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Stop & Shop lost $345 million from people stopping their shopping during the strike
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Good.
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They lost my money...
When the Employees had to restock the shelves. I was looking for 4 steaks, some veggies, greens and bread. Stop & Shop was closed that day.
The lost mine
The very first time I shopped at one of those horrid stores. Good lord, what an absolute crappy place to buy food.
But I don't get what you mean about
Who else would do it? The stupidass robot they have there?
Alternatives
The real damage is happening now. People discovered Wegmans and Market Basket where the stores are cleaner, the food is cheaper and the quality is higher. The unions have screwed themselves.
they should consider rebranding themselves...
Stop and Shop at Wegman's and Market Basket instead...
Speaking of
Whats the reason Market Basket never has opened a place in the city?
Property to costly to recoup in their normal time frames?
The Chelsea store is nice, but one on the south side of the city would be perfect. How about one in Dot? Or even in that new Edison Plant constructions going in?
FYI Mattapan
has ZERO supermarkets, unless you count America's Food Basket, which I don't.
Why not?
Never been to the Mattapan one, but the Hyde Park one is pretty supermarketish.
There's also Price Chopper on River Street, which, OK, may technically be 02136, but it's right on the line.
You mean Price Rite. Price
You mean Price Rite. Price Chopper is no where near Mattapan.
Star Market/Shaw's on River
Star Market/Shaw's on River St is in the 02126 zip code.
Agreed
I wouldn't count America's Food Basket either!
Low margins/ high volume
Incompatible with high rent / no parking
It might be the effect of the
It might be the effect of the environment for development in the tail end of the Menino years. Not much that was big got built unless a whole area could be cleared out.*
* Though several showing-their-age Stop&Shops got rebuilt.
I think Sock Puppet probably has a good point about profit margins. Market Basket probably could move into the old Bradlee's/NWL on Morissey - but is that corridor already saturated with Star Market, Lambert's and Stop&Shop? (Personally, I hope Lambert's owns the property or has a non-compete clause in the lease - keep any other (primarily) grocery store from moving in.
Why no Market Basket?
They have a specific business model that revolves around real estate. Artie T builds shopping centers (strip malls, to be specific,) puts a Market Basket in, and leases out the rest of the footage to other businesses. They key is the land. If he could get land at the right price, I could see Market Basket making a play, but where is there enough land for that big of a development?
As it is, in most of Boston, large scale grocery is built out. I could almost see him buying up the area on American Legion Highway where the McDonalds is, but we would be talking a large scale transformation.
I do think that, like others noted, Menino failed (slightly) when he was making his supermarket push in the 1990s and 2000s. It was great seeing Star Market and Stop and Shop either opening or expanding locations, but now we have dreams of Market Basket and Wegmans in the city. Never say never, though. If the right chunk of land came up, who know?
Makes sense + margins
That space along ALH is possible. Also when the Edison plant property goes in South Boston, there's plenty of room there with decent road and transit access for the seaport / southie / and Northern Dorchester (with plenty of options / need to expand transit there). West Station / Lower Allston also might have room, but those last two would require equitable agreements from the current property owners I guess.
Where Bradlees used to be on
Where Bradlees used to be on Morrissey Boulevard. They had a a discount store there and they have now since closed that one I believe the store is empty.
Not a lot of space for their business model
Yes, Market Basket could, in theory, put a store on that site, but they'd need to buy the Puritan Mall to make it worth their while.
Wegman's Cheaper?
Wegman's isn't cheaper, at least not for a cart of general staples. Their products are good quality and the staff well trained and helpful, but not cheaper for things like canned and dry goods.
I'd like to avoid S&S but Shaws/Star is far worse in almost every metric and there's no Market Basket nearby. Aldi is the cheapest by far but the quality and selection is varied.
Wegman’s is a labyrinth
Designed to entrap the unwary shopper.
The tactic of rapidly circling the perimeter veg-meat-dairy won’t help when items of the same type are dispersed randomly and frequently moved.
forbidden cheese section
The cheese and booze sections are off limits in my household.
i know, how dare they
try to scrape a few more bucks out of management for their members while those poor, struggling owners are trying to top off their Scrooge McDuck-sized vaults of cash.
you can get right outta here with that nonsense, pal
Wegman's has some wonderful
Wegman's has some wonderful stuff, but... - food cheaper? Not in the meat department.
Agreed
I take the 15 minute drive to Market Basket in Waltham. I used to go to the Stop and Shop in Dedham. I started going to the Shaws again on Spring St once it was revamped, but with all the traffic and construction in Dedham and WR, I can jump on 128 and be at MB in 15 minutes.
The biggest factors for me are the cleanliness, the prices and the fact you don't have to bag your own groceries. MB always has enough people working.
...bag man...
What's wrong with bagging your own groceries? You too important for that proletarian work?
*chef's kiss*
When the boot tastes just right
And they're losing more after
And they're losing more after that the strike, I'm sure. Hardly anyone at my local Stop and Shop anymore since the strike and since prices have all gone up because of the strike. Been going to the one in Jackson Square since the 1990s. Some of the employees have become my friends over the years and now they're complaining they're not busy enough because customers stopped going. Most people in the neighborhood now go to America's Food Basket, Save-a-Lot, Price Rite, and Market Basket.
Dedham Stop & Shop ...
Now seems as crowded as ever, but it's stocked with one of those stupid beeping robots, which annoys me to no end for a variety of reasons, especially now that they've added a mouth to the googly eyes; might as well just put a sign under that saying "Punch me!"
The S & S strike was a labor win.
So posters like this have to insist the business is now doomed. Reality is just an inconvenience.
Strike made me switch
Went to Wegmans in Medford for the first time while the Medford/Somerville Stop & Shops I went to out of habit were closed...the Wegmans experience is in a different league imo, and I have not been back to Stop & Shop.
Good
Pay your workers a living wage
Say it louder for the people in the back
!
Say it louder for...
The people who will lose their jobs if Stop & Shop keeps losing business in the long run.
It is not labor's job to
It is not labor's job to worry about the company's business prospects. That's the duty of the well-compensated businesspeople in the S&S corporate office, who should have foreseen the long-term risks of a work stoppage and done more to avoid it.
Listen up
You know what? Market Basket and Wegmans and Roche Bros all manage to pay their workers decently and treat them decently.
Stop and Shop needs to look to them if they want survival - which means LISTENING to the unions!
One problem
None of the supermarkets you mention are unionized, which kind of annoys me because I am a union guy. On the other hand, unions tend to come in when management is not doing right by their workers. I mean, the Market Basket people went on strike in support of the CEO- that's crazy.
Solidarity
The Market Basket labor action succeeded in part because the union workers would not make deliveries across the picket line.
give a little, take a little
Unions aren't needed when you don't treat your workers as a pesky cost / liability on your ledger sheet; but the investment / capital they are.
Market Basket, at least at this point, isn't about maximizing shareholder value at the cost of every other objective.