Note: Both the story and the attached affidavit containing potentially triggering text.
A Rhode Island man was arrested today on federal charges of cyberstalking and transmitting a threat in interstate commerce for a series of violent anti-abortion and anti-Democratic e-mail messages he sent to a professor in Massachusetts and the admissions office at a professional school at the professor's university last month.
Matthew Haviland, 30, of North Kingstown, was scheduled for arraignment today in US District Court in Boston, the US Attorney's office in Boston reports.
According to an affidavit by a Chelsea detective working on the Boston-area Joint Terrorism Task Force, Haviland, who went to school in Boston between 2008 and 2012, issued several violent threats in a barrage of 28 e-mail messages he sent on March 10 to the professor. Officials did not identify the professor but said had published articles both in favor of abortion rights and against President Trump. WCVB reports the professor teaches at Harvard.
The messages included:
You who try to shut up people based on race, you who take a president who's taking our country in a place of more freedom rather than less, you who would brutally murder a child after they were born (or before they were born).
You are Evil. Pure evil - all Democrats must be eradicated, like the Confederates before them and among their ranks. They must be slaughtered.
You deserve to have your innards ripped from your body and savored over the flesh of all Abortion doctors.
You will have your face ripped off and eaten by me, personally. I will enjoy raping your body after you're dead.
And that will only be the start.
I will kill every Democrat in the world so we never more have to have our babies brutally murdered by you absolute terrorists. I will enjoy ripping the skin from your bodies peace by piece while you scream in agony.
A few days later, the affidavit continues, Haviland sent similar messages to the admissions office at the professor's university.
The affidavit says that the professor, alarmed at the messages, contacted police. North Kingstown Police, who had already made several wellness checks on Haviland over the preceding few months, were alerted about the messages and paid another visit to Haviland:
Haviland stated that he was only expressing his political views and has no intention of harming himself or anyone else. He admitted that some of his language had been strong. The police recommended that Haviland think about the way his statements would be interpreted by those who read or heard them and Haviland agreed that he would.
On April 4 and 5, he left roughly 114 voice messages at a Rhode Island abortion clinic about Nazis and murdered babies, the affidavit continues.
Just two days ago, he posted a YouTube video saying it would be OK to murder an abortion doctor.
In a statement, Joseph Bonavolonta, special agent in charge of the FBI Boston Division said:
Simply put, words matter, and today’s arrest of Matthew Haviland should serve as a warning to others who think they can use the internet to terrorize people. Don’t do it. Everyone has the right to express their opinion, but when you threaten, harass, intimidate, and put others in fear for their lives, it’s a federal crime.
If convicted, he faces up to five years in federal prison.
Innocent, etc.
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Comments
Convict him. I'm sick and
By anon
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 5:17pm
Convict him. I'm sick and tired of these MF'ers.
Anti-abortion AND pro
By baustin
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 5:48pm
Anti-abortion AND pro-cannibalism?! That's got to be a niche group. Like people who think you should not put bean sprouts on a sandwich because they will become tasty full-grown beans someday.
You
By Luke Warm
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 5:53pm
sir are pure magagaga from the land o' maga.
not a big fan of Pelosi but she is wise to hold off these sociopaths from gaining an excuse to become legion. let the real americans correct their mistake in the 2020 election.
sick shit. and everyone that still supports trump is morally lost.
He seems like he's a few fries short of a Happy Meal
By PeyoteEatingWat...
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 5:55pm
Would it be better for society to put this guy in prison or a psych ward? Kinda reminds me of that crazed art student guy who was skipping and yelling on Boylston Street a few months after the Marathon Bombing.
I don't care where they put him
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 7:46pm
So long as it is "in custody" and "for a long time".
Had John Salvi the Terrorist had access to all these electronic communication methods, perhaps someone would have been able to stop him before he brutally murdered my neighbor.
Crazed Art Student on Boylston St
By Dennis Cloherty
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:18pm
Kevan was an art student and he was observing the one year anniversary of the bombing. He was dressed in a black veiled mourning hat with a pressure cooker on his back. What he was trying to communicate was the death of the pressure cooker bombing and a re-birth out of the darkness. He really is a nice kid but a little on the performance artsy side that was not well understood, he meant no harm.
