The image. Via Caroline Holland.
The Dorchester Historical Society is apologizing for a postcard advertising a holiday event that features a graphic of its headquarters building in a snow globe and the slogan: "We're Dreaming of a White Dorchester."
In a series of tweets today, in response to people getting or seeing the postcard, the society says it now realizes why that could be taken the wrong way and that that was never its intent - it was trying to riff off the Bing Crosby Christmas song:
We are very truly sorry about our graphic used for this event. This was an unfortunate oversight on our part and the event photograph has been removed from our social media. We were simply changing the words to the classic Christmas carol and did not think it through properly.
We certainly are not happy with its VERY unintended implications; horrified might not be strong enough of a word.
We are truly horrified as we never want to project that message.
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An honest mistake
By anon
Mon, 11/26/2018 - 10:10pm
That will be blown out of proportion. The Dorchester Historical Society just stepped on the third rail of Boston politics and the society will not survive. Please tell me the society has a diverse membership?
It has tried to diversify but
By Sonicyouth
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 8:28am
It has tried to diversify but basically appeals to older people who are white. It’s not entirely it’s failt I guess but this totally tone deaf card won’t get them any further. Also if this was the south and that card was sent out it would be by the KKK and not some butter fingers DHS
People who see a snow globe and deride
By anon
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 2:35pm
the slogan - an obvious play on White Christmas as racist, then deride the Historical Society as being tone deaf really need to lose that huge chip they have on their shoulder.
Its about trust.
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 1:43pm
Racism is insidious. Most adults have been through sensitivity trainings that basically taught people how to not act racist, without addressing or changing their real thoughts. It is something that seems hidden until something stressful happens and the hate pours out.
I am glad that that the Dorchester Historical Society took this mistake seriously. They need to set themselves apart from the long history of Historical Societies that "innocently" whitewash American and world history. Despite the fact that the first casualty of the American revolution was of African descent, the daughters of the american revolution did not admit African Americans until 1977.
Don Quixote
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 10:43am
sees racist windmills everywhere.
Society would function a lot better if people had a thicker skin instead of turning every slight, real or perceived, into a dramatic re-litigation of the centuries of suffering of my ancestors at the hands of your ancestors. There are a lot more perceived slights than real ones and there are volumes full of documented evidence for what happens when life is governed by grievances. It's all ugly.
Stop being disingenuous
By lbb
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 10:52am
If this had happened ten years ago, it might fly under the radar. Ten years ago, we didn't have nearly as many white people in this country who were completely open about their desire to make America white again. Today, in a country whose President* blows racist dogwhistles every day and has Nazis working in the White House, it's incredibly tone-deaf. Do I think it was an intentional racist statement? No, probably not: you'd have to be incredibly stupid to do such a thing. But telling people to "grow a thicker skin" when your lily-white skin isn't targeted is the mark of a true asshole.
Hey lbb, grow a thicker skin
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 11:09am
Then tell me again how all the Jews Trump has working in the White House are really secret Nazis.
Like I keep saying, if you keep hearing dog whistles everywhere, it might be you who has the problem. "Everyone's crazy except me" is not an argument, and "everyone's a Nazi, especially the Jews and people who work alongside them" is also not an argument for pretty much the same reason.
Is your reading comprehension poor or purposeful?
By cinnamngrl
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 2:46pm
It is about trust. This really could be just a dopey mistake. My point is that is not reasonable for people to trust that. I think your so called thick skin in the problem. We need to talk these things out more. In my work, I have been accused of racism in ways that seemed unreasonable from my point of view. The advice i received from supervisors (of diverse backgrounds) was just do your job the right way and don't worry about it. This is true to some extent but it didn't help people trust me more. It isn't a comfortable conversation, but I am not afraid to have it because I know at least my intentions are moral. I have learned to say that you are entitled to your opinion but it takes time to learn anyone's true motives.
PS. Lotsa racists have "friends" of various diversities. it is a very meaningless argument.
Is yours?
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 3:30pm
Lotsa people will instinctively distrust other people for no reason other than their skin color. These people are called racists. Their psychoses and paranoia is their problem. If someone does that to you and you choose to allow it to become your problem, then that's all fine and dandy but you do not get to make that decision on behalf of anyone other than yourself.
