Arielle, who moved here from New York, says Bostonians are wussy drinkers:
... In Boston, people drink to get drunk. I know what you're thinking - hellooooo, New Yorkers drink to get drunk too. This is true, but New Yorkers add another dimension to it; they drink to get drunk AND do awesomely ridiculous things. Bostonians stop short of this last bit. ...
I can't even remember the amount of times I've listening to someone in Boston talk about the night before and say something like, "Oh man, so-and-so was sooo drunk, he had to be taken home early." And they say this with AWE! And ADMIRATION! It's like, oooh they maxed out on their drinking so they must be FUCKING AWESOME! If a New Yorker hears about someone who had to go home early, you know what they think about the situation? "FAIL!!!" Because hello, you did a stupid thing and you missed out on a night of partying. When someone in New York goes home early, they APOLOGIZE the next day. ...
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I've noticed a few things
By mediaseth
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 9:41am
For not being very far apart from one another, New York and Boston are very different places. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Sports aside, even the rivalry makes little sense. The nightlife in both cities is drastically different. First, there's the difference in hours. Then, there's the difference in variety. Thirdly, there's the difference in diners, restaurants and even some shops being open much later in NYC. It's gone now, but I used to stop by a 24 hour record store on Avenue A. I've bought clothes after 11pm. It's really a whole different "country" than New England.
Having said that, I've lived in Boston for about 15 years and NYC longer. I still need to go to NYC to get my "fix" of a proper night out. Boston doesn't even know how to let loose. People are more uptight here and less likely to speak to strangers and even more likely to get into fights. I just don't understand it. I go out to have fun and I don't like to rush my drinking to fit it all in before last call. In NYC, there's no rush because there's that much more time. I don't even go out to bars in Boston that much anymore. At least where I am now, in Lynn, there are (contrary to the reputation) far friendlier establishments.
Sorry for the rant!!
To say nothing of the
By anon
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 9:53am
To say nothing of the difference in public transit. We HAVE to go home early or spend $30 on a cab ride.
My experience with Lynn bars
By ShadyMilkMan
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 10:09am
My experience with Lynn bars have been hit or miss, which places do you recomend?
and we're about to get two more downtown..
By mediaseth
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 10:52am
There's Tatiana's on Market st, which is a restaurant and bar. 47 Lounge is mostly a gay bar but hetero-friendly, The Sand Bar is non-sketchy, and within a couple of months we'll have two locations transformed. One is becoming a wine/cheese/coffee bar called turbine. The other is replacing the Bistro/Oxford St Grill. It's going to be called the Blue Ox. My place of choice at the moment is Tatiana's. The staff is super-friendly and I like to have food available.
I will have to give them a
By ShadyMilkMan
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 12:55pm
I will have to give them a shot, to be honest I havent been back to Lynn since I heard about that little cafe in downtown closing. I forget the name but it had little dog as a mascot, and I believe some aliens.
That was Gulu-Gulu
By mediaseth
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 2:26pm
It was an excellent cafe. They have a second location in Salem that is going strong. Turbine is going to open soon in its place.
I'm thinking of one word with two syllables:
By pahkcah02
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 9:44am
SUNY
Annoying people
By fenwayguy
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 10:32am
Hah. Does Adam's tag on this story refer to the drinkers or the poster? Yet another boring New Yorker with a boring complaint about boring old Boston. Please, just go...
Irony
By Matt
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 10:36am
The ironic thing about that post is, in attempting to reinforce the stereotype of Bostonians (boring), she manages to reinforce the stereotype of New Yorkers (stuck up).
Unintentional comedy is always the best.
I know it can come off that way..
By mediaseth
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 11:00am
...but just imagine having all of those conveniences and the variety NYC has to offer and then having to give it up. I was spoiled. On top of that, after all these years, I still can't understand the aversion to allowing restaurants, at least, to stay open later. I wouldn't say that I'm stuck up, though, so much as I just don't understand it and no one has given me a convincing enough argument. Usually instead of a rational argument, someone says something along the lines of what you said or just gets defensive. But, I like Boston. I didn't stay here because I had to. I wanted to. There are just certain things I'd like to change. :)
And speaking of being stuck up, I can't even mention where I'm from without being judged. I don't even like sports and I'm hated because of a sports rivalry. That's nuts! And furthermore, it takes more of an effort for the locals to open up to you here than anywhere else I've been. I could be here thirty years and still never be "from" here, nor made to feel that way.
I as a Bostonian agree. The
By anon
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 12:25pm
I as a Bostonian agree.
The financial district closes shop at 5pm and is a ghost town besides a few stragglers leaving for home.
