City Councilor Michelle Wu (at large) says a rapidly growing Boston can no longer simply dole out unlimited free resident parking permits to residents and wants the city to start charging $25 per annual sticker - with exemptions for senior citizens, low-income residents and home-health and BPS staff who make regular home visits.
Wu's proposal, which the City Council will consider tomorrow, would also create, for the first time, a visitor pass, good for 72 hours - at a cost of $10 per visit.
"The current system is ineffective at managing curbside space in a manner that is fair and accessible to all who need to park on-street overnight," she writes in her proposal.
Boston has long doled out the permits for free - and has limited visitors to small numbers of spaces that are often taken by residents.
In her proposed ordinance - which they council will likely send to a committee for a hearing and study - Wu says that's no longer feasible when the Boston's population has increased by 100,000 since 1980 and number of permits in the city has increased 25% over the past ten years in a city that now has at least 300 households with five or more cars registered to them.
Her proposal also includes a way for the city to designate new areas for permitted parking, without waiting for residents to file petitions for them.
In her request for a hearing, she says the current system particularly benefits well off residents:
The current system to establish resident parking zones requires residents to self-organize and collect signatures from at least 51% of adult residents who live on the affected streets. Through this system, neighborhoods with resources and time have an advantage, which only perpetuates systemic inequities. ... More than half of households without vehicles have annual incomes less than
$25,000. Only 7% of zero-vehicle households make over $100,000
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Any source for permits by neighborhood?
By downtown-anon
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:10pm
This is nuts in any of the downtown neighborhoods, but not outrageous is parts of Dorchester.
5*300 is 1500+ cars. What is the total permit count now? What portion of the 1500+ cars have permits?
Would a non-linear fee increase structure might do more to discourage people from registering their car collection for permits.
Let's use some exponents
By Ari O
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:44pm
Car 1: 5^2 = 25
Car 2: 5^3 = 125
Car 3: 5^4 = 625
Car 4: 5^5 = 3125
Car 5: 5^6 = 15625
I would assume that a number of these households are five unrelated people living together, though (i.e. roommates), so that seems a bit steep. Maybe make it an escalating fee for people who have cars under the same ownership at the same household, i.e. the car collectors.
Or:
Car 1: 25*2^0 = 25
Car 2: 25*2^1 = 50
Car 3: 25*2^2 = 100
Car 4: 25*2^3 = 200
Car 5: 25*2^4 = 400
This scale probably makes more sense. In a household with five vehicles registered, the average cost of a permit would be $155. That's still less than most vehicles pay for registration, inspection and excise tax each year.
What do you mean it's not
By raz611
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:15pm
What do you mean it's not outrageous in Dorchester? For a single household to have 5 cars taking up public streets seems extreme anywhere.
Except in Dorchester, often
By anon (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:33pm
Except in Dorchester, often it's multigenerational living with 3-4 households living under one roof.
The census doesn't back you up
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:57pm
Two households, perhaps ... 3-4? nope.
2017 ACS shows that occupancy is high in the Dorchester tracts, but not that extreme.
In any case, they can share cars. I have what qualifies as an inter-generational household now and we have 1 car.
Boston as a whole averages just less than a vehicle per household - 0.94 to be exact. This means that multi-car households are being subsidized by no-car households.
Come by my street in
By dotbowdoin (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:23pm
Come by my street in Dorchester. There is one individual who has six to seven cars all parked on the street and they never move. They are registered and inspected so, there’s nothing wrong with what he’s doing. Surely an annoyance tho when one has to park around the block.
What if the household is a
By anon (not verified)
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 4:05pm
What if the household is a bunch of roommates in a 7-bedroom house? 5 cars is perfectly fine.
nope
By cinnamngrl* (not verified)
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 6:28pm
more than 2 cars need to find off street parking. households like this are the problem.
Why is it a worse problem
By anon (not verified)
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:20am
Why is it a worse problem than the same house divided into 7 condos?
Can't be a problem
By cinnamngrl
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 5:19pm
You would never get to create 7 units without off street parking.
Ha ha ha $25
By JustinM (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:26pm
$25 isn't "charging for parking", that's a nominal fee that barely covers the cost of doling out the stickers and maintaining the database. And of course they have to add exemptions- as if someone could afford to buy a car and pay insurance, maintenance, repairs, gas, tolls, parking, excise and sales tax, registration, etc., but $25 is going to break the bank.
Want to solve the parking problem? Charge a market rate for stickers. Make it revenue neutral - you can get one free sticker per so many bedrooms or household residents, and after that you have to pay at least $1,000 a year per sticker. In return households with no cars get a large rebate on their property taxes.