Furthermore, turning a silly lapse in thinking into an existential crisis does not make you a conquering hero, bravely braving the thorny issues of race and class and something else to put in an Atlantic headline. It makes you silly.
PPS. It's not a meaningless argument. If the accusation is made that I hate all people of X background, and then I point you to my friends, family members, or even myself who is of X background, it's a perfectly valid refutation. Calling it a meaningless argument is a smokescreen to save face.
It's not fun to have bullshit called on your bullshit, especially if you've lived your whole life being told that it's ice cream, but you're probably better off finding out it's bullshit sooner rather than later. You can still pretend it's ice cream, of course, but at least you'll be making an informed choice.
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By cinnamngrl
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 1:29pm
.
You aren't paying attention.
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 1:29pm
I made no accusations. I said its about trust. And now you've twisted it around to say that if you are distrust people that are white you are racist.
You can't deny that racism against black people is expressed subversively. You can't deny that this card could be interpreted as a white supremacist sentiment. But apparently you can demand everyone to trust that it was a careless mistake. Trust has to earned, it is not an entitlement. And you can mistrust someone without violating their rights as citizens.
I didn't twist anything. I told you why I disageed with you.
By Roman
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 9:12pm
You can keep asking me if I "deny that racism exists" until you're blue in the face.
I'm not going to bite because even if it weren't a sneaky form of a "have you stopped beating your wife" question, it would still be irrelevant. Here's why it's irrelevant:
The accusation is made that the Dorchester Historical Society really is all hooded up and dreaming of a capital-W White Dorchester.
There is no evidence for this. You present none. You present accusations and presuppositions and demand that they be treated as fact.
Not gonna happen.
Someone somewhere else who's not in the Dorchester Historical Society and is hooded up and pining away for the bad old days is not relevant to the question of what was in the minds of the people who let this slip through.
Here's an analogy. Bret Kavanaugh was accused of presiding over rape parties in high school. No evidence for this was given, but plenty of examples of Harvey Weinstein doing his thing were given to create the impression that "rape culture" is pervasive. Bret Kavanaugh is not Harvey Weinstein. That's pretty simple, but it bears repeating. If person X commits a crime, that has no bearing on whether person Y committed the same crime.
Kavanaugh was accused of sexual assault, not just presiding over
By anon
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 9:49pm
Brett Kavanaugh was accused of sexually assaulting a woman, by the woman. Not just presiding over rape parties. Evidence was given (her testimony), you don't have to believe it, but it is evidence. HIs evidence was to deny and claim he mistakenly used common sex slang incorrectly in his diaries.
I haven't accused the
By cinnamngrl
Thu, 11/29/2018 - 10:42am
I haven't accused the Dorchester Historical Society of racism, I have stated that they are not entitled to the trust of the community. I have pointed out that there is enough evidence to mistrust them. It is not a true history of america to leave out the contributions of the people of color. The first permanent colony of non native people in north america was african. They were brought to the Carolina's by the spanish in 1526. The spanish colony failed but the descendants of slaves that rebelled live there still. Native Americans and African people have fought in every war on North American soil, but you wouldn't know about that from these so called historical societies.
That is twisted. It is not psychotic for people of color to mistrust white people. Pretending that anyone is crazy for recognizing abuse is step 1 in the bully's playbook. No matter how much word salad you spew, that isn't going to work on me.
Nobody formed an opinion about Brett Kavanaugh because of Harvey Weinstein. My personal opinion is that Kavanaugh lied about many things. The important thing he lied about was his history of legal work. When you look at the credible accusations that were made against his sexual conduct these things were wrong but not illegal (or at least there would not be enough evidence to sustain a charge). Had those sexual allegations been officially investigated at the time, he would not have been prevented from being eligible to serve on the supreme court. His choice to lie about this and his legal work are consistent examples of his character. This is why I believe he is not qualified to serve on the supreme court.
Trivializing rape and racism won't make these things disappear.
Why the mistrust?
By Waquiot
Thu, 11/29/2018 - 1:37pm
This is honest curiosity. What's the evidence, other than this greeting card?
Trust is not an entitlement.
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 10:44am
Historical societies are racist. I provided several examples of that. Google it. I don't think we can prove anything about the motives behind this greeting card. The evidence neither condemns the dhs or exonerates them. therefore, it is about trust.
