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Man charged with raping teen on cruise ship out of Boston
By adamg on Thu, 08/31/2017 - 9:53am
A Mississippi man is charged with raping a 15-year-old boy who had had too much to drink on the Norwegian Dawn cruise liner after it had arrived in Bermuda from Boston earlier this month.
Adam Christopher Boyd, 30, of Bay Springs, Miss. is currently being held in a Bermudian jail, awaiting extradition to Boston for arraignment in US District Court on a federal charge of sexual abuse of a minor for the incident, which allegedly happened early on Aug. 14, three days after the ship left Boston, the US Attorney's office reports. The charge carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison.
The FBI agent who investigated the incident writes in an affidavit that Boyd took advantage of the fact the boy was drunk around 2:45 on the morning on Aug. 14 to have anal sex with him:
Minor A reported that he asked BOYD what he was doing, but otherwise was too drunk and froze, not knowing what to say or do.
According to the affidavit, the boy was walking on one of the ship's decks, when he ran into a group of people, some of whom he had met earlier, and Boyd, whom he did not know. The boy told investigators he told Boyd he was 15.
According to Minor A, at some point, Minor A asked if someone in the group could assist him back to his room on the ship. BOYD volunteered to escort him, and, because Minor A expressed concern about his father seeing him intoxicated, BOYD offered to let him stay in his room. Minor A declined.
The two instead wandered the ship's decks for awhile before the alleged rape in "a secluded area on the 14th deck."
Innocent, etc.
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Rape is one of the most heinous crimes
Period. That said, highly doubt I'd just freeze up and not know what to say if some guy was trying to take my man hood like that. And no I'm not victim blaming, or saying he's lying or anything of the sort. Just saying that's pretty hard to believe. Now if you were so drunk (btw why did a 15 year old have to much to drink?) that you were basically incapacitated, then that would make total sense. Perhaps there's some details being left out of this story.
Nahh, I could see that happening
This kid is drunk and scared that his dad is going to find out. It's late. The rapist is offering to help, so he is now somewhat trusted, although not enough for the victim to go to his room. It probably happened fast....he was afraid to call out....and then it was over.
I'm not victim blaming. but...
This is like pointing a shotgun at a bank teller, and saying "I'm not robbing a bank, but give me all your money."
Decades ago, a cop and
Decades ago, a cop and prosecutor came to our high school to give a talk. On the topic of sexual assault, the prosecutor explicitly said that for them to pursue "rape" there needs to be bruising, broken bones, etc. The standard today is very different.
No it isn't.
I'm not blaming the victim, I'm wondering if all the facts came out. Big difference. I would assume the kid was super drunk and not really in control of his faculties if it went down that way. You were 15 before right Sam? Can you imagine a scenario where you were drunk, but not passed out, and some guy tried to rape you and you just sat their frozen? I'd much rather my father know I was drinking then to get my manhood taken like that.
Whelp
You're officially a victim-blamer. The judge and jury of Uhub have decided. No take backs.
I was raped and I didn't cry
I was raped and I didn't cry out. I was still raped. Sorry but what you think about rape is wrong.
As soon as you say...
I'm not victim blaming, you are officially victim blaming...
Actually you can stop there.
Actually you can stop there. What I mean is victim blaming is a natural human impulse. These thought cross everyone's mind. A mature caring human says "I'm not victim blaming" and stops right there.
I'm not victim blaming
and you probably have never been raped so what you think is hard to believe is irrelevant. If you have not lived it, you do not know how you will react in a situation where you're a victim.
Thankfully I have not
But I can be 100% sure I wouldn't just freeze up if some guy was trying to rape me. Does that mean I could fully stop a bigger stronger man? Of course not. But I damn sure would fight back so long as I could.
Monday morning quarterbacking
Monday morning quarterbacking is so awesome isn't it? You were never in that situation at 15 so you don't know how you'd react at 15. While drunk. And an adult is taking advantage of you. Maybe the kid was scared? Maybe he was shocked it was happening? We don't know because it didn't happen to us at 15. Or ever for most of us.
100% sure
That's nice, but that is what happened to the victim. You are not the victim, you do not know the victim, and you really have no right to say just because you are 100% sure you not would freeze that everyone else should not freeze. They brought charges, that means they have evidence. How about you retract and say
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes. period. I hope the victim finds healing and support.
