John McCain dies from same cancer as Ted Kennedy, almost nine years to the day later

Your comment relegates you to the Fish category of posters - nothing meaningful - a word salad of right winger grievances.

It is always a bit perplexing to me why people go out of their way to take one event (e.g. the death of a US Senator) to drag up pretty much irrelevant history of an unrelated event in a transparent attempt to get others to pay attention to them.

It is obvious you do not know or understand pretty much anything about John McCain. I was never a supporter of his politics and disagreed with his stance on many issues. Yet, it was easy to separate those feeling and recognize his hardships and sacrifices he made in the service to his country.

Unlike yourself, John McCain never dwelled on the mistakes and failings of others in an attempt to score political points. He long ago moved past the conflicting view points of the anti-war sentiments of those against the Vietnam War.

In fact, if you actually understood the dynamics of the times, you would be well aware of how he viewed those that protested. He accepted Fonda’s repeated apologies for her actions when she was in early 20’s. For example, when speaking of Jane Fonda’s actions in Hanoi years later, he clearly stated that while she was not one of his favorite people, she was fully entitled to express her opposition to the war in the fashion that she did. Think about your comments and compare them to McCain…McCain has a dog in the hunt but says let go of the past - you who have done nothing, try to resurrect divisive political thoughts from more than 40 years go. What does that say about you?

John McCain never really signed up to the vitriol of hate for Jane Fonda. He generally considered her to be a minor player in the anti-war movement. It is well documented that he had far greater issues with people like David Ifshin, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and John Kerry.

Ifshin, a campus protest leader who visited North Vietnam in December of 1970 to promote a “People’s Peace Treaty” calling for an end to the war. While he was there, he recorded a speech attacking the US war actions which was later broadcast as propaganda directed at American troops, including POW John McCain.

The short version of the story of their relationship is that Ifshin came to regret giving that speech, and eventually became active in Democratic party politics. He and McCain met in the mid-1980s — at an AIPAC conference and became friends. Ifshin died of cancer in 1996, and McCain delivered a eulogy at his funeral, saying that Ifshin had “always felt passionate about his country,” and “always tried to do justice to others.”

The history of how McCain’s legacy of bridging divides can perhaps be best understood by his efforts to help Clinton, Kerry and Kennedy reconcile with Vietnam. This all occurred despite McCain's own disabling injuries from years of torture in a Hanoi prison, and at a time when the political wounds of that conflict were still raw.

Your comments have nothing to do with recognizing or acknowledging John McCain’s passing. You resort to hateful rhetoric long since discredited. I leave you with a question:

Why is it that guys like you who never served in combat always seem to have such definitive views about military service and who is patriotic or who is not? You speak from the frame-of-reference of someone who knows nothing first-hand - you say things that you read or heard but nothing you offer is based on experience, the lessons one learns from living events real time and the introspection one gets from “walking the walk.”

any warm fuzzies for his politics, but my father-in-law succumbed to the same kind of cancer five years ago, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Treatment for it on the latter phases is a cruel joke, apparently intended only to prolong the suffering while the last pennies are squeezed out of the estate.

A man who violated his marriage vow of not committing adultery while his wife died from cancer? That's rich; Gingrich style.

McCain was at least not a ditto man. He did vote against the GOP's health gut bill. But then did he do that based on his personal experience of the potential devastation of a major health crisis? He also voted for what may amount to the worst law of this century so far: the bill that guts the Federal budget, pours billions more into the hands of oligarchs and now gives the party of the rich a rationalization for cutting or destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. If the part of the plutocrats get away with that action then they will be the party of death; gutting the social and medical care for the elderly will lead to earlier deaths as we age. McCain's hand will be on that one.

Yet Kennedy had his flaws as well. They are enumerated by Ted haters all the time. I cried the entire weekend following his death. I am glad to have been part of the people who passed his coffin to say good bye.

So perhaps our public grief is not for the actual person but for what we saw in the person.

McCain and Kennedy were both the elder statesman for their parties. They both where highly respected, yet controversial figures. The fact the died of the same thing on almost the same date is interesting, even if it doesn't mean anything.

Folks still marvel that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/john-mccain-16133.html

I could cut and paste a bit, but that would detract from it.

someone with so litttle cognitive ability describe himself so well in so few words. You are indeed ripe, Fish. Now fuck on off like you’ve so eloquently quoted someone as describing.

Just imagine if both moms happened to be named "Martha".

Kay.