Gov. Charlie Baker today ordered a four-month ban on the sale of all vaping aerosol products for four months as public-health officials try to figure out what's making vapers sick, MassLive.com reports.
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We aren't really there yet on the Chinese oils though, are we?
By section77
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 11:21pm
Everyone is suddenly grasping onto this theory that black market oils are to blame for all of these cases, but that's much more of an internet rumor thing rather than an actual scientifically proven thing. It sounds like a good explanation, but let me know when someone other than bros on chat boards start talking about this.
The oils aren't black market per se
By tachometer
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 8:58pm
It's not that it's "Chinese oil" but rather that the vitamin E acetate seems to be linked to the acute lung ailments we're seeing, whether it is sourced from the US or China is irrelevant but it is a more common cutting agent in black market carts. That's part of why the street carts are cheaper, they cut the contents down so that there is less THC per unit volume but often use inexpensive agents like vitamin E acetate to do it. Is it safe to assume that The NY State Department of Health is not made up of "internet bros" in your book?
The more chronic pneumonia ailment seems to be more closely linked to vaping propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine which increases lipids in the lung tissue. Or is The Journal of Clinical Investigation also an "internet bro" in your book?
There are known links between these pneumonia type lung ailments and breathing in oils (search for the lung cases linked to a diacetyl production at a facility that made artificial butter flavoring as an example) so why would you dismiss a connection between them and the intentional inhaling of oils that have been heated to a vapor?
It's early in understanding what's going on and there are a ton of open questions about all of the things involved (e.g. flavorings, composition/construction of cartridges, etc.) but to dismiss the observed correlations as an "internet rumor" on your part is seriously misguided even if the hysteria is probably beyond the risk at this point in time.
I'm going to take my car and
By anon
Tue, 09/24/2019 - 5:13pm
I'm going to take my car and drive it to NH to buy lots vaping products.
I have to say this ...
By jmeltzer
Tue, 09/24/2019 - 7:03pm
Juul should not have hired Martha Coakley. :-)
Finally
By 617MoFoBecauseM...
Tue, 09/24/2019 - 7:14pm
Something 61seveners can unite on!!!
well...
By John-W
Tue, 09/24/2019 - 7:33pm
I guess it's easier than banning douchebags.
Who
By DotRat4Eva
Tue, 09/24/2019 - 8:32pm
Pray tell r u talking about on this comment feed? Hmmm?
Whatever happened to banning
By anon
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 10:05am
Whatever happened to banning flavoring? That ban makes a lot more sense.
Slippery Slope
By In The Know
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 11:23am
No matter what you think of vaping, when a senior elected official makes declarations like this, it sets the stage for a lot of push back from the people.
Consider Trumps declaration of a national emergency for his wall. Baker's declaration is in the same room.
A precautionary action
By Ron Newman
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 12:01pm
Is it that different from cancelling night-time outdoor activities (such as high school football, movies, and concerts) in towns where EEE-infected mosquitos have been found?
Not to sound too crazy
By cinnamngrl
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 9:32am
But this vaping health crisis is a good argument for federal legalization of weed. We need the resources for the FDA to properly study and regulate how weed is delivered to the body with different methods. Remember all the OD's from stupid people not understanding how eatables worked?
I'm a little taken aback by
By anon
Wed, 09/25/2019 - 2:29pm
I'm a little taken aback by the ignorant venemous defense of a corproate chemical company product that is making teenagers sick.
It's a dirty habit that is
By anon
Thu, 09/26/2019 - 7:20am
It's a dirty habit that is harming the lungs of otherwise healthy teens and adults. No 17 yr. old should be in the hospital for using a recreational product only for a few weeks. If you need a source: google it, watch local and/ or national news, pull your head out of the sand.
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