Eateries close early, and Bars and Pubs close early also. Most Restaurants are Pubs for this matter alone, since they can then change over and keep patrons. Switch this and relax closing rules and I think you’d see the number of Pub’s reduced which wouldn’t be a bad thing.
MBTA doesn’t run service past 12:30, which is unacceptable since the city allows places that serve alcohol to stay open until 1:30.
Every try catching a cab past 8pm? Good luck…. Then it’s $30 one way if you’re traveling 4 miles or more.
If Boston wants to be the world class city it says it is, it should allow establishments to stay open as long as they choose, and get the MBTA on board to offer reduced service on off peak hours. A train run every hour isn’t too much to between 1am and 3am.
That said, NYC has it’s own problems too. So lets fix our and get a leg up on em’
Is it such a bad thing that
By ShadyMilkMan
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 2:10pm
Is it such a bad thing that we get to sleep earlier then the people in NYC? NYC is such a big place, they have many more people then we do so of course they are going to have more options then we do. I would rather have more buses running during rush hour then sending those buses to late night services.
One bus on each route
By anon
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 3:10pm
One bus on each route running on once an hour isn't exactly going to break the bank. they used to have the night owl and it was a smashing success, but then cut it and buried any mention of it.
It ran limited bus services along the subway lines after the subway closed till about 3am, which is all that's really needed.
If anything, it makes the roads safer from idiots that would drive drunk. And safer from people who would walk long distances home while intoxicated.
Most routes during rush hour are pretty well run at good intervals; adding more buses isn't going to do much especially when it's traffic causing tie up's. Getting GPS and route monitoring sent to peoples personal computing devices would be better so people can track buses on their routes and see delays.
In transit, more information makes for a happier customer.
I legitimately didn't know
By Arielle
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 11:29am
I legitimately didn't know that Bostonians being boring WAS a stereotype. It's certainly not something I ever heard from anyone and I'm in my 5th (non-consecutive) year of living here. And as far as New Yorkers being stuck up? I can't deny that for a second.
I seriously wasn't aware ...
By barfchoker
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 11:59am
that getting drunk and doing something epic stupid was not only something to brag about but fashionably necessary.
That's where this opinion is
By anon
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 12:30pm
That's where this opinion is wrong.
We have our fair share of epic stupidity while drunk. A quick search of Adam's postings offers much Hilarity, usually from Boston West (BC/BU)
Maybe the blogger just needs to hang with a different group of friends?
Don't you wanna be cool?
By anon
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 12:38pm
Maybe all New Yorkers are secretly fifteen.
Arielle, tell me--why did
By Adam
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 12:50pm
Arielle, tell me--why did you go to school here? And if you think it sucks so much, why don't you leave?
I'd also second the suggestion that you may simply have the wrong drinking friends.
When you're relatively unfamiliar with a place, it's probably best to avoid making sweeping generalizations.
I think there's a bit more you don't know, babe.
By Boston Transplant
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 3:53pm
That's not really a stereotype, so much as it is the ignorance you've exhibited in your blog. I took the liberty of perusing some of your other posts, and found it quite interesting that you aren't even from New York, and are somewhat ignorant of both fine cities. New York is a starbucks city? Really? Ever see this?
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I guess if you're from the Upper West Side
By mediaseth
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 4:08pm
or hang in the tourist areas and think that Sbarro's or however it's spelled is real NYC pizza.
Change Boston so MBA students can have wild drunk stories
By neilv
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 2:06pm
NOT!
I also failed to notice her
By ShadyMilkMan
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 4:10pm
I also failed to notice her age... She is 25 and is comparing life in Boston at 25 to life in NYC at a different age, presumably as a college student. College aged students tend to do stupid things more often then 25 year olds ( I know 25 year olds can be stupid as well, but isnt that around the age when you realize, hey I may look like an idiot, or hey if I get arrested I will be late for work.) Maybe she is the one who is getting old and boring?
Good Point!
By Boston Transplant
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 4:18pm
Quite true. From 18 to 22 or so, I did some lamentably stupid things after a night of drinking (right here in Boston no less). I got bounced hard from the old Naked I caberet, in fist fights over things like how to play with a cat, and carted off to Allston/Brighton district jail. My goodness my drinking is boring these days!
I think it's an age difference too, plus student vs working
By Mia
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 4:31pm
Although the whole NYC vs Boston is tiresome no matter what age (and I'm a New Yorker). Different cities, different culture.
That said, I am sure there are Bostonians out there willing to "drink to get drunk" with her.
Im in my late 20's and the
By ShadyMilkMan
Mon, 02/02/2009 - 4:34pm
Im in my late 20's and the same people who gave me a hard time for not wanting to do things that could get me arrested are now going to bed at midnight on a friday night and passing on a simple innocent drinking game. They have jobs, and kids, and old parents to watch out for lol.