You did not provide examples
By Waquiot
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 11:48am
Except to note that the Daughters of the American Revolution did not admit African Americans until 1977, 41 years ago.
My question is about the Dorchester Historical Society. You answer is blanket, not specific to the organization. Are you going to claim that the Roxbury Historical Society is racist? Was Carter Woodson inherently racist because of his love of history?
if you need help using google then say so.
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 12:13pm
I have not claimed that any single historical society is racist. I have stated that historical societies have racist history, mostly from willful ignorance of actual history. And here is a situation where each of us can decide for themselves whether DHS deserves the benefit of the doubt.
All of these criticisms for my simple truism about trust is making DHS seem more sinister. Why so insecure?
Thanks
By Waquiot
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 2:11pm
I disagree with your answer, but I was honestly curious about where you were coming from. Now I know.
yeah, sure, that's not
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 2:26pm
yeah, sure, that's not passive aggressive at all.
No, no, no
By Waquiot
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 3:59pm
I'm being honest. You answered my question. I didn't come to debate this time. Seriously. And yes, I know you are reading this looking at the tone as being smawmy, but what can I do about that? I'm writing it in an even tone because I'm not trying to be passive aggressive, but tone is something that people read, not what people write.
I guess i am not sure what you disagree with in the post
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 4:54pm
My opinion that historical societies have racist history?
or
My opinion that trust is not an entitlement?
did you read this today by the way?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/11/30/good-...
Nope, not going to do it
By Waquiot
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 10:48pm
I didn't come for an argument. I honestly came for information, which you provided. Rather than go 10 or 12 rounds, let's agree to disagree. You've got Roman to fight with this time.
I am not goading you.
By cinnamngrl
Sun, 12/02/2018 - 2:16pm
I can’t see what fact or opinion that you disagreed with. Several vague statements of disapproval that contribute to your reputation of looking down on everyone but don’t answer the question.
It's personal opinion
By Waquiot
Mon, 12/03/2018 - 9:09am
I could tell you, we could go back and forth again and again, with each post getting worse, not changing either or our opinions.
I just wanted to know where your statement came from. I got it. Again, thanks.
Also, by "your reputation" you meant "what I think of you", right?
Again pretty vague, which as
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 12/03/2018 - 11:36am
Again pretty vague, which as close as you get to admitting you are wrong. And I guess you can pretend that its only me, but I just have a very direct style. It also fits in with the fact that you hear what you want to.
Wrong?
By Waquiot
Mon, 12/03/2018 - 1:29pm
I didn't state a position, which means I cannot be wrong.
I do believe that someone like to argue when no argument is needed. Which means I will leave you to have the last word, which, if history shows us anything, will be rather odd.
Exactly as I said. No real
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 12/05/2018 - 8:21pm
Exactly as I said. No real position, just vague criticism.
However you did say that you disagreed with me.
and then
You don't have to tell me what that meant, but it is reasonable for me to ask. You can continue to mildly insult me over four posts while refusing to answer that question, but you can't pretend that you are here to discuss issues. It is free speech, but it is not respectful speech. You can keep pretending that I am the only one that notices but that's not real.
Don't you see how this attitude is part of the problem?
By Roman
Thu, 11/29/2018 - 10:07pm
Let's state an ideal: a race-blind society where people are treated as individuals rather than pigeon-holed into roles based on superficial and/or immutable characteristics of birth. Under that ideal, no one gets a license to prejudge people as trustworthy or untrustworthy based on their skin color.
How do you get to that ideal? You live it. Now. That means forgiving past sins, not holding them over the heads of people who had nothing to do with them, and actively restraining yourself from hallucinating them in the absence of any real slights.
I'll give you two examples:
1. Fuck you for telling me I'm untrustworthy because some white guy who wasn't me fifty years ago fucked over some black man who wasn't you.
2. You'd tell me to fuck myself a thousand times over if I were to say I didn't want Barack Obama or Deval Patrick or Corey Booker or whoever in office because a black kid who wasn't him kicked me in the groin in elementary school.
trust is earned
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 11:20am
All of these examples seem to be about compelling someone to change their mind. Why not actually earn some trust? For instance you could stop nagging me over and over, when my answer is the same. Having a high standard for trusting people is not immoral.
Why have you typed 3763 characters demanding the benefit of the doubt for this incident? Why do you keep criticizing me for simply saying that it is a question of trust?