Women's right to choose? Bad!
By Kinopio
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 5:55pm
Women's right to choose? Bad! Murdering people based on their political views? Good! What logic. Yup, he's a Trump voter. Our prisons are overcrowded with maniac Trump voters and members of Trumps campaign.
I have to wonder..
By Friartuck
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 6:42pm
If the professor had some relation to the Nutrition program at URI...
Are you really flirting with doxxing a victim
By anon
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 8:36pm
in a Federal stalking crime? When one of the many inspired crazy people was just taken down, but many more exist? Please think.
No, I think he was making a joke about the alleged cannibal
By adamg
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:34pm
Besides, we know that the professor teaches in Massachusetts, more specifically, at Harvard (based on the description of his writings, I think it's safe to say we're not talking about Alan Dershowitz).
It's getting harder and harder to deny that
By MC Slim JB
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 6:57pm
the election of Donald Trump kicked over a giant rock to expose a teeming horde of violent, socially maladapted right-wing losers, freaks, and out-and-out psychopaths.
Now try and pretend that Trump's adolescent bullying rhetoric online and at his rallies doesn't encourage these dregs of society.
I guess it's useful to know they exist, but I preferred the America where they stayed hidden in their basements instead of feeling like they got a hall pass from the Ignorant Fear-Mongering Bigot-in-Chief.
If you try hard enough....
By Doug1001
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 11:37pm
You can trick your brain into reaching whatever conclusions you wish. You and your ilk routinely do this - I'm not even mad about it. Delusions must be fun for some people I guess - there's a lot of you running around these days.
So, are you defending this guy
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 12:30am
as *not* a right-wing loser and/or psychopath? I can’t really believe you are. Or are you?
I think if you’re unaware of a growing wave of right-wing terrorism, hate crimes and vigilantism in the last two years, you’re not paying attention. A lot of people who used to hide their anti-social, violent tendencies clearly feel emboldened these days, and they all seem to wear the same red hats. Why respect the rule of law when the Dear Leader has such obvious contempt for it?
I haven’t tricked my brain into the same delusions as you...
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 2:55am
Psychopath in what way? That he calls out these jack asses who whine and cry and spew propaganda about him all day every day? Maybe he’s sick and tired of these lunatics not shutting the F up for 5 minutes.
I think you’re unaware of how unhinged the left has become over the last 2 years... and either you’re not paying attention or you justify it because you’ve tricked your brain into believing the things you just stated.
Hate crimes like Jussie Smollett or what are we talking about here? The people who lit U Cal on fire because conservatives were going to give a speech at their school? Maybe the thousands of people who literally have meltdowns in public over seeing a hat? Maybe the high school kid harassed by the Indian guy and all the networks doxxing him and grown men and women making death threats against a minor who did nothing wrong? A group of girls in Texas went out with MAGA hats on, didn’t say a word to anybody, and were assaulted by random assholes, including male doormen?
There are hundreds if not thousands of these types incidents each and every day. I really can’t believe how one-sided your commentary is and the foolishness you’ve tricked yourself into believing...
*double checks username*.... oh wait, yes I can.
An actor is really the best you can do?
By adamg
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 6:07am
Really, in an age when blacks and Jews can't worship without worrying about getting slaughtered by unhinged right-wingers with heavy weaponry? Because only one side is running around with automatic weapons.
Adam responded to me!!!!
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:39am
I’ve been waiting since 2007 for this. Yes, an actor who made up a 100% bullshit story and had all charges dismissed due to connections to your lord and savior, Obama. Why would it matter that he’s an actor? The whole thing was a complete lie and all of you bought his BS hook, like, and sinker. I’m surprised why that situation gets a “that’s the best you can do”... I mentioned a number of other instances that you glossed over.
How about “Easter worshippers” as your idols Hillary and Obama so eloquently put it? Nice cherry pick though. I guess the rest of my examples don’t fit your narrative and now we’re onto gun control?
