A blind New Yorker is suing JP Licks because he claims the chain's Web site makes it impossible for him to look up its store locations, none of which are located anywhere near New York - or even outside Rte. 495.
In his suit, filed last week in US District Court in Boston, Michael Godino says the JP Licks web site violates the federal Americans with Disabilities Act and is seeking to be made lead plaintiff in a class-action suit. In addition to demanding the chain make its Web site fully accessible to the blind, he has asked for damages, penalties and attorney's fees.
Many blind people enjoy using the Internet just as sighted people do. The lack of an accessible website means that blind people are excluded from the rapidly expanding self-service food industry and from independently accessing the Website. ...
By failing to make the Website accessible to blind persons, Defendant is violating basic equal access requirements under federal law.
Godino is represented by a Manhattan lawyer named C.K. Lee, who has filed scores of similar suits in recent years - and who tends to settle before a judge even certifies a "class" in its suits.
In another case involving a different blind New Yorker, Lee brought suit against Five Guys. The burger chain at first contested the allegations, saying Web sites are not places of "public accommodation," such as an actual restaurant:
Title III [the Americans with Disabilities Act], which prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in places of public accommodation, only governs access to the goods and services available at physical facilities. Because Marett has only alleged that she was denied access to a non-physical space, i.e., Five Guys' website, her Complaint fails to state an essential element of her Title III claim – that she was denied the full and equal enjoyment of a place of public accommodation. Even if Five Guys' website is a place of public accommodation, which the Company maintains it is not, Marett does not allege, nor can she, that the website is in violation of any established regulations implementing Title III. No such regulations exist.
But Five Guys settled with Lee and his client before the issue could go to trial.
| Attachment | Size |
|---|---|
 Godino complaint | 410.72 KB |
| Memorandum by Five Guys' attorneys on ADA and Web sites | 269.49 KB |
| Complaint against Five Guys | 245.69 KB |
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Don't most people get
By anon
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 2:05pm
Don't most people get restaurant location/hours from Google nowaday?
Meanwhile
By Kathode
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 2:13pm
web accessibility standards have been around for about 18 years.
Right
By choicest
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 2:21pm
Make your shit accessible. Unless you're doing some bleeding-edge web stuff, it's not that hard.
Exactly.
By anon
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 2:27pm
No sympathy here for JP Licks.
Standards are not laws
By BostonDog
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 2:29pm
JP Licks should make their website compliant but they shouldn't be required to do so. A website isn't a physical location and it's a private business.
I'm in favor of accessibility laws but this is an extortion racket plain and simple.
Nope
By MSC
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 6:37pm
Web dev here, making websites accessible is drilled into us as a basic function. It's not difficult, and not doing so opens the site's operator up to liability (like in this case), and hurts the site's page ranking in Google. It's not going the extra mile, this is Website 101. Whoever was supposed to QC the site failed hard here.
Bad design is not illegal
By BostonDog
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 7:39pm
According to other articles it's unclear if they are in violation of laws as most small companies would rather pay a settlement then pay litigation. (Which is a major problem with the legal system.)
This is what people are
By tofu
Mon, 01/15/2018 - 10:43am
This is what people are missing. "Best practice/design" vs. "required by law"
Another web dev here. If you
By anon
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 7:53pm
Another web dev here. If you're running an ecommerce company, then an accessibility is a by-product of a well made website. If you run a local ice cream shop, then upgrading your website to make it accessible is not that high on the list of priorities.
JP Licks should be angry at
By anon
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 6:57pm
JP Licks should be angry at whoever did their website. This should be baked into the cake.
Serial ADA litigants
By Matt_J
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 2:26pm
Are such a great use of the judicial system. IMO. Next to ambulance chasers. If they really cared they would work with the business to become compliant, rather than going directly for a cash settlement.
Lawyer Scum
By BostonDog
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 2:32pm
Wonder if the person even cares or if some scumbag lawyer asked to use their name in exchange for 20% of settlements.
Not likely
By anon
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 4:35pm
https://nypost.com/2017/10/22/attorney-exploits-th...
Wow, it's even worse
By BostonDog
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 6:17pm
According to that article the blind man only gets $500 per lawsuit.
And yes, it's the same guy
By perruptor
Mon, 01/15/2018 - 6:15am
The article anon linked to is talking about the same C.K. Lee who's suing JP Licks. Doesn't look like the blind guy gets anything like 20%. Scumbag lawyer, you bet.
ADA
By blues_lead
Mon, 01/15/2018 - 7:57pm
The structure of the ADA doesn't create any government enforcement agency or grant an existing enforcement agency power to enforce ADA rules. The enforcement mechanism was meant to be by litigation. That's fine if you don't like that, but direct your ire at the politicians who wrote the law and the ones who haven't changed it, rather than the litigants.
I wonder if he even tried
By Tim Mc.
Sun, 01/14/2018 - 4:29pm
I wonder if he even tried asking them to update their website first, or went straight to lawsuit...
I was able to find all store locations and hours using Lynx
By Ron Newman
Mon, 01/15/2018 - 12:30am
which is a very old text-only browser.
I'd be way more impressed
By Roman
Wed, 01/17/2018 - 5:11pm
if you found the locations using only awk, grep, and nc.
Close enough?
By Tim Mc.
Wed, 02/07/2018 - 8:56pm
Being right is not the point
By greg
Mon, 01/15/2018 - 7:45pm
It really doesn't matter if the JP Licks site is appropriately accessible. The cost of settling is typically much lower than the cost of "winning", which is why so many companies settle. Being right in court is often useless. Tort reform would resolve this issue but there are too many lawyers in politics for that.
Tort reform is a good idea
By bibliotequetress
Wed, 02/07/2018 - 1:40pm
Tort reform is a good idea only if appropriately strong & well enforced government oversight exists. There are too many fatcats donating to politics for that.
"Tort reform" is generally
By Steeve
Wed, 02/07/2018 - 2:01pm
"Tort reform" is generally code for "use these extremely rare cases to say that all torts are meaningless to strip the rights of average people against corporations".
And even in cases that are legit, use PR to influence public discourse about cases, which McDonalds used to great effect in the early 1990s. Their negligence led to an old woman getting third degree burns. Your average Joe, however, will tell you it was a case of someone pouring coffee on themselves to get rich, but in actuality all the plaintiff ever wanted was her medical bills covered (and to have them stop serving their coffee at temperatures that would cause third degree burns), to the tune of about $20,000. McDonalds decided it was only worth $800. The jury, upon actually hearing the actual facts of the case, decided she should be compensated in the millions.
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