Maybe because I don't trust you
By Roman
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 6:17pm
Trust is earned therefore distrust until proven otherwise?
Maybe that's not such a bad idea, but then we come to the question of how we want to live. Skepticism of the accused, or skepticism of the accuser? Shake down everyone leaving the store for stolen items or shake down no one without reasonable suspicion? Assume everything you're told by all people at all times is a lie or take information at face value unless given reason to believe otherwise?
A lapse in judgment is a perfectly reasonable explanation here. Why assume it isn't, and why rake anyone over the coals to prove the negative that it isn't an expression of hatred?
Hallucinating racist windmills is the simplest explanation I can think of, and one I find quite plausible given the large amount of that I see out of your side. Calling Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner and little-old me Nazis is the kind of thing that makes me lose trust in your ability to reason about reality.
You've got to earn it back.
More twisting
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 9:20pm
I have never called you a nazi, why are you insecure about that?
None of this is a hallucination. Word salad won’t intimidate me.
Here's a historical society you might like
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 11/30/2018 - 11:33pm
http://www.royallhouse.org/
The Royall House and Slave Quarters clearly discusses how the plantation was built and run on the labor of enslaved Africans and seeks to honor their contributions through excavations, interpretation, and scholarship on Northern Slavery.
This seems very cool.
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 12/05/2018 - 8:24pm
This seems very cool.
These responses have been really strange. I’m not against the Dorchester Historical society. I bought a mug from them at the Christmas bazaar. There is a real double standard or people interpreting these kinds of things. All I ever said was it’s about trust.
So
By Waquiot
Wed, 12/05/2018 - 9:09pm
You have no problem with the DHS?
I never did.
By cinnamngrl
Thu, 12/06/2018 - 10:04am
It's about trust. It is reasonable to not trust DHS. I can understand that. Read my posts. If you look at the big picture, the mistake they made evokes the general problem of historical societies that only tell the history of white people. Linking to a webpage of a society with present day diversity, leaves out the history. I linked the globe editorial, because it specifically addresses the phenomenon of disparate interpretation. For instance white students giving the Nazi solute and black athletes getting fined for "gang signs" (that looked like a b or an ok). I never once said that DHS is racist, because i would have to know the individuals better.
So amusing
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 12:00pm
Mr.Hateful Redneckpseudobot lectures people on how to live.
How cute.
Whoa, there partner...
By whyaduck
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 11:16am
I mean whoa!!
You probably think you are pretty sharp there, Ro, but ya see if you make comments, regarding this error in judgment, that include people just need to grow a pair without really taking into consideration, well, heck, the entire history of race relations in the city (try it some time, excellent reading), you end up looking like, well, a racist.
Although I do agree with you that some slights are not worth the time to get your panties all in a wad. However, let us look at context in this case (which is also very important, Ro). Without boring you with the history of race relations in the city of Boston (which you can read about yourself), for the historical society to be so, well, ignorant of that whole fun time and print a card such as the one printed and not even think it might be construed to mean something that else, well, shame on them.
I except it was a bonehead mistake on their part and hopefully a teachable moment. But you should really pull back on your reins before going all Ayn Rand. The context of each situation needs to be taken into consideration...always.
Really?
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 12:15pm
An "honest mistake" requires that it is possible that anyone capable of critical thought could make such a "mistake".
THIS IS ABOUT AS CLUELESS AS YOU CAN GET! This is on the same level of "mistake" as printing up cards that say "Merry Fucking Christmas" with dredles on them.
It is only an "honest mistake" if it was put out by a group of people with clinically evident dementia who otherwise spend their days watching 50's TV reruns and rereading Hardy Boys mysteries.
Unless that is the case, playing dumb just ain't gonna cut it here.
Has anyone actually used a printing company in Dorchester?
By Valerie
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 12:19pm
You could see the most hilarious signs if you drive around. Printers make mistakes all the time. One business had a sign advertising laserdicks some are open seven day a week. Printers and sign makers make mistakes
Could it be that the person in charge of the copy was careless?
Anyone who lived through white flight would know that in that time Whitey Bulger was in control of the area too many families left the city to get away from the chaos crime and riots so don’t go tagging everyone a racist that’s silly. Why wouldn’t Families want an entire home instead of living in a crowded triple decker.