Hello, Humpty Dumpty!
If by "sure" you mean "know what would happen in a situation where I have no knowledge and no experience", then you bet, you're 100% sure. I bet you're also 100% sure what the weather will be on January 1st 2018 too.
Seeing as how I know myself
Seeing as how I know myself pretty well, I have a very strong idea of how I'll react in most situations.
I know myself
I have fended off attackers.
I have beaten up a would-be rapist and caused him serious physical damage.
I know that such successful self-defense and automatic violence does not happen for other people. Even people who think that they would defend themselves in such an intense way do not do so.
I don't expect others to do as I did, even though I did it.
I am also older and of the age group that was specifically advised to not fight back and get killed (and then would have our lack of resistance used against us in court).
A lot of people think that
A lot of people think that they know how they'll react in situations that they've never experienced. A good way to tell if they're right or not is to look at what they think of the situation and how closely it conforms to reality. The closer they are to imagining the situation -- in this case, being raped -- as how it really is, the more likely they are to be correct about how they would react. I think you've demonstrated that you don't really have this understanding about rape.
You can't just say "I'm not
You can't just say "I'm not victim blaming" and then proceed to victim blame. You also need to learn how to spell.
Yer wha?
I'm trying to read this as anything but homophobic, but failing. Please spell it out for me with reasonable completeness in a way that doesn't make it sound like you're slurring gay men.
There's nothing wrong with being gay
But as a straight man I would absolutely feel totally violated and as though a piece of my manhood has been taken if I was anally raped by a man. I don't think that's homophobic. For the record I would feel as if a part of my manhood was taking if I let some guy slap me in front my significant other and did nothing about it. Seeing as how homophobic means having an extreme aversion to homophobic people, I don't think what I'm saying qualifies as that. You have a right to love whomever you want and do whatever you want with that person. And I have a right to choose what's right for me. Doesn't mean I'm judging anyone else.
Where to begin
And your "manhood" would feel intact if you were anally raped by a woman with a dildo? Or a broomstick?
Whether you're homophobic or not, I think you're deeply, damagingly confused about what "manhood" is.
No it wouldn't, but that's
No it wouldn't, but that's not what we were talking about here.
And no, I'm not confused. Chances are it means different things to different people.
"Manhood"
Indeed, you seem to be using "manhood" to mean "humanity".
"...man is defined as a human being and woman is defined as a female. Whenever she tries to behave as a human being she is accused of trying to emulate the male..."
Simone de Beauvoir
So, imagine you were "anally raped by a man". It's damaged or destroyed your "manhood". What next? Are you no longer a "man"? Are you no longer a human being?
Yes I would feel like a piece
Yes I would feel like a piece of my manhood was taking. I'm a man, and I'm a human, but I may be damaged after that. Certainly we can all understand the trauma that can and most likely does come from being raped.
I think WE understand
and I think WE have compassion and understand why this can happen to someone who was a "man" before and is still a "man" now.
I really hope you're never raped, but bad things will happen to you in your life. You may want to reexamine your concept of what you think makes you a "man", because it's likely to take a beating at some point. Trauma happens; it does not make you less human or less of a "man".
Wow dude
I'm not victim blaming, honestly! So here's why I think the victim is to blame.
Reading comprehension and context
The rest of my comment explained my thinking. I didn't hold him responsible for what happened, which is the definition of victim blaming. What I said was we probably didn't hear all the facts because as the story read, it didn't sound plausible. Again, I find it hard to believe that a young man found himself in that position and simply froze up. Now if 'had to much to drink' is a euphemism for pissy drunk and not in control of his faculties, then the story as stated makes more sense.
Thinking? You mean mental gymnastics
You keep saying you don't believe the whole story but you also affirm that you believe the child isn't lying. So which is it?
Its just really sick that you feel the need to cast doubt on what happened to this child in a vain attempt to what? Defend the alleged rapist? What are you trying to gain here?
You keep having to explain your thinking to everyone here, maybe stop and wonder if you're just an asshole.
Huh?
Seeing as how we didn't hear from the kid, nor were any quotes attributed to the kid, how am I saying I don't think the kid is lying? I believe we didn't hear the entire story. Just because the article said the kid had to much to drink (which can mean anything) doesn't mean the kid didn't tell the police that he was shh-faced drunk. 'To much to drink' can mean anything from a hangover to passed out vomiting on yourself.