THANK YOU. People flipping
By anon (not verified)
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 8:43am
THANK YOU. People flipping out about OMG MY TAXES ALREADY PAID FOR THE ROADS --- ok but there are literal costs to administrating the permit program itself, which, y'know, non-drivers were fronting the costs for. It seems very basic that city services should be allowed to offset their costs by charging a nominal (and 25$/year is VERY nominal) fee to the program's specific users.
I'd support an increase in the price for every additional car registered to an address/household. 5 cars is absurd for any one apartment.
On the subject of resident parking
By MikeBoston
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:29pm
It is odd that in my new neighborhood of South Boston (moved from the South End), the resident parking is only in effect from Monday night at 6pm through Friday morning at 8am - but resident parking places are open to all from 8am Friday through 6pm on Monday. Just this past weekend, 4 cars on my street, all with out of state plates, parked from Friday night to Monday morning without fear of repercussion.
Called City Hall to inquire as to why things were set up this way, they had no valid explanation other than "that's the way it is" and suggested that I organize 51% of the residents in a 5 block radius, obtain signatures from those in favor of amending the resident hours and then submit the request to Transportation Department
Out of town
By Bugs Bunny (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:35pm
So if you have out of state friends drive to visit you for the weekend what are you going to do with their car?
Out of town
By MikeBoston
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:31pm
As there are 10+ visitor spaces within a three block radius of my house, I would have them park there.
Southie visitor spaces
By anon (not verified)
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:21am
Southie visitor spaces require moving the car every 2 hours overnight. Some hospitality.
Visitor spaces
By GoSoxGo
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 11:50am
are almost always occupied by vehicles with resident stickers, since there is no restriction.
I would love to see the hours
By dparks (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:42pm
I would love to see the hours changed so they're generally overnight. I live in Charlestown and during the day on a weekday there's a huge surplus of open spots when virtually every street is reserved for residents. In the evenings, when there are no restrictions, spots are much harder to come by. Also, during the day people are far more likely to have repair trucks, contractors, etc. trying to park nearby than during overnight hours. At the very least I feel like most neighborhoods could use more 1 or 2 hour parking spots (with exemptions for resident permits).
Charlestown restrictions
By downtown-anon
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:59pm
I think part of the day time restriction is to prevent people from parking there and then walking over to take the Orange Line.
But why is that bad, if there
By anon (not verified)
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:24am
But why is that bad, if there's plenty of spaces during the day?
And why have an overnight restriction on nonresidents? The only demand then is residents or people visiting residents. So the residents are the ones causing the shortage.
Probably due to historic usage
By ScottB
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:55pm
Before Southie became the next hot place to live, the impetus for resident parking restrictions was likely deterring commuters from parking in the neighborhood and taking the Red Line or bus to their places of work. If parking was readily available on weekends, there would be less need to restrict it at those times, and there are pluses to not restricting parking in low-demand times if visitor permits aren't something the City offers.
20 years ago, much of the SoWa area was wide-open for parking. No street cleaning, no resident parking restrictions (apart from a couple of streets), not even any parking meters. Every single space was taken on weekdays (mostly commuters to downtown and BMC) but at nights or on weekends you could park pretty much wherever.
In my neighborhood (Savin
By tape
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:32pm
In my neighborhood (Savin Hill area), the hours are 10A-6P M-F, because we have a huge problem of people using the neighborhood as a free commuter parking lot for the JFK and Savin Hill T stops. It becomes difficult to park in general but on street cleaning days it's downright impossible. Unfortunately only some of the streets/blocks have successfully petitioned the city for permit-only parking so half the neighborhood is still an insane free-for-all.
In Southie, I believe the hours were set up as overnight because the bigger parking concern there is that there's not enough room anymore for residents to park overnight at their homes.
Every neighborhood has its own concerns and the restricted times are a reflection of that.
I would sign!
By Living in Southie (not verified)
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 10:01am
I've been in Southie since 2005 and it's out of control now. Have a visitor over the weekend? Have them park at the Black Falcon garage and uber in. They shouldn't get resident spots when there aren't enough spots for residents.
Why shouldn't residents have
By anon (not verified)
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:25pm
Why shouldn't residents have to Uber from Black Falcon?
This is SO off the mark.....
By Roztonian (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:42pm
So I am already paying property tax and excise tax, now I will have to spend 75 bucks to park my cars in front of my house? Classic Democrat move. "
She states that our parking system is not working - and her (typical Democrat) solution is to tax people and make their lives more difficult.
If someone has to "circle the block" then tough shit. Taxing people is not going to reduce cars.
I live in Boston and travel for work (so I need a car). My house is within the resident sticker zone from the mbta stop. So I should be penalized for that?
If the city council wants to be "fair", require it for every car parked on a city street overnight. There is your "equity".