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By slowman4130
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 1:02pm
I guess Bing Crosby was a racist too then, right?
Wow
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 1:12pm
Is this an epidemic of cluless "honest" dementia causing this?
Brain Romaine?
Amazing. We should call the CDC?
.
By slowman4130
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 2:18pm
that doesn't even make sense.
Yup
By The Beer Guy
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 4:51am
http://bingfan03.blogspot.com/2010/12/censoring-of...
I'm sure you've never in your life made a dumb mistake, Swirly
By uhub-fan
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 9:30pm
Really. Quite positive of it.
Whoa there, partner...
By whyaduck
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 11:27am
I mean whoa!
Take a chill pill, Swirls, really, it is the holiday season. Yes, this incident is cringe worthy and, yes, I can't even imagine how it could happen but some people are truly clueless and not spending money on printing Christmas cards to send a racist holiday message. I don't know if you have ever worked for a museum and/or volunteered at your local historical society but I have and I can attest not everyone that works there is, how shall we say, using common sense on a daily basis. Now perhaps someone at the said historical society needs to find another line of volunteerism but their apology seems heartfelt. Maybe some community meetings to foster discussion? There is room to learn from this experience. I know you always think well and critically and kudos to you, Swirls! But good people sometimes do fuck up.
So, how about pouring yourself a cup of good strong eggnog (or two or three), put on those fuzzy slippers and mediate on how some non mentally challenged folks can and do do dumb and hurtful and embarrassing and (fill in your own word) things.
You seem like such a nice
By anon
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 11:53am
You seem like such a nice concern troll.
Actually, the nice part? Strike that.
You are just a concern troll talking about being civil without ever showing a shred of decency.
Obviously an honest mistake
By Scratchie
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 1:26am
It's not like there's anything in the History of Dorchester that might give the Dorchester Historical Society pause before using a harmless and historically-neutral phrase like "White Dorchester".
I gotta roll my eyes
By Waquiot
Mon, 11/26/2018 - 10:56pm
And not at the Dorchester Historical Society. I see why they are apologizing.
But to whoever thought that is was some kind of racist statement, it would appear that you are out of touch with the people who currently live in Dorchester, and particularly those who are active in the community, like the fine people at the DHS.
You know who is dreaming of that kind of Dorchester? A bunch of OFD folk living in Weymouth, Marshfield, Plymouth, and parts in between. The DHS folk are looking at it in a Bing Crosby way, and to be honest, as long as it's only a few inches and not that rain/snow combination that turns into ice, I'm hoping that all of Boston has a white Christmas.
wow. Way to trash folks from
By Bev
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 5:56am
wow. Way to trash folks from Weymouth, Plymouth and parts in between. Who's bigoted now? Fight racism with .... more racism? (and no, I am not from those areas so don't be jumping to more of your erroneous conclusions)
Ever hear of "white flight"?
By gradontripp
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 9:09am
My mother grew up in Dorchester, and moved out to the 'burbs (back then, all the way to Malden) "before everything changed".
Between the FHA redlining, predatory lenders, and realtors telling whites to "get out NOW, because because once they move in, you're house won't be worth anything", the push out to the suburbs was entirely based on white supremacy, whether explicit or implicit.
No, just stop.
By Patriciax
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 9:16am
No, just stop.
The desire for suburban life knows no color. Many immigrant Irish, Italian, Jewish, etal, moved from the city once they were established. There's nothing wrong with wanting driveways, yards and a quiet life.
[my parents found the lack of diversity in their new suburban home quite disarming at first, but as with many suburbs starting in the 70s, they also became more diverse]
Whatever
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 10:47am
Yeah. It was all racism and had nothing to do with wanting more space, less noise, and better schools. Fresh air, trees, and not going to bed to the sound of gunshots and police sirens are white privilege, we know.
Which must be why
By erik g
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 11:38am
Boston housing prices remain at historic lows, new development has stagnated, and apartment occupancy rates are so low landlords can't make an honest buck: no one wants to live within walking distance of amenities or public transportation.
We know why YOU want to live in a lily-white 'burb, Roman. Don't project your own insane motivations onto anyone else.
Blinkered and angry
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 11:49am
More people live outside of Boston, Cambridge, and Sommerville than in them. More people live outside the five boroughs than in them. Some people like the city, more power to them. Other people like open space and green lawns. That's OK too.
