air and when it hit the pavement, wood shards exploded into the air and became projectiles. Before you laugh and say I sound like an old man, consider this: they struck several cars with enough force that the car alarms went off. It's fun to think about my neighbors kids that play on the sidewalk. I could hear them cracking up inside. These were not college students; they were employed adults. MILLENNIALS!
edit: I know they work for State Street because I met them when they moved in.
So what's happening with the
So what's happening with the cars then? Are they paying the bills? Hopefully they are not scratched.
One car was scratched - I saw
One car was scratched - I saw it when I walked by with my dog. I have no idea who the owner is of the car. They came down to take the couch fragments out of the street (shockingly) but didn't even look at the alarming cars. I really doubt they will be paying anyone for damages
Did you call the police?
I would have called the cops.
Fenway looks the same. 2
Fenway looks the same. 2 calls to 311. The city does not do anything.
Actually...
"The city won't do anything"? Really?
I bet the city will pick up most, if not all of the trash from the sidewalk. They can't get to everything at one time.
The city ain't perfect and we should be able to figure out a better way to manage Labor day moves, but DPW and 311 do a pretty decent job of keeping up.
Actually...
"The city won't do anything"? Really?
I bet the city will pick up most, if not all of the trash from the sidewalk. They can't get to everything at one time.
The city ain't perfect and we should be able to figure out a better way to manage Labor day moves, but DPW and 311 do a pretty decent job of keeping up.
City Doesn't Care
The city cares little for the Mission Hill neighborhood. They figure that it's a transient community that they don't really have to keep happy. They cut the fire chief out of that neighborhood which in addition to Mission Hill and Roxbury also includes the Longwood Hospital area. The only concern is how much money they can squeeze out of Wentworth and Northeastern.
Please explain
What does that mean?
Explaining
There used to be a fire chief assigned to the Longwood hospital area and the Mission Hill neighborhood. They removed that fire chief. I don't know if they relocated it or did away with that job, but there is no longer a fire chief for that neighborhood. I think they have to wait for the chief to come from Center St. or somewhere in Dorchester if they have a fire here.
Northeastern
Northeastern pays about 10 percent of what is asked from them, which is about 4% of what they should pay. And it still complains. For years NUpaid $37,500 (not a typo) to the city in voluntary taxes. Only recently have they stepped it up. Showa Institute, which few have heard of, for decades has paid more than NU.
And Showa's buildings are....
... set far off from any street and it has no students other than those living in its dorms on the campus. And the students are all exceptionally well-behaved young women. I can't imagine that Showa imposes much cost on the city of Boston (and it creates a corps of life-long Boston boosters who then return to Japan after a semester or two).
Trash of the Titans
Thank god Mission Hill has a nurse to think of the children!
How about all you disgruntled
How about all you disgruntled citizens shut the f up!!!! The sense of entitlement some of you people have is outrageous! These complaints make me sick to my stomach!!! Guess what-you wanted to live in these college neighborhoods! If you dont like it, move to a different neighborhood! GOD
It is entitlement to not want
It is entitlement to not want trash lining your neighborhood because sh**head college students cannot be bothered to deal with their crap?
Hellfire
How about I develop a warhead guidance package that hones in on the words "Dude" and "Bro". You can live here, but only if you accept the risk of having your UHaul Predator'd.
"College neighborhoods" that
"College neighborhoods" that's funny.
Sense of entitlement? You mean like being able walk down a sidewalk? I can't imagine what it would be like with a baby carriage or any assistive devices.
I was walking through Mission Hill yesterday, trash piles everywhere. Not one bit of effort into consolidating trash, packing it up or God forbid using a trash bag. The word entitlement describes the careless, sloppy transients, not Bostonians.
is this post
even real lol
i dont really see how it can be
This happens every year
It's a college kid neighborhood. But now that this person decided to move there, things must be changed! I hate moving into a new neighborhood and realizing it doesn't revolve around me.
i hate being in a wheelchair
and finding out theres no access to where i live
although this issue is far from localized to college neighborhoods. trash day is a nightmare for anybody that has mobility or sight issues.
People wonder why "Nimby's"
People wonder why "Nimby's" complain when developers propose housing that will accommodate college students.
Well ...
I actually DO wonder why the hell people in these same neighborhoods fought fought and fought some more when BU wanted to build enough dorms to house all their students.
Oh, you don't mean THAT sort of NIMBYism, right?
Bed.Made.Lie.
Um
BU students don't live in Mission Hill. They tend to settle in over in Allston, Brighton, the Fenway, and even Brookline, but only in Mission Hill if they have friends going to one of the colleges over that way.
Thanks for playing, though.
BU '93!
Friend
Things have changed since your glory days.
Tuition is over $70k. BU students live in the places you mention only if they have a trust fund - and many do.
What about the GAP?
From what we've seen on this past Thursday, BU students are still in Allston.
The Brookline thing is new for me. Do you know the high rise down Pleasant Street? I park my car there (shhhh) when I go to games. I've been seeing more college kids around there. Rich kids, to be sure, but easily there are more BU kids in Brookline than on Mission Hill.
No, I'm talking about the
No, I'm talking about the developers who come to a neighborhood and try to turn a duplex into a 6 unit building.
Careless, for sure
I've lived in Mission Hill and in Brighton, both in student areas. I also have moved to different locations in the city more than 5 times. I've never left behind so much trash as I see coming from one household. You generally know when your lease is up, so you have time to donate to Goodwill/Boomerangs etc any unwanted items and go through your stuff little by little. It looks to me like theres no prep involved in their moving and so they just leave behind what doesn't fit or as a last minute decision. This is pure carelessness, too bad the Colleges can't teach common sense.