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Cambridge to consider ways to let renters, condo owners run power cords to charge their electric vehicles at the curb

Cambridge city councilors say renters and condo owners who buy electric cars are increasingly running extension cords out their windows and across sidewalks to power up their vehicles.

Cambridge can't have that - it's a menace to pedestrians, for one thing, the councilors say. But rather than try to discourage people without driveways in which to install car chargers, in a city where public chargers are still fairly rare, councilors want city staffers to start looking at ways that renters and condo owners could power up their cars safely - like maybe with conduits under sidewalks in which to run power cords to the curb, the Cambridge Civic Journal alerts us.

In a formal request to the city manager today, four councilors ask him and other city staffers, including the city electrician to take a look at ways around the problem:

There may be a variety of products that would allow an extension cord or other power source to safely cross a sidewalk or reach the curb without creating a tripping or other hazard.

The City has responsibility for granting access to the public way, managing sidewalk obstructions and similar governance around sidewalk use and curb access; now therefore be it

ORDERED: That the City Manager be and hereby is requested to confer with City staff, including the City Electrician and the Director of the Commission for Persons with Disabilities, to determine if there is a safe and effective way for people to bring power to the curb and cross City sidewalks, to include running power cords under the sidewalk, to charge electric vehicles and, if so, how the City might best go about appropriately permitting and monitoring such activity.

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As a former City Councillor in a similar dense urban environment the issue I see right off the bat is the conduits would not work well unless it allowed access to parking the person owns. If I live at 100 Broadway there is no gurantee I will park in front of 100 Broadway. That conduit would have to be able to get to a wide range of spots and maybe even get to the other side.

As someone who owns a car I can plug in but can't I have been trying to figure out the solution because I do believe it is the future. A better way may be to work with the utility companies to install parking meter style stations in test areas at a reasonable cost.

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Except conduits would "work" to the extent that they get an extension cord across the sidewalk to the curb. Not a perfect solution, but better than the status quo.

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It would be really useful if the State or Feds provided some incentive to multi-unit buildings to install chargers.

I'm on the Board of my 45-unit condo, and we started to look into the feasibility of installing chargers. Problem is, we currently have 0 people with e-cars, and it would be hard to convince a majority of the unit owners that they oughtta pay for something that none of them needs (at the moment, anyway).

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If your are an Eversource customer, they have a program/funds to cover the cost of charger installation. Mulit-family parking is eligible. You/condo association would be responsible for buying the hardware and managing the station for multiple users. Still a tricky thing to do in a condo, but worth exploring.

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Please explain to me why we should be spending time and money figuring out how to give predominantly wealthy people even more subsidies for owning a vehicle in "dense urban environments."

"The future" is not Teslas. The "future" is making walking, biking, and mass transit the most attractive options.

Car owners use monumentally more energy per passenger mile than any other form of transportation, they're a top cause of injury and death in most cities, they prevent the effective functioning of our bus transit system, and are the biggest reason people won't bicycle (for literally decades the overwhelming reason people cite for not biking for transportation is fear of drivers), and with population growth, we simply do not have enough room, either in parking spaces, or on the road, at current usage patterns.

We, the carless, already subsidize everything about your car ownership. Your electric car got a big fat rebate, bother federal and state - and most of that revenue comes from urban areas where car ownership is lowest. When you crash, everyone else pays for police/fire/ems to fix the chaos you cause. When you injure people, our insurance pays for that. When you park on the street, assuming there even is a meter - you pay a fraction of the going rate for a parking space. The roads you drive on, especially if you live outside the city, are massively subsidized by the state, and again, most of that money comes from the urban areas. If you owned a gasoline vehicle - the legislature long since repealed the law requiring the gas tax be adjusted to compensate for fuel efficiency improvements and inflation. The tax isn't even a percentage, but a fixed dollar amount!

Car ownership in Cambridge is already incredibly skewed towards highly economically privileged people and this is only going to continue as population densities increase.

If Cambridge doesn't have the money for bike traffic signals, separated paths, bicycle lockup posts, bicycle traffic counts (seriously, the city won't pay for it, so VOLUNTEERS have to do it) - no way in hell should there be money for even *thinking* about putting in charger posts for rich aholes like you to charge up your expensive electric cars.

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Transportation emissions are nearly 40% of State emissions. Sustainable modes should absolutely be prioritized for making our transportation system more equitable and cleaner. Cambridge has better access to public transit than most, and relative to many places, is more bikeable and walkable, and yet Cambridge residents still own cars. By all means, lets keep trying to improve access to better transportation options and reduce vehicle ownership. But as long as personal vehicles are here, I'd prefer they be electric.

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I have an EV that I can charge in my basement. But this is a real barrier to people in multi-units. And they only put the chargers in commercial areas with short time restrictions. This is not how EVs for regular use can exist in high density.

We need fast chargers in neighborhoods. Maybe in off hours at school lots. Neighborhoods have schools.

Also: I have wanted to get sites like Craigslist to include EV charging as an option, to make both renters and landlords consider the situation. But I haven't got very far with that. I did talk one landlord to including it in their rental listing.

But that said: I talked to folks from a Greentown Labs company that has portable Level 3 charging about to roll out. https://sparkcharge.io/ This sounded ideal for our area.

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I agree about the fast chargers but waiting 45-60 minutes to charge is a big jump from the 5 minutes to refuel a gas tank.

I wonder if a home or building owner could have a telescoping or hinged boom which spams the sidewalk and then drops a cord down to the car? Sort of like the way self-serve car wash hoses work sometimes.

I know it's a problem in a lot of Kendall office buildings - people have to rotate their cars through the charging spots.