Also, this plan on it's face will ensure less parking for residents in high congestion areas. If someone can buy a guest pass for $10 (good for 72 hours), good luck finding spaces now. Under the guest pass, every area of Back Bay, South End, Fenway, Brighton, Charlestown, Southie, etc. will have non residents parking in resident spots for 72 hours at a clip.
We can't expect our leaders to tackle real problems like a shitty mbta, instead they just tax hard working Bostonians.
Oh and guess what, as the residential wave continues out to all areas of the city (especially along train lines), resident parking will be coming there too. So her comment about Mattapan is a lie.
Want a solution?, create a guest pass, but make it $25 per day, that way RESIDENTS aren't penalized for parking in front of their own houses, and their own neighborhoods.
Just rediculous. Enough.
Classic "fiscal" conservative viewpoint
By spin_o_rama
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:35pm
You currently don't pay the true cost of driving and it forces taxpayers that don't drive to make up the difference, sorry Charlie.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...
https://commonwealthmagazine.org/transportation/re...
Socialism is for me, not for thee, amirite? But I thought there was no such thing as a free lunch?
darn fiscal conservatives...
By Roztonian (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:22pm
how rude, wanting to keep more of the money I earn, right?
The true cost of driving? SO is this about driving? or about parking? How is additional taxing of Boston residents of going to fix Mass State Roads, and bridges, and the MBTA? BTW - the MBTA should look at their failing "20 and out" pension system, and their broken down trains (and stations) before they support the taxation of residents with cars.
Newsflash - the majority of people drive in this state, and just because my street requires resident stickers (while the next block over doesn't), I should not be taxed again to park in front of my own house. I LIVE here and already pay taxes in the process.
This is another example of out-of-touch progressive pols trying another money grab - and sticking it to working people.
If Michelle Wu wants to take the bus and the train to work at city hall that is fine, and I am sure she has a car as well. But not everyone who lives in Boston also works in Boston. And I should not be penalized because I want to park in from of my own home.
And why is she proposing only the taxation of areas of the city with resident stickers? Shouldn't all residents of Boston need resident stickers then? and shouldn't all of them be taxed? Also, cyclists are using the roads as well, via dedicated lanes. Time to start a registration process and taxation of them as well, right? they are using the same roads, and bridges after all.
Crying about handouts while receiving handouts
By spin_o_rama
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:21pm
You can't go about complaining about increasing costs to store your private vehicle on public roads, when you currently don't pay enough for the usage of those public roads. Driving and parking are connected bud.
I don't see you really offering up any solutions to addressing how we are going to fund the maintenance of our states roads, thats not even mentioning expansion and upgrades to the current system. As has been said before, you don't pay enough to cover your usage of the roads to a point where our funding for highways is insolvent. So why should those of us that can't use those highways pay for your ride? We also subsidize your gas so thats nice but keep telling me you pay enough.
I agree though, expand the parking permit to all city neighborhoods and streets. Why should we be allowing valuable public property to be used at well below market rate? Again, doesn't sound very fiscally conservative to me.
Also you keep jumping between the state residents and Boston residents, which is it? The demographics of urban car ownership obviously will greatly differ with the suburbs but why should valuable public property be set aside, for free? Again, why are you asking car-free households to subsidize those that drive? Doesn't sound very conservative to me.
But the bike point is interesting to make. Cyclists are often licensed drivers, so there goes that point. Also when the costs of providing the sliver of bike infrastructure come anywhere near what we spend for all the highways/roads/bridges that only cars can use, maybe we can talk about that. You want me to pay excise tax? Cool, where should I send my $3 check? Oh and registering and taxing them is just creating even more bureaucracy for something that children can ride, I thought you people were all about limited government?
"store your private vehicle on public road" just wow
By Roztonian (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:43pm
"store your private vehicle on public road" just wow
reality - parking on a neighborhood side street in front of (or near) my home.
your "reality" - storing my private vehicle on a public road
your logic is frightening, but also amusing.
This is a clear money grab - plain and simple.
The city can barely plow my street - but let's increase taxes! that will fix it.
This is nothing but a money
By Lmo
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 10:54pm
This is nothing but a money grab. Show me a real plan before bringing it to the city council. If she truly wanted this plan to work, it would be city wide. Permit all neighborhoods. Count all parking spots in each neighborhood and only assign enough permits for the amount of actual spots. Make Boston city wide permits.
The city would never follow through with any of this. The city councilors always find a way of taking a little bit more of our money and wasting it. They haven’t had a raise yet this year, must be coming up.
Wow indeed, reality check time
By kisumxes
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 3:52am
Do you own the road in front of your house? Do you live off a private right-of-way?
No? -> public road
Is your car immobile when it’s parked in front of your house, thereby preventing others from using the space it occupies?
Yes -> storage
Does your car belong to you or your bank?
Yes -> private property
Welcome to reality.