I'm not casting doubt on the kid, I'm casting doubt on the story as reported. Why would I defend a rapist? What sense does that possibly make? But let me guess, you've never known the media to miss-report a story or not provide all the facts right?
Me an asshole? That would be new to me. I never thought of anyone here as thinking of me as an asshole either. What I do think is some people don't fully comprehend what they are reading, especially if it goes against whatever the popular narrative should be.
You're right, there's only one side of the story here
The guy will get his day in court, and, yes, he is innocent until proven guilty.
In the meantime, if you think I've misreported the allegations against him, well, you can compare what I wrote to the affidavit used to bring the charge against him - it's linked at the bottom of my account.
OH MY GOD
Why does it seem like one of the first few people to comment on every rape article on this site blames the victim while saying they aren't blaming the victim?!
"Just saying that's pretty hard to believe." ....are you saying the kid wanted it???
Jesus.
Lol
I mentioned it for that very reason, uhub commenters are quick to think everyone who makes a critical statement is victim blaming. Excuse me for trying to get ahead of the narrative. The funny thing is everyone is focusing on the victim blaming part and totally ignoring the point of my comment.
Again, to be clear, I think we simply didn't get all the information, which is pretty much par for the course when it comes to news reporting. I haven't changed my initial point. a 15 year old kid is most likely a 10th grader. Do we think a sophomore in high school is going to be raped and just freeze up and get caught like a deer in the headlights? Maybe some people think that is the case, I don't. Maybe I'm wrong as I've never been raped. But I know I would, and I would hope anyone who found themselves in the scenario, would've fought back as much as they could, be it boy or girl.
Really, dude?
A) How do you know he didn't fight back? Do you know how big he is?
B) The next time you are going to question the veracity of a rape victim's story, just repeat your own words in your head three times: "Maybe I'm wrong as I've never been raped." ...and back away from your keyboard.
Because Adam said the kid froze
Froze doesn't sound like fought back to me. But AGAIN, my point was this whole time that it didn't seem like the full story. Maybe the kid did fight back, and it simply wasn't reported that way.
I've never said the kid lied, the kid wanted it, or the kid was to blame. I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone keeps glossing over that.
mmmm... I get it. Maybe when people hear me say 'doesn't sound like the full story' they think I'm referring to the kid and what he reported to the police. That is NOT what I'm saying. I am saying the article written above (no slight to Adam) doesn't sound like the full story. Those are two different things.
Okay, except that rape
Okay, except that rape victims freezing/appearing silently compliant is a common reaction. And what if the kid came up to you right now and said "Hey, I did freeze. I didn't scream or fight back." Would you then backpedal on your "must be more to the story"? Do you realize how damaging this is to victims? How hard it is to report already, without people insisting they prove they tried to stop it?
Is it?
I've honestly never heard that before outside of little children who were raped by a family member or friend who doesn't want to get them in trouble. I've heard of stories like that before. But I honestly have never heard of a scenario like this. Of course that doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but I would assume most 15 year olds would scream or kick or fight back if possible. Maybe it wasn't possible and that just wasn't elaborated on in the report.
No I wouldn't back pedal, I would ask him why not, if we're going to have the conversation. How damaging what is to rape victims? The kid apparently and rightfully had no qualms with reporting the rape. My assumption isn't that a person has to prove they tried to stop it, my assumption is most people who find themselves in that position would naturally try to stop it. That just seems like common sense, outside of a few scenarios, some of which I mentioned in the previous paragraph.
I get it, non-PC views, even when they aren't that inflammatory get people worked up, especially here on Uhub. But I fail to see the issue with what I've been saying this whole time. All I've said, form the beginning, is it doesn't sound like we got the whole story. I've never once said the kid was responsible nor that the rapist was anything other than what he is, a rapist.
If it truly doesn't matter if
If it truly doesn't matter if the kid fought back or not, if any rape victim fights back, why ask the question? It's playing devil's advocate and it's unnecessary.
If you really can't see why questioning rape victims on how much they tried to resist their attacker (or how drunk they were, to return to your earlier post) and care to keep an open mind on the subject, I encourage you to do some reading on the dynamics of rape and the treatment of victims in the courtroom and in society. Because your assumptions and anecdotes aren't doing anyone any good.
I would encourage you to develop some reading comprehension
skills.