Gotta remain flexible on the UHub boards, you never know what direction it’ll go.
Adam...
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:26am
...we really need the block function.
Seriously, people like Dougie abound, their toxins are everywhere, and I'm sick of their crazy bullshit victim-blaming. If the only choice people have is to opt out of a platform where such poison is allowed, they'll take that option.
Once upon a time
By erik g
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:55am
I wrote a JS extension that would enforce a killfile on UHub. It was just for my own use, so it's ugly and requires you to update a config file to keep your list current, but it's better than reading the comments from Dougie and FISH
Thanks for your support, Erik
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:26am
I always get a kick out of your commentary too. It truly is a treat to come here and see the “tolerant left” hard at work. I appreciate each and everyone of you, bless your hearts.
Sweet!
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:28am
Are you willing to share?
Block function, really?
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:23am
You’re an embarrassment. Keep living in your echo chamber.
Right side = bad
Left side = good
Orange man = bad
You probably appreciate these college kids who went into a crying depression after the election and needed therapy dogs and coloring books. God help us all.
Translation
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:27am
Blah blah blah blah libtard blah blah snowflake blah blah participation trophy for t-ball blah blah what's wrong with this country blah blah blah.
Secondary translation
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:34am
Orange man bad, left good, right bad, racists, bigots, Islamophobes, misogynists, war on women, blah blah (draws from deck of cards) Russia, collusion, Obama king, Hillary Queen, free stuff, AOC, blah blah.
This was fun.
You gonna stroke out, dude?
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 12:05pm
People are concerned.
I’m not an unhinged leftist...
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 2:11pm
I do appreciate the concern though. You’re very kind.
You are an unhinged
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:07pm
Human being.
Emphasis "unhinged".
You know your "talking point" spew put us all past bingo long ago, though.
Oh brother......
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 6:49pm
You're something else - I really did miss you though.
I see...
By RozzieRT
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 8:35am
So it's propaganda when the media says things about the president , but when it's an actor you don't like, the things they say are totally, totally true. Got. It.
I never heard of the actor before this incident...
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:42am
I’ve never watched his show. I sure hope they figure out where these bleach wielding/noose carrying white racists are in the liberal stronghold of Chicago... milling about at 2am outside the local Subway shop. People should steer clear of that area until we get to the bottom of this.
Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt,
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:35am
as you clearly *are* defending this right-wing loser / psycho. Nice friends ya got there, asshole.
Ahh yes.. the words of the “tolerant left”
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:45am
I don’t know who brainwashed you... a combination of CNN/MSNBC or Hollywood wackos maybe? It’s a peculiar thing... maybe one day you’ll get your head out of your backside... we’ve been conversing on these board for a while though. I’m not holding out hope.
Always a pleasure, McSlim. Have a splendid day.
Here's a hint for you, defender of
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:52am
people who threaten murder, rape and cannibalism online. Opposing violence, hate and bigotry isn't intolerance: it's the opposite of intolerance. You can tear that one out of your scrapbook of simple-minded wingnut projection techniques.
No more name calling?
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:00am
Man, you definitely overdosed on the MSM/left wing kool aid. It’s worse than I thought. If only Russia hasn’t personally forced Trump into office, things would be all sunshine and rainbows.
Yeah, I'm digging this Kool-Aid that
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:10am
brainwashes me into thinking, "It's criminally wrong to make vicious threats of depraved violence to people online." But you're okay with that sort of thing. Not surprising, but thanks for outing yourself.
Just curious...
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 2:40pm
So you're not a fan of vicious threats of online violence, which I understand, but all of the incidents I mentioned earlier took place in real life and were not words on a computer screen. You conveniently didn't address any of them - maybe you were distracted being angry and calling me an asshole?
Are you really this biased? The question is rhetorical, of course, but in my mind real life violence is far far worse than fake/online violence.
To be honest, I barely skim
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:01pm
your posts. Life is too short to waste parsing the gibberings of rightie mouth-breathers. But it's hard to miss the part where you keep defending this rabid right-wing criminal.