You sound like one of those
By tofu (not verified)
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 10:43am
You sound like one of those people who moves into a townhome area with an HOA - which owns everything from the studs in your walls out - and then starts complaining that HOA rules forbid you from putting up flags, Christmas decorations, or doing car repairs on their property.
Your private space ends at the surveyed line of your lot. Your 'neighborhood street' IS public property, you ARE storing your car there, and you are NOT entitled to do so indefinitely.
what about shoveling? hmmmm
By Roztonian (not verified)
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 3:06pm
what about shoveling? hmmmm
like if I don't shovel the "public walkway" in front of my house, I get fined by the city.
weird right?
Seems to me
By kisumxes
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:34pm
it’s rather rude to ask the taxpayers to continue to subsidize your driving to the tune of somewhere around $.30 driven.
Seems to me the proper fiscally conservative thing to do would be to call for an increase in vehicle excise duty and gas tax to the point where all costs caused by motor vehicle traffic are covered.
Here’s a good read: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...
P.S. you can’t reduce driving without reducing parking. So yes, this is about parking, so it’s also about driving.
Circling the block looking
By aaron.s.weber@g...
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:07pm
Circling the block looking for parking creates traffic slowdowns and poor air quality, leading to increased medical costs & deaths in the neighborhood. Why not use a free-market mechanism: Set a number of permits equal to the number of available spaces, and hold an auction?
Isn't that the free-market conservative approach?
what the actual hell?
By Roztonian (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:34pm
Hold an auction so I can park on my own street?
Anything else you want to place the government in charge of?
Mother of gawd.
Newsflash, there are MANY areas of Boston that require resident sticker because of their proximity to MBTA stations - which is done to deter people from coming in from the burbs and taking resident spots all day long (not to mention sidestepping MBTA parking lot fees). It is not always about congestion. I don't have a hard time parking in front of my house, but now I need to pay to do so?
It's not "your street"
By Lunchbox
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:53pm
The City owns the street. You're parking there by the generosity of the City.
Yes, we’re only responsible
By Lmo
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:12pm
Yes, we’re only responsible for shoveling and keeping the sidewalk clean 365 days a year. Thanks so much for your generosity ol’city.
exactly
By Roztonian (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:26pm
exactly - UHUB commentators love the "its not your street" argument.
But gawd forbid someone doesn't shovel their sidewalk within a reasonable time, then they magically own it. People can't wait to whip out their iPhones and send a 311 complaint.
unreal
Commenters.
By Lmo
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 10:58pm
I’m interested to know the parking practices of the cities/towns they are from or if they even had cars in those cities and towns?
I'm in Somerville, where we
By aaron.s.weber@g...
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:39am
I'm in Somerville, where we charge a modest fee ($40) for an annual parking permit and an additional fee to get a visitor pass ($20-40).
The price per permit does not escalate with the number of permits issued, nor is the number of permits restricted by capacity. My household has one car which is parked on the street-- it's my wife's, which she is required to have for her job as a field sales rep.
Im not talking about where
By Lmo
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:56am
Im not talking about where people live now, I mean where they grew up.
Why?
By spin_o_rama
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 1:04pm
You wanna do this don't you?
https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha
No
By Lmo
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 1:52pm
I’m genuinely curious. I know you get your rocks off from anything having to do with cars, but jeez.
Nah
By spin_o_rama
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:08am
I get my rocks off from anything having to do with bikes, you missed a good chance to say I have temper tantrums about cars.
I don't believe you're genuinely curious, I think its to troll. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean yeah, thats kinda how being a property owner works
By spin_o_rama
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 1:04pm
If you don't shovel the sidewalk that your neighbors use in reasonable amount of time, why are they the bad person for calling you out to 311? They just don't want their mobility impacted by your selfishness.
If you don't like how the law works, you're more than welcome as a property owner to organize a campaign to change this system. Hey maybe you'll find a way for the city to clear sidewalks for everyone so its not just road users getting reliable snow removal.
thanks for proving my point.
By Roztonian (not verified)
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 3:22pm
so I don't own the street (public space), so I have no say about where I can park
and I don't own the sidewalk (public space), but I do own it when it snows - and it's my responsibility to shovel it
cool, cool.
Its a stupid point though
By spin_o_rama
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:36am
Our tax dollars pay to have the snow removed from the road. They don't pay to have it removed from sidewalks, in general.
So if its not property owners, whos doing it? The city? Cool, whos paying for it? Oh why not charge property owners!
Congratulations, we found a way to make sure you don't have to be responsible for it. You still should have to pay for your parking permit too.
IMO we should fix that too
By eherot
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:15pm
IMO we should fix that too while we're at it...
Paying to park on your own street? Certainly not.
By DRock (not verified)
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:25pm
If you own the street, the city can't make you pay to park there.
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