If you really can't understand the difference between questioning an article, and questioning a rape victim, I don't know what to tell you. Please show me where I said it doesn't matter if they fight back. I said I would assume anyone who could, would fight back. Period. And then I said 'to much to drink' can mean any number of things, and that the article didn't elaborate on that point. And to be clear I haven't edited anything I've written in this post.
We're not talking about all rape victims, where talking about this one particular story.
I would encourage you to develop some reading comprehension
skills.
If you really can't understand the difference between questioning an article, and questioning a rape victim, I don't know what to tell you. Please show me where I said it doesn't matter if they fight back. I said I would assume anyone who could, would fight back. Period. And then I said 'to much to drink' can mean any number of things, and that the article didn't elaborate on that point. And to be clear I haven't edited anything I've written in this post.
We're not talking about all rape victims, where talking about this one particular story.
I would encourage you to develop some reading comprehension
skills.
If you really can't understand the difference between questioning an article, and questioning a rape victim, I don't know what to tell you. Please show me where I said it doesn't matter if they fight back. I said I would assume anyone who could, would fight back. Period. And then I said 'to much to drink' can mean any number of things, and that the article didn't elaborate on that point. And to be clear I haven't edited anything I've written in this post.
We're not talking about all rape victims, where talking about this one particular story.
Yes. It is.
The idea is to "get through this and not get too badly hurt/killed".
Duh.
Go back to your lovely little safety bubble. Care to share any more tips for things you know nothing about?
Just to repeat this piece for emphasis
That really does sound like the whole story to me.
Guys
You win, I lose. I'm done with this conversation.
It doesn't look like you're done
In fact you seem unable to stop yourself from repeating the same damn thing over and over.
What if?
You are approaching this from the perspective that this was a forced intercourse. It's still rape of course, the kid wasn't old enough to consent - but it doesn't mean it was violent.
They wandered the decks together for some period of time, before settling on a secluded dark area on the 14th deck.
Somebody who is wary of being attacked, doesn't do that. I suspect they were flirting, and possibly went to the 14th deck to make out & possibly some 'other stuff', which then got carried away.
I don't think the kid was worried about his 'manhood'.
I worry about whether protection was used, because the gestation period to get a conclusive negative test is 3 months. That would be horrible for a 15 y.o. to go through.
Here's a data point for you, Scauma
I was 19 years old when I was sexually assaulted. Four years more 'mature' than this poor kid.
I had not been drinking when it happened.
Guess what?
I froze.
I hate like hell now that I froze. But I did.
Please know that this is a thing that happens.
This kid deserves empathy and kindness. He's been traumatized.
I was 31 and we were both
I was 31 and we were both staying with a friend for the weekend. I was going out to get coffee. He suggested I sit down on the couch with him for a moment.
I froze. And it's taken me years to stop blaming myself for it so yeah, assholes like you, Scauma, cause real damage with your sealion bullshit.
Age of Consent
15 is below the age of consent. This is rape.
It is either statutory rape or forcible rape - but it is still rape.
Rape.
Swirl
Did I ever say the kid wasn't raped? I did not. Thank you.
Why do you think that she was talking to you?
Seems like a reminder to me. It wasn't in reply to you.
In any case, read your comments. You imply that the kid wasn't raped because he didn't follow your theoretical constructs.
The lizard brain has its own ideas.
When I was 13, I was sexually assaulted (not raped) by other girls (former friends) several times. Each time my emotions (betrayal, shock) and the presence of 3 or 4 girls rendered me unable to do anything but try to fend them off. I've had similar reactions when I've slipped and fallen or gotten into an accident; my mind did not comprehend what was happening for several seconds.
In my fantasy world, when I think of the possibility of being attacked, I'm grabbing a weapon, anything, and making waste of my attackers. In real life, I know that it's all too easy to freeze. I think that going still when you're attacked may be a protective mechanism.
Trying to fend them off
Is not freezing up. Trying to fend them off is what I would expect from anyone. So thanks for backing me up on that one.
Oh for heaven's sake!
Weakly covering oneself is an automatic reaction. Believe me, I froze.
the troll always wins
Victim blaming is a sad mental autoimmune response that all humans have, and grown ups stop themselves before its said out loud. Sort of how we stop ourselves from pooping our pants. It is sad that some people lack self awareness to the point of typing it out and posting it online.
So basically, Scauma is either in the corner painting his diaper all over the wall, or he is having a joke on us.