When you renounce that bit of repugnant nonsense, you can come back and talk to me about your other projectionist wingnut hobbyhorses, like how it's really the libruls who are mounting all the hate crimes since Trump got elected. In the meantime, you and your bile-spewing comrade can fuck right off.
Interesting response....
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 6:56pm
So you make ridiculous points in your posts, someone refutes them (my initial reply wasn't even long), and you immediately dismiss it as the gibberings of a righty mouth-breather.
Nobody can cure your delusions except you - try opening up your mind a bit and stop listening to the maniacs on MSM all the time. Get outside the echo chamber, read other perspectives, you might be surprised what you find. I hate to break it to you - you're not always right, although all of you are 100% convinced you are.
I was planning to fuck right off anyway, so the joke's on you. Take it easy.
Whether you choose
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:23pm
to actually fuck off or not, you've already placed yourself firmly in the camp of a criminally hateful right-wing loon and slavering homophobe, someone whose own failure as a journalist presumably informs his pathetic loathing of a free press. Nobody really needs to read deeper into your positions than that.
The conclusions you arrive at are mystifying.
By Doug1001
Fri, 04/26/2019 - 1:23am
Good talk today overall - went really well I think.
You're doing
By MC Slim JB
Fri, 04/26/2019 - 8:56am
a swell impersonation of Trump: "I never said those things I am on tape as saying." Like your 3am post from yesterday.
I'd call you a funny little twerp, but you're really just an annoying, time-wasting little twerp.
Good talk....
By Doug1001
Fri, 04/26/2019 - 6:28pm
Compelling and rich, as usual
LOL
By erik g
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:16am
[img]https://external-preview.redd.it/SAPHiQLVDnl_7OGYG...
Yikes lot to unpack here
By spin_o_rama
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:53am
So he's unhinged about people talking to him online, cool.
But you were just defending someone that was unhinged instead of calling him a psychopath, cool cool.
Talk about self-aware wolves, cool cool cool.
Hows Qanon doing these days?
Not a lot to unpack, really
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:05am
It must be annoying for idiots like your favorite pundits to constantly cry collusion and twist every word into something to send the leftist sheep into a frenzy, although that doesn’t take much nowadays. I like that Trump returns their bullshit right back to them.
Your next comment makes no sense. It’s funny how you glossed over the many examples of unhinges leftism... do you need more or do those not qualify somehow? Oh wait, that’s just the powerful reasonable left “resisting” the (insert buzzword for low IQ leftists) that our president stands for....
Cool cool cool cool! So witty!
I don’t know what Q anon has to do with anything here. Can you believe Russia forced us to accept this president? Blasphemy I tell you!
Yeah, not much at all
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:15am
Not much to unpack between your ears, that is.
Bless your heart, Swirl
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:28am
Long time no talk. Hope you are well.
Then you must think the part of the Mueller
By whyaduck
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:32pm
Report where it was stated that Russia did have their sticky fingers all over the last election to be "fake news?" Ya, ok, that belief makes me think that you are incredibly naive and/or kindly see my following post.
Five minutes
By Sock_Puppet
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:14am
“jack asses who whine and cry and spew propaganda about him all day every day? Maybe he’s sick and tired of these lunatics not shutting the F up for 5 minutes.”
Yup, I wish Fox News would go off the air too.
CNN is killing it lately...
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:28am
Good talk
Ok, Dougie, is your blind hatred of anything "liberal"
By whyaduck
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:30pm
clouding your sense of good judgement?
I would be the first to say that the pension for some institutions of higher learning to not allow certain speakers on campus is not smart. Jussie is probably not well in the head, on some level, and is not representative of probably a good portion of those who do not think Trump is a good man or a good President.
Perhaps you think being a bully and a thug is cool and that excitement fills some sort of innate need of yours but the smug little shit that was in the "Indian guy"'s face was a smug little shit and what he did was wrong.
Some would say, Dougie, it is the "Age of the Asshole" which no one side could claim more of - there are plenty to go around for all sides.
So, best case, you are a troll that just loves to get the lefties riled up and gets really excited when they do since you can then smack them again. And again. Worst case, oh, I don't know, you are a mean SOB that has a real anger issue? I vote for the former and you can do better.
