Everyone in the country has mass produced factory ice cream.
Talking about the proliferation of made-in-place stuff that goes way back ... from the more urban "hippy" era places like Toscaninis to the farmstand places that opened a hundred years ago.
If you ever lived anywhere else, you'd know that pretty much each town having at least one ice cream place is a unique feature of the area.
Tosc. founded in 1981. No more . Hendries , Bryers ,Seymours , Brighams , Hood , to name a few manufacturers . Thats a whole lot of ice cream not being made. Still have Richardson's and Peaceful Meadows but they are peanuts in comparison.
Before my son headed back to UMass, he insisted on dinner at Mary Chung and a stop at Tosci's.
Seems to be going strong. Microsundaes rock!
Hot tip: want to know where the ice cream is? Ask a cyclist! Amazing stuff available pretty much everywhere. Great Brook Farm, Rancatore's (brother to Tosci's), Dairy Joy, Kimball Farm, Socs, Bedford Farms, New City Micro Creamery, Rota Springs, White Farms, Haley's, Gram's, Beach Plum, Benson's, many many many more!
I would challenge you to go more than 10 or 15 miles on a bike anywhere within 100 miles of Boston and not find ice cream!
This density and distribution of independent, locally-owned and amazing ice cream places is unique to New England.
As for the manufactured ice cream, what difference does it make whether it is local or not?
Had the factories modernized instead of closing, those jobs would have been automated. Food handling work is much more automated than it used to be.
The dairy coop that many of my cousins, aunts, and uncles have worked for has maintained steady employment, but only because it diversified its product line and opening new factories and expanding its main facilities. Most of the jobs that my older relatives did no longer exist due to automation.
Also Herrell's - though the one in Northampton is still going strong though (that's Western Mass, which might as well be another universe to most Bostonians).
They probably have just mentioned Ben & Jerry's or some other of-a-slightly-higher-standard-than-most-supermarket-but-hardly-excellent brand of New England produced ice cream.
"Boston’s best-known TV drama,"... This is where I stopped reading and returned to the conclusion that the NY Times knows nothing about Boston or New England. And apparently nothing about great TV comedy, too.
Yeah, the corporate face of the current generation is a git, but I really couldn't find a better place to send a friend who just moved from Texas to New Hampshire for a good range of suitable winter clothing.
I have always thought the most definitive thing about New England is the amount of beautiful women, as in a glaring lack thereof.
Let's say you are outside a nightclub in Tulsa, OK. Some guys walk out and you overhear them say "Ugh, that was so New England in there". You should take the time to ask them what kind of New England. If they say Wellesley College, then do not bother going in. If they say Burlington, VT, then be prepared to drink a lot to make things tolerable.
He didn't actually say he hates living here, you extrapolated that. Besides, he mentioned freaking suburban Wellesley and Burlington, VT, not even close to Boston. Why get so defensive? I thought his jab was rather humorous, regardless of whether I agree with it or not.
Mind-blowing pizza is another New Englandy thing. And I agree about ice cream.
NY and other places can argue that they have all three of those but, thanks to our higher-education thing — definitely another top New Englandy trait — we know that theirs never measure up, but they can't understand our reasoning.
Coastal N.E., where I mostly grew up; in no particular order:
fried clams
Anything fish in general
Submarine sandwiches
Franks (hot dogs) and beans (in my family we had the canned brown bread to go with it)
Anything Irish, Italian, Polish, or Portuguese (in small town and rural New England add French Canadian)
Coffee...anything coffee
Cranberries ... anything cranberries
Blueberries ... anything blueberries
Hatred for NYC sports teams (except parts of CT)
Hatred for Montreal Canadiens (hockey team ... if you have to ask...etc., etc.)
No lobster
No New England clam chowder
No wild blue berries, picked yourself
No wild strawberries, picked yourself
No Trailing Arbutus (Mayflowers)
No maple sapping or sugar maple trees
No candlepin bowling
Nothing about the Cape or the Atlantic ocean
No steamed mussels
No whoopie pies.
The list continues endlessly. That said, here are my results. I'm at least a three to five generation New Englander. Disclaimer: Team sports bore me to tears. Sue me.
These are your picks:
#1. Stephen King
#2. Fried Clams
#3. Old North Church/Paul Revere
#4. Dunkin’ Donuts
#5. Higher Ed
You have some cultural perspective about a region that can trace its roots to 1620. Surely, the Patriots aren’t one of the top five New England institutions.
What’s more important: A football team or our long-standing traditions? A touchdown or good locally-produced food? Historical roots or a fifth Super Bowl victory? Don’t ask any of these questions if you’re at a Super Bowl party Sunday and the Patriots are leading in the fourth quarter.
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They don't have ice cream
We eat more of it than anybody anyplace else on earth!
How could they not have ice cream?
Maybe because most of the ice
Maybe because most of the ice cream plants are closed,
Not that kind of ice cream
Everyone in the country has mass produced factory ice cream.
Talking about the proliferation of made-in-place stuff that goes way back ... from the more urban "hippy" era places like Toscaninis to the farmstand places that opened a hundred years ago.
If you ever lived anywhere else, you'd know that pretty much each town having at least one ice cream place is a unique feature of the area.
Hell of a lot more common than fried clams!
Tosc. founded in 1981. No
Tosc. founded in 1981. No more . Hendries , Bryers ,Seymours , Brighams , Hood , to name a few manufacturers . Thats a whole lot of ice cream not being made. Still have Richardson's and Peaceful Meadows but they are peanuts in comparison.