Look at the definition
And tell me where I blamed the victim. I'll wait.
from
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming
omg
Nothing to do with what I was saying. For the 100th, and final time; I WAS QUESTIONING THE REPORTING OF THE STORY, NOT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE KID.
We're talking in circles now because everyone keeps assuming I'm talking about the kid. Since people claim to know my assumptions, what I really think happened is the kid was pissy drunk and not in control of his faculties, therefore couldn't fight back. That to me is different than 'had to much to drink' which granted means drunk too. But I would imagine he was....what's the saying? Two sheets pass the wind or whatever it is. Semantics maybe, but that's my opinion nonetheless and we can all wait for the facts to come out to see what the whole story is.
no one is talking in circles but you.
1. you demand the definition of victim blaming
I post the wikipedia page
2. you demand that i show how your comment was victim blaming
I block quote the excerpt (WITH SCHOLARLY RESEARCH) that explains how every box was ticked off
a. failure to fight
b. loss of masculinity
I'll add the third box
3. You "OMG!"
Uhub
This is actually pretty ridiculous and silly. I'm not an asshole, far from it. That said if you think I am, that's fine. Opinions are like.....assholes, no pun intending.
I'm not, nor have I ever said the kid brought it on himself. When the facts do come out, I would imagine there will be more details that shed light on what happened that night. Adam, I'm not saying you miss-reported what was stated, I read the link before my very first comment. Just that it didn't sound like all the facts. I am genuinely surprised anyone would find themselves in a position of being raped and just freeze up. As I mentioned plenty of times before though, it could be possible. Per the story, the kid was coherent enough to walk around the ship, but to drunk to resist. That may be entirely true, or there could be a part of the story that hasn't come out. That does NOT mean I'm blaming the victim. It means I'm wondering if we heard the full story. That said, feel free to form whatever opinion of me you'd like because it truly does not matter. But ultimately hopefully the rapist ends up where he belongs, jail. And hopefully the kid goes on to have a fruitful and productive life. Now happy Friday to all of you as well.
Empathy
Try it sometime.
It isn't about what YOU THINK you would do.
Chances are you wouldn't do what YOU THINK you would do.
Got it?
Uhub has a comment section so we can comment
For some reason you all still think I'm victim blaming, which is ridiculous.
I'm only defending my comments because I really think there's a lack of comprehension here. I'm not trolling and I'm not pooping in my diaper in a corner.
Everybody, look up the definition of victim blaming, actually I'll do it for you:
Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially responsible for the harm that befell them. The study of victimology seeks to mitigate the perception of victims as responsible. There is a greater tendency to blame victims of rape than victims of robbery in cases where victims and perpetrators know one another.
At no point is anything I said relative to this definition. Once again, all I've said is it doesn't sound like they reported the full story, or in other words, all the details. But if it makes you all feel better, I can do this all day.
Nope, I'm pretty sure I know what I would do
I would suggest you get to know yourself a little better if you can't rationalize how you would react in a particular given situation.
really
Don't you have something better to do than speculate on the rape of a 15 year old? No? Why is the topic so exciting to you, I wonder.
Lol
Wow. F*ck you. Wonder about that because its sounds like your trying to imply something that is grotesque.
With the jawbone of an ass...
How many times are you gonna double down on this absurd position of yours?
Until someone shows me why I'm wrong
So since you seem reasonable, what is the problem with saying it doesn't sound like all the facts came out? Why is saying an article is incomplete saying the victim is to blame? No one has provided one reason for saying I'm victim blaming, other than jumping to conclusions based on preconceived assumptions that people like to blame victims, ie, the comment yesterday about why there is always someone victim blaming? I get the feeling that people came into this comment section expecting there to be victim blaming, then assumed that is what I was doing.
Shows you why you are wrong?
That isn't the problem.
The problem is that you are not LISTENING.
Enough, please
I think you've made your point, and I think other people have made their counter-points. Consider stepping back from the discussion for awhile - at this point, you're just saying the same thing over and over.
Thanks.
Sorry man
But I do feel the need to defend myself since people seem to not be understanding what I'm saying.
It seems to be a kind of shtick
Let's take this gem.
I have to assume this is just a game for you.
If you have to start a
If you have to start a statement with "I'm not X, but...", you might want to rethink what you're about to say, and whether or not you actually are.