I wouldn't call it blind hatred
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 7:13pm
I don't think Trump is an angel nor have I ever said that. The fact is that everything he does, good or bad (is he capable of doing anything good in the left's eyes?) is a cause for concern or riles up lefties to say "we must resist" automatically.....I'm not sure anyone ever considers opposing viewpoints or facts. Can't quite wrap my head around it.
I don't think being a bully or thug is cool at all. If you're referring to the things Trump says in response to the constant outrage, I don't have an issue with it anymore. He cannot win with a certain segment of the population, gets attacked regardless of what his response is, so might as well give them what they want/expect.
The kid/Indian situation: the Indian beat a drum in the kid's face and he just stood there with an awkward smile on his face. He was probably scared shitless and didn't know what to do - standing quietly with an awkward look on one's face is a pretty common response. I don't know what else he should've done.
It is the Age of the Asshole - on both sides - completely agree.
It's not trolling by offering opposing viewpoints. I'm no more disrespectful/sarcastic to anyone on here than they are to me - I don't get offended nor has any communication ever riled me up in the slightest. Not sure where you see anger in anything I've ever written - on the contrary, I see it in the majority of the replies regarding politics.
First civil response I've seen in a while - it's appreciated.
As we all know
By anon
Fri, 04/26/2019 - 10:42am
Talking about how to best systematically commit murder, genocide, torture, "family separation" etc. in nice terms is the only civil way! And people who oppose those things are just being mean with their strong language and incivil, too!
Just like ...
Family separation....
By Doug1001
Fri, 04/26/2019 - 6:29pm
Was your buddy Obama. Remember when the MSM used a pic of 2016 to blame Trump for this? Good times.
Dunning-Kruger Dougie
By Old Groucho
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 7:13am
In full effect, y'all!
"your ilk"?
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:22am
So we've got MAGAts like this running around threatening to kill people and eat their faces....annnnd it's the people calling out the insanity of that who are delusional.
Right.
Seek help.
Please read the incidents I mentioned
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:32am
All of you gloss over them... doesn’t fit the narrative obviously.
My mental state is fine, but your concern is appreciated. We should find a way to cue the music from Curb your Enthusiasm whenever someone clicks on the comments section. You guys are great. Best of luck to you.
"the music from Curb your Enthusiasm"?
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 12:07pm
Can't say I'm familiar with it. It does seem to occupy a significant place in your universe though. Care to share?
Google it...
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 2:33pm
It's a pretty funny tune.....or maybe the theme from The Benny Hill Show? One or the other....they're both humorous.
Nah
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:08pm
It's your own personal obsessive soundtrack, Dougie -- let it stay where it's doing the most good, right between your ears, keeping company with the Instructions From On High written on the inside of your skull in letters of fire.
Those are good shows...
By Doug1001
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 7:15pm
If you're ever looking for entertaining programs to watch, those 2 are good. The obsessive remark was funny though.
Music from Curb...
By Doug1001
Fri, 05/03/2019 - 12:37pm
Stumbled upon this - figured you might enjoy it:
https://www.facebook.com/realCalebHull/videos/6457...
Mental illness is a bitch
By BiggerThanBoston
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 7:35pm
Only now there's a mass audience
We're doing "trigger warnings" now?
By Lunchbox
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 7:49pm
When did that start?
What's the criteria?
More importantly
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 7:56pm
What is the problem with it?
We're not all macho seen-it-all tough guys
By adamg
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 8:06pm
I realized that some people might want to decide beforehand whether to read certain things. What's wrong with that?
Hope this helps...
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:50am
When people decided to be considerate of others. I realize that was never part of some people's upbringing, but you can still learn.
Criteria, plural; criterion, singular. What ARE the criteria? To understand those you need to develop empathy, an awareness of others and a sense of perspective. If you have those things, you already know that hearing graphic descriptions of violence being perpetrated against someone by a psychotic is upsetting, and you act accordingly. If you need it explained to you, you're not there yet.