That describes Whitopias
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 12:20pm
Blinkered, angry, and running away because they are scared of nothing!
Urbanized areas tend to be far more tolerant of differences because living near people means learning to get along or else. No hiding with your guns!
Oh yeah Swirly, you're so tolerant it hurts
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 12:23pm
Same for lbb, erik g, and the rest of smiles and sunshine parade.
I know you are
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 1:09pm
But what am I?
Your ignorance -- WILLFUL ignorance -- about the history of this country and this state ceased to be amusing a long time ago.
You're a really negative person Swirly
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 1:29pm
Maybe it's because you like to live your uhub life like it's 1962 in Alabama all the time, or maybe you are that way because you've been making yourself see monsters under your bed for so long.
Lighten the fuck up. Life is too short to spend it knocking people down and pointing out deficiencies they don't really have. Go ride your bike, listen to some good music, go to the museum on kimono night. Anything. For your own good.
Awww
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 1:43pm
Did some snowflake get hurt feels?
Can your mommy come over to make you feel like an important little boy again?
I'm a negative person? Well, your white supremicist nationalism and hating on (other) immigrants makes you such a ray of sunshine!
Honey, maybe you should just see a shrink. Seems to be the consensus. I'm having a hard time telling your subject lines from those of a certain perennial chicken little around here.
In the meantime, I and others will continue to call you out on your specious haterade at every opportunity.
And lazy too
By Roman
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 1:58pm
No evidence of introspection, critical thinking, or any sign of expressing thoughts that weren't voted on by committee. Just blind faith that you're right.
Kind of like the (possibly) apocryphal tale of the end of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad: the conquering general said burn it down. If the books agree with the Koran, they are superfluous, if they disagree they are blasphemous.
"honey"?
By Roztonian
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 5:33pm
Addressing someone as "honey"?
That's straight up harassment.
I find it offensive, and totally tone-deaf in today's climate.
Just wow. Should be removed from the page immediately.
--------
There, see how that works.
Fair enough
By Waquiot
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 9:14am
I didn't mean to say that all the OFDs that moved to the South Shore are racist, but I do think it is safe to say that those who left Dorchester when other racial groups moved in because they wanted to stay in an all-white location did head south. I mean, I went to school with some of these people, and some of them were more open minded that I am.
That said, I will note the story of a Haitian teen-ager who worked for me back in the late 90s. Heading off to college, she said her roommate was from Walpole but she lived in Roslindale with her family until the early 90s. I gave the employee a warning to be wary, and sure enough there was some kind of ignorant incident freshman year. I bring this up to once again note that there are a fair amount of people on the South Shore who "fled" Dorchester. Are all of them racist? No, but some are.
well meaning, generally kind
By anon
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 8:22am
well meaning, generally kind people can still goof and unintentionally say hurtful or cringeworthy things. it doesn't invalidate their intent, nor was anyone raising the pitchforks to ruin these people - most everyone understood it was a thoughtless oversight. but still an oversight.
doesn't mean they should leave it up and double down. displacement and gentrification is a touchy issue in large parts of dot and unfortunately, due to our history, those things are linked to race in the US. it creates a context in which these issues are in the background, and thus the postcard, instead of just bringing up fuzzy warm happy holidays feelings, pinged people's awareness of these problems. it muddles the message DHS is trying to send.
so if DHS is full of kind and well meaning people who've goofed and sent out a message with a bunch of unintentional connotations, why wouldn't they want to clarify and apologize for any hurt feelings? that's what "fine people" usually do.
How can they be so tone deaf
By Sonicyouth
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 12:40am
How can they be so tone deaf ?
No sense of history! n/t
By ECG (nli)
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 9:28am
n/t
No sense of political
By Refugee
Wed, 11/28/2018 - 9:48am
No sense of political correctness.
Dumb
By Bugs Bunny
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 2:06am
Dumb to apologize for that. So I guess they don’t want snow in Dorchester on Christmas now because it offends some thin skinned people.
I'll bite
By Waquiot
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 9:16am
There definitely is a downside to there being a lot of snow in a densely populated place like Dorchester. I don't want to type the phrase, but it rhymes with "face savers," and it stirs up all kinds of emotions.
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By Sonicyouth
Tue, 11/27/2018 - 10:12am
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