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At the Nissan dealer, my Leaf can charge in about 30min to a decent level (80%). But even Level 2 chargers could work in neighborhoods if we use proper etiquette.

(There's a whole slew of etiquette you have to pick up for this. Most current EV adopters get this, though. And we do understand that charging is a time sink and just plan around it. With the apps, it works ok at this point. Broader adoption though will screw this up, probably.)

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You already get massively subsidized roads, parking, emergency services...you even got a tax break on your luxury tesla. Now you want charger stations paid for by public money? Buy it yourself, Richie Rich.

Your EV doesn't fix congestion, land use from parking, injuries and deaths of pedestrians and cyclists, damage to public and private property from crashes, and all the time first responders spend going to traffic crashes.

It doesn't even use appreciably less energy, or save pollution, compared to a hybrid by the time you figure in all the efficiency losses at the power station, the transmission grid, the charger system, systems like the pre-heat and pre-cool features that waste gobs of energy, the battery chemistry/internal resistance, the motor controller, and the electric motor itself.

We need to be spending money on bicycle and mass transit infrastructure, not giving you more places to charger your #$@!ing luxury car.

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"This is not how EVs for regular use can exist in high density."

That's because cars make no sense in high density. It has nothing to do with the power source.

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Or maybe just require that people tape down a cord that crosses a sidewalk, so it's no longer a tripping hazard?

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You can still trip over something if there is duct tape on it. And then there are wheelchairs and strollers. Sidewalks should never be obstructed. People are more important than cars.
And drivers aren't known for following rules. If they were there wouldn't be 35,000 Americans killed by drivers every year. They would also lose their shit over being asked to buy tape because drivers are whiny, entitled babies.

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It's a solution, but would lead to people leaving long streaks of tape on the sidewalk; or tons of gummy tape residue.

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Not sticky, somewhat less of a trip hazard or impediment for carts and strollers and wheelchairs.

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No matter what they decide to ordain , electric codes still trump . Just ask the law offices of Dewey , Suem , aand Howe !

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This isn't perfect, but how about if they settled on an acceptable, low-profile version of these that people could buy for themselves?

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That's what I was thinking.

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and elevate the sidewalks by a few inches so that these things can be inserted in the middle the slab without needing the rampy bits on the ends.

Running extension cords out of windows is still not recommended though.

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Do what you said, and then also electrify the sidewalk to melt ice.

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Water has one of the higher specific heats of common substances (4.2 kJ/kg/K) and melting ice takes something like 300 kJ/kg.

By contrast, you shoveling snow peak at a few hundred watts. Better to feed you nice and hearty food to clear the sidewalk than waste it on electrification. Or alternatively, run a snowblower for a few minutes.

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My wife and I live in Charlestown and really want to go electric but there is literally no place to charge. We live on a 6 ft-wide street with no parking and have a public park between us and the closest parking so even there isn't really any way we could charge from our house. If Boston is serious about tackling climate change we really need to start installing public charging stations in dense urban neighborhoods without much private parking. I think I read that new garage projects are required to have some amount of charging stations but that doesn't help in heavily build-up neighborhoods like Charlestown or the North End where new projects will be few and far between.

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It has installed charging portals on street light poles

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I think this is the thing to do--see what has worked or not worked in other places with lots of electric cars. So Europe, California and anywhere else. Don't reinvent the wheel--when ever we try that here we end up with weird things like pausing exit gates in the T.

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One old idea about charging infrastructure is getting electric cars to have a generic, removable battery pack. You visit the gas station, they physically take out your drained battery and swap in a charged one.

It would work like propane tank exchange, and address the limited range problem.

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The Tesla Model 3's battery modules (4 in total) weigh just a bit over 1000 lbs -- that's not an easy swap-out just based on weight alone. One other issue with exchanging batteries and that make is the sled design for the battery pack -- the batteries sit under the passenger cabin, which has the benefit of keeping the CG low, but would also make swapping out batteries difficult.

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I believe that was the idea behind the Watertown based A123 battery charger company which flamed out and was absorbed by a Chinese company before it could take off. Basically, they'd supply hot swap battery platform infrastructures and car companies would supply the rest. Too complex to take off and companies always want to own their IP and license it to others.

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Ten years ago when they were new and hot and exciting, they were throwing everything at the wall:

Talks with GM for the Chevy Volt, talks with Tesla if I remember, solar storage (like the thing Tesla built for NSW in Australia), aerospace (both aircraft and satellites).

The "battery swap station" stuff was just more stuff to fling to see if it sticks. It might not be a bad idea when looked back on fifty years from now, but the fundamental road block is the fact that 1000lbs of battery barely has the same performance as 100lbs of gasoline at more than twice the cost of the car.

Magic batteries that get you back under the 200 lbs mark? Maybe they can compete with liquid fuels. Except that now you're packing rocket fuel in your car, in Boston traffic. Remember kids: a traditional battery works just like high explosives: fuel and oxidizer packed close proximity to one another. Aluminum-air or related technologies may be a way out of this, but so far it's just niche applications.

If you give me a $100 to bet on future transportation technology, I'd bet 10-20 on electric cars of all forms, another 30 on petroleum-derived fuels, and the rest on synthetic liquid hydrocarbons derived from plants.

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internet can be provided through the power outlets in homes. Folks in a couple towns in the NorthWest get internet through their home power outlets. internet carried on the same lines that provide power.

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Why not look to convert street light poles to public charging stations like they are in Europe or NYC?

https://www.smartcitiesworld.net/news/news/turning-light-poles-into-elec...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gdt8Ygjy4Q

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Because we already dedicate enough resources to cars as it is.

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