A modest proposal
By Roman
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 8:50pm
I'll condemn whackjobs sending poorly made explosives to, and threatening to feast on the livers of, people they disagree with.
And y'all condemn wannabe blackshirts taking bike locks to people they disagree with and rifles to congressmen whose party they voted against.
Gabby Giffords would like a word
By Old Groucho
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:14pm
Don't start this game, Roman.
Because if were keeping score, the violent right wing christo-fascists have a higher death count than do Muslims, Antifa, and The Clintons all put together.
Counterproposal
By erik g
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:17pm
You go write us 1000 words about who the blackshirts actually were and what causes they supported, citing something other than Breitbart and your own deranged recollection of ninth-grade history class.
Don't turn over rocks
By Roman
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:26pm
unless you want to see what's under them.
Is Jonathan Haidt OK to vote, or is he off limits for appearing on Joe Rogan?
https://www.thecoddling.com/
almost forgot about making
By berkleealum
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 7:07am
almost forgot about making cryptic references to obscure pseudo-lefty chuds who happen to agree with my abhorrent point of view!
-Also Roman, this time staring blankly out of his window, his copy of the latest Jonah Goldberg book half open in the breeze.
(rocking back and forth muttering to himself)
By Old Groucho
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 7:11am
"Liberal fascism is REAL!
Liberal fascism is REAL!
Liberal fascism is REAL!
Liberal fascism is REAL!
Liberal fascism is REAL!
Liberal fascism is REAL!"
Poor, Roman.
i’m going to bring up the
By berkleealum
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 7:00am
i’m going to bring up the same two examples every time there’s an instance of right-wing violence. that’ll show em!
- Roman
Matthew Haviland is crazy as a loon, if not crazier!
By mplo
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 11:54pm
It's against the law to make threats over the internet, just as it's against the law to make threatening or obscene phone calls to people, or doesn't Matthew Haviland know that? The law should get him under control before he really does kill somebody!
Thanks Miki
By eeka
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 6:15pm
The Confederate comparison is
By Deepfreeze
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 7:48am
The Confederate comparison is a new angle to me!
Really?
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:52am
It's not a long jump from the "Confederates were Democrats" bullshit, and I'm sure you've heard that.
The radicalization of America
By Gary C
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 8:23am
It started with Fox News and continues with CNN, MSNBC etc. People enter a certain echo chamber and hear the same thing, told a thousand ways, over and over again. When the teller decides to juice up the story a bit, the listener takes it all in as the truth.
This guy, who clearly has mental health issues, fell under Imam Fox and lost touch with reality. (Others fall into a similar haze at CNN.) God I miss Walter Cronkite.
The normalization on fascism.
By Old Groucho
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:26am
CNN is shallow garbage but your attempt to "both sides" this is embarrassing.
Liberal anger towards Dear Leader and his blatant ruination of this country by stoking ignorance, division, and hate can't hold a candle to the fevered rage induced by the 24/7 State Mandated Propaganda they call FOX News.
As the darling pipsqueak Ben Shapiro likes to say,
Facts dont care about your feelings.
So...
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:59am
...who or what on CNN can hang at the batshit-crazy level of Fox?
Probably no one
By Gary C
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 12:30pm
For my sanity, I don't really watch any cable news. My point is not so much that Fox and CNN are polar equivalents. In either case you are getting the news filtered through a conservative or liberal point-of-view.
Heh
By lbb
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:10pm
CNN ain't liberal.
This comment is idiotic
By anonx3
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 11:40am
Are you seriously trying to "both sides" this? I won't even ask you to show evidence to back up your "Fox = CNN" claim because we all know you don't have any, but what made you think that making this comment was a good idea?
(Personally I'd love it if people with mental health issues got inspired by CNN, because it would mean they'd spend every day just trying to get eight people to sit around a table, disagree with each other and never say anything new.)
If I didn't know better,
By tenguix
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:28pm
I'd say this Trumpista was feeling a bit ...
triggered.
Apparently one of the reasons that Haviland hates
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 4:45pm
journalists is that he himself is a failed journalist. In addition to sounding like a violent psycho, he's also a rabid homophobe.
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