JP Licks
Granted, you can't buy their stuff in supermarkets, but, hey, they still make ice cream.
Tosci's is still there
Before my son headed back to UMass, he insisted on dinner at Mary Chung and a stop at Tosci's.
Seems to be going strong. Microsundaes rock!
Hot tip: want to know where the ice cream is? Ask a cyclist! Amazing stuff available pretty much everywhere. Great Brook Farm, Rancatore's (brother to Tosci's), Dairy Joy, Kimball Farm, Socs, Bedford Farms, New City Micro Creamery, Rota Springs, White Farms, Haley's, Gram's, Beach Plum, Benson's, many many many more!
I would challenge you to go more than 10 or 15 miles on a bike anywhere within 100 miles of Boston and not find ice cream!
This density and distribution of independent, locally-owned and amazing ice cream places is unique to New England.
As for the manufactured ice cream, what difference does it make whether it is local or not?
What difference? People got
What difference? People got to work ,dont they?Lots of jobs lost there.
They would be lost to automation anyway
Had the factories modernized instead of closing, those jobs would have been automated. Food handling work is much more automated than it used to be.
The dairy coop that many of my cousins, aunts, and uncles have worked for has maintained steady employment, but only because it diversified its product line and opening new factories and expanding its main facilities. Most of the jobs that my older relatives did no longer exist due to automation.
Small local places employ a lot more people.
Guess its no big deal if its
Guess its no big deal if its not your job, just more statistical fodder .
Most times it's a big deal when somebody loses a job
But, I'm sorry, where is this huge mass of unemployed ice-cream factory workers unable to find employment elsewhere?
Also Herrell's - though the
Also Herrell's - though the one in Northampton is still going strong though (that's Western Mass, which might as well be another universe to most Bostonians).
Let's not forget Puritan Ice Cream in Roslindale
Home of the three-gallon tub.
Even if they did..
They probably have just mentioned Ben & Jerry's or some other of-a-slightly-higher-standard-than-most-supermarket-but-hardly-excellent brand of New England produced ice cream.
"Cheers"
"Boston’s best-known TV drama,"... This is where I stopped reading and returned to the conclusion that the NY Times knows nothing about Boston or New England. And apparently nothing about great TV comedy, too.
those options are embarassing
It's either Higher Education, Old North Church/Paul Revere, Boston Marathon or Stephen King...the rest of the options are embarrassing.
LL Bean is in there, too
Yeah, the corporate face of the current generation is a git, but I really couldn't find a better place to send a friend who just moved from Texas to New Hampshire for a good range of suitable winter clothing.
Can't believe there's no
Can't believe there's no mention of the beach or ocean.
I have always thought the
I have always thought the most definitive thing about New England is the amount of beautiful women, as in a glaring lack thereof.
Let's say you are outside a nightclub in Tulsa, OK. Some guys walk out and you overhear them say "Ugh, that was so New England in there". You should take the time to ask them what kind of New England. If they say Wellesley College, then do not bother going in. If they say Burlington, VT, then be prepared to drink a lot to make things tolerable.
Okay
Perhaps you should explain why you live here and not Tulsa, OK if you hate the place so much?
Or are you just concerned about getting shot in their night clubs?
He didn't actually say he
He didn't actually say he hates living here, you extrapolated that. Besides, he mentioned freaking suburban Wellesley and Burlington, VT, not even close to Boston. Why get so defensive? I thought his jab was rather humorous, regardless of whether I agree with it or not.
Cowtown, please.
The only place Tulsa can throw shade and have it land is Lubbock.
None of the above.
What wer'e best known for is our enjoyment of tossing a big fat arthritis-gnarled nicotine-stained bird at the City.
Poll
"Boston Strong" should be #1
Fall
Autumn is THE New Englandiest thing.
Mind-blowing pizza is another New Englandy thing. And I agree about ice cream.
NY and other places can argue that they have all three of those but, thanks to our higher-education thing — definitely another top New Englandy trait — we know that theirs never measure up, but they can't understand our reasoning.
The word
wicked
And then there's...
Candlepin bowling
The RIGHT Kind of Bowling
And if you don't know what it is, I got your Larry Bird right here.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
There is no one New England 'culture' let alone accent
Coastal N.E., where I mostly grew up; in no particular order:
fried clams
Anything fish in general
Submarine sandwiches
Franks (hot dogs) and beans (in my family we had the canned brown bread to go with it)
Anything Irish, Italian, Polish, or Portuguese (in small town and rural New England add French Canadian)
Coffee...anything coffee
Cranberries ... anything cranberries
Blueberries ... anything blueberries
Hatred for NYC sports teams (except parts of CT)
Hatred for Montreal Canadiens (hockey team ... if you have to ask...etc., etc.)
Sportsball. Is it better than other things?
Yes.
Tried the silly quiz just for the helluva it
Even though it's defective. There's
No lobster
No New England clam chowder
No wild blue berries, picked yourself
No wild strawberries, picked yourself
No Trailing Arbutus (Mayflowers)
No maple sapping or sugar maple trees
No candlepin bowling
Nothing about the Cape or the Atlantic ocean
No steamed mussels
No whoopie pies.
The list continues endlessly. That said, here are my results. I'm at least a three to five generation New Englander. Disclaimer: Team sports bore me to